Kuwait & Bahrain both hostile to US troops

[Lancecastor]

It seems that the US Invaders aren't exactly getting a hero's welcome in Kuwait and Bahrain....it's going to be a long, lonely and dangerous 6 years to be an American until the USA gets rid of Bush2, I think...and this isn't even the end of the beginning:



U.S. 'attack plot' - Kuwaitis held
Monday, February 24, 2003 Posted: 12:35 PM EST (1735 GMT)

KUWAIT CITY (CNN) -- Three Kuwaitis have been arrested for allegedly planning attacks on U.S. troops, the Kuwaiti Interior Ministry said Monday.

The arrests follow a number of attacks on Americans in the country, where more than 100,000 members of the U.S. military are currently training for a possible U.S.-led strike on Iraq.

In January a civilian U.S. government contractor was killed in an ambush on a car near Camp Doha and another American citizen was seriously wounded.

On November 21, two U.S. soldiers were shot and wounded by a Kuwaiti policeman near Camp Doha, and on October 8, 2002, one U.S. Marine was killed and another wounded by extremists.

The investigation of the civilian contractor's murder led police to a number of alleged co-conspirators. Police recovered a cache of weapons including one rocket propelled grenade, four machine-guns, "several pistols" and a large quantity of ammunition.

Police said they determined that a number of other attacks against Americans had been planned.

In another Gulf state, Bahrain, last week authorities said they had broken up an alleged terrorist ring planning attacks in the kingdom -- home of the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet.

Five Bahraini men aged between 31 and 41 were arrested on charges of plotting terrorist acts against the island's "national interests and endangering the lives of innocent people," the official Bahrain News Agency (BNA) reported. Police also seized weapons and ammunition.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/24/sprj.irq.kuwait.arrests/

 

[phrodeau]

Read it again Lance, and try to comprehend.

The attackers and conspirators were operating outside the local law and were arrested. Weapons were confiscated by the local police.

To me, it seems Kuwait's and Bahrain's finest are doing their best to protect US troops from extremists. Doesn't sound very hostile to me.

 

[Sandia]

I'm hoping it will be two, dude.

Turkey is holding us up for six billion of US tax dollars, and wants to march (more) troops into Northern Iraq. Meanwhile the Kurds are gonna declare holy war on them if they do.

Amazingly, the Bush admin is still arguing we're there to protect countries like Turkey from Saddam.

 

[Lancecastor]

Oil will need to go to 50 usd/barrel to pay off all the bribes to Spain, Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait,etc for the hostile takeover of Iraq.

Hmmmm.....maybe the USA should go IPO on NASDAQ....

 

[Don K Dyck]

Hmmmm . . . sounds like the locals could be taking an extreme dislike to collaborators with the AmeriKKKans . . . was that a Bahraini local who contracted to the U$ or a civilian American stationed in Bahrain who contracted with the U$ . . .

In Somalia, a crowd of poorly armed locals surrounded a U$ patrol and disarmed them before inflicting casualties . . .

Still, I guess it will be a it easier in Iraq where over 50% of the civilian population is children . . . the "enemy" that they have come to "liberate" from their oil reserves will be 50% kids wearing un-AmeriKKKan clothes and like the Negroes and Latinoes at home, willl have different skin colour to make it much easier to see . . .

 

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[Lancecastor]

I'm hoping it will be two, dude.

Turkey is holding us up for six billion of US tax dollars, and wants to march (more) troops into Northern Iraq. Meanwhile the Kurds are gonna declare holy war on them if they do.

Amazingly, the Bush admin is still arguing we're there to protect countries like Turkey from Saddam.

I wonder what the total is... if you add up the Invasion costs plus the US bribe...er aid packages from the USA to Turkey, Spain, Qatar, Kumait plus the cost to the UN and RedCross to assist the millions of refugees the US Attack will cause ?

Will it cost more than the oil reserves' value?

Who cares!?

The USA should always appoint its Presidents from now on, especially when they lose the popular vote!

That whole "democracy" and "home of the free" pap was ready for a revamp anyway....this whole US Starring As Rogue State thing makes for Must See TV!

 

[Don K Dyck]

Geezes, Don.

Can't you ever just TRY to make a point without all the 12 year old crap?

How about you look around your own backyard? America has certainly not cornered the market on bigotry and racism. I've seen plenty of Australians pat themselves on the back for theirs.

I'm glad you find amusement in the body of a dead man being dragged through the street by a mob of partisans who have no compunction about letting their compatriot women and children starve to death. That really says a lot for you. Lioness

Hi lioness . . . White Oz certainly has a Black history . . . and the "Oz white establishment" is doing everything it can with the assistance of the High Court to ensure that Indigenous Australians are kept in their place at the bottom of the heap, following the model pursued since the Federation Conferences of the 1890s by Isaacs who became CJ and disenfranchised Indigenous people in 1905 until a referendum of the Oz people in 1967 gave 93% support for Indigenous rights.

The points I have made consistently on Lit are -

1. the U$-Iraq Imperialist War for Control of Undeveloped Middle East Oil Reserves is an economic war for the benefit of greedy U$ oil executives;

2. economic oil reserves in continental U$ are nearly depleted and Alaskan oil will cost over $US 6 per barrel to produce. By comparison, Iraq oil reserves will supply the wasteful U$ market for about 40 years at a production cost of less than one dollar per barrel;

3. the Tx oil corporations believe that they have a God-given right to possess anything they require or want, based on their own form of Fundamentalist Christianity;

4. there is no concern in the U$ about North Korea re-starting their nuclear programme because there are no oil reserves in that country;

5. there is only concern that the U$ Occupation Government in Iraq gets control of the oil reserves and transfers that control to the U$ oil corporations to the exclusion of other corporations, especially French, Russian and Chinese corporations who have signed agreements for development of 112 billion barrels of proven oil resources with the Saddam Hussein legitimate government of Iraq;

6. the present hysterical position of the U$ is a lie because Rwanda and other atrocities have been allowed to happen without comment by America;

7. the Saddam Hussein government is unable to throw a stone at anybody, let alone the U$ located thousands of miles away - there is only American xenophobia being fuelled by a mob media compliant with government propaganda;

8. Israel has made more breaches of UN Resolutions than just about any other country but as the biggest market for U$ arms that is OK.

 

[Lancecastor]

The Kuwait attacks on American forces massing north of Kuwait city is a news item here in Canada today.

1/3 of the country is off limits now to Kuwaitis so the American Army can gather there unmolested.

Kuwait's people are against this attack on Iraq.
Nobody has been charged or named in this latest attack on Americans.

But these unknown people are being described as "terrorists" by the government of Kuwait, who are otherwise tight-lipped as they take the US Cash for lending 1/3 of their country to stage an illegal invasion.

Nice work, if you can get it.... George H Bush rides again under cover of his idiot son as appointed by George H's judge pals after buying the "election" in Jeb's turf.

Nice.

 

[Problem Child]

....Negroes and Latinoes at home, willl have different skin colour to make it much easier to see . . .

"Negroes and Latinoes?" Do you Aussies refer to your aborigine population as "nee-groes", Don?

We stopped doing that about 70 years ago.

*singing* "You say Lati-noe, I say poh-tah-toe..."

 

[REDWAVE]

The real worry

No doubt, attacks on U.S. troops, and to some extent even American civilians, overseas will increase. But the real worry for government strategists is that U.S. client states in the Arabic and Muslim world, such as the autocratic regime of the Emir of Kuwait, will be overthrown.

Two, three, many Irans.

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: The real worry

No doubt, attacks on U.S. troops, and to some extent even American civilians, overseas will increase. But the real worry for government strategists is that U.S. client states in the Arabic and Muslim world, such as the autocratic regime of the Emir of Kuwait, will be overthrown.

Two, three, many Irans.

The problem is these Oil Execs running the USA see this as a corprate merger...sure, some jobs will be made redundant in the running of little "countries", but once Israel II integrates the arab countries into a larger Business Unit, there will be wonderful operating efficiencies and enhanced shareholder...er citizen values achieved.

 

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[Don K Dyck]

preamble: I've seen you discuss Aborginal history before, and I applaud you for this. However, I'm talking about 2003, not 1905. I've been hanging with Australians for 3 years online, and I've seen my share of racism and bigotry and backslapping about it. Admitting it happened historically in your country does nothing to alleviate the fact that it still happens today. All that does is provide a safe haven for denial, same as you accuse us of having.

You may be surprised to learn that I've actually listened to you and others and made some evaluations of my country based on the benefit of outside observations.

1. I agree that oil fuels American aggression right along with our automobiles. I also see that Saddam Hussein commits atrocities and rules his people with terror. I don't see you issuing a hue and cry about that.

How Saddam Hussein rules Iraq is their business. I don't make a hue and cry over the racist policies of executing AfroAmericans in Texas either.

2. I'll have to take your word for this. Sounds plausible to me. Ohhh, lol, on the news right this second is a report that the current per barrel price adjusted for inflation makes gas cheaper than it was during the oil crises of the late seventies and early eighties, and the deleterious effect on our economy by rising gasoline prices has been modified now by huge improvements in gas mileage and home heating since that time.

3. That's dumb. The dollar is their God. Religious extremists use their religion to mask their grabs for power. I think the same could be said of Islamic terrorists.

. . . and like the Blues brothers before him, the alcoholic-in-remission is on a mission from God . . .

4. There's plenty of concern about North Korea. They have nucs capable of reaching California. So what are you saying? You're unhappy that we're not making war over there yet? Are you more geniunely interested in world peace or in finding fault with America?

If world peace was the REAL issue of 2002-2003 then the re-activating of nuclear reactors in North Korea would be of greater concern to the U$ government than Saddam Hussein, who has been sitting there quietly minding his own business just as the U$ Daddy Bush Administration left him in 1991 . . . oh, and with enough helicopter gunships to kill off anything that moved among the Kurds and Marsh Arabs . . . thanks Norman Swartzkopff . . .

5. I agree with part one of your sentence. We're not so naive. As to part two? You really dig Saddam, doncha? Never a bad word about him, when he's committed crimes against humanity for 30 years.

Why would I complain about the street thug put in place by the CIA as a U$ puppet ruler? Like Gaddaffi and other dictators that the U$ has established he will be removed when the U$ is good and ready . . .

6. More selective reading on your part. As much as you wish you did, you don't have your finger on the pulse of American sentiment or discussion.

I don't and have never claimed to have a finger on the pulse of the U$ . . . it is much too boring . . . but I do make judgements based on the media blitz that western countries are subjected to by the U$ mob media including Oz borne Rupert Murdoch

7. Uh huh. That's why there's such a trail of death in Saddam's wake.

Yes . . . and there was a trail of aussie dead leading away from Vietnam too

8. Yes yes yes, hypocrisy is alive and well in the US of A. I've said before that we need to think out of the box, but I have to bow to the notion that you have more information concerning this point than I do. I'd like to see you debate these points with Hanns, who's provided many many links and interesting information about Israel's motivations. What I take from it is that taking violent stands have led only to increasing violence. It hasn't worked for Israel and I doubt it's going to work for the US in the long run.

The importance of U$ hypocrisy on Israel is that the U$ wants to play favourites for its own advantage and to hell with everybody else. If breaches of UN Resolutions are SO important then when will the U$ condemn Israel . . . never!! . . . because Israel provides an almost unlimited arms market for the NE military-industrial complex.

Thank you for not sticking KKK in America in your reply.

An oversight

Lioness [/B]

 

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[Lancecastor]

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The problem is that a lot of Americans are really concerned about other situations in foreign affairs as well, and when the powerful use these things to tweak our national conscience, it's difficult to draw the line between right and wrong.

The powerful aren't tweaking your national conscience...they've bought it.

Now they simply send y'all a list of chants to spout off...."WMD! Supporter of Terrorism! Crazed madman!"

It reminds me of McCarthyism.

With a declining Voter Turnout for elections and the precedent of being Appointed President of the USA now in place...I don't see this as the USA's Finest Hour.

The real problem is....a man you never elected and his cronies, who used to work for his daddy and nobody ever elected to anything...are making decisions that will affect all of us.

That's the scary shit...how'd you guys let this coup take place???

 

[Don K Dyck]

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Testy this evening?

S'okay, I know where you lost it.

Here's a smiley

Oh, and if you have a quick second, I'd love to know the easiest way to cut open a mango. I bought one, and ended up having to slice it into sections (rather awkwardly). Fond regards, Lioness

Ahhhhh . . . mangoes!! As Crysede knows there is really only one way to eat a mango . . .

1. Stand mango on "edge" with stalk towards you. The seed is quite large and somewhere about 1/2 inch wide, depending on the size of the mango.

2. Take a sharp knife, preferably a carving knife or such and slice the left side off the seed. A straight cut downwards is best.

3. Go to the remaining side and slice downwards to get the right side off the seed. Set the seed to one side, it should not be wasted.

4. Hold the mango side in the palm of your hand and with a sharp knife CAREFULLY score through the flesh BUT NOT THROUGH THE SKIN. Ideally a pattern of squares with sides about 1/2 inch is best.

5. Holding the mango with the thumbs in the middle centre of the skin side, flick the mango side to an inside out position . . . so that the scored squares stand out away from the inverted skin.

6. Eat sloooooooooowly . . . . . . . and savour every morsel of this delicacy from heaven . . .

7. Repeat steps 4, 5, 6 with the other side.

8. DO NOT FORGET THE SEED!!! Cut each side of the stalk and remove it. Peel the skin away from the flesh taking care NOT to lose too much of the delicacy. Eat around the seed to get every last tiny smidgeon of this simply magical fruit of the Gods . . . enjoy immensely . . .

9. Wipe face before going anywhere.

 

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[Don K Dyck]

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Ohhhhh, you just jogged my memory! I'd forgotten that it's served in little squares, thank you.

I wish I were over in your neck of the woods and I could get a really fresh one. It's sort of like when I dated a boy from Greece when I was 19 years old. He introduced me to fresh figs, which I'd never seen before. They're huge and unbelievably delicious.

Haven't had one since. Fresh figs, that is. L.

Bought a house from a Greek Cypriot once . . . it had about seven fig trees . . . yum!!! Have been buying mangoes by the tray at about a dollar each for the last three months . . . we even have Greek boys . . . you should cum down under Lioness . . . Melbourne is the biggest Greek city outside of Athens . . .

 

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