Kitty And I Are Angry--Do We Have A Right To Be?

BiBunny

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I'm sorry I've posted so many threads in the last few days, but this one is a rant, pure and simple. It's probably going to be extremely long as well, so if you aren't in the mood for a long Bunny rant, you can go ahead and back away now. ;)

Kitty and I live in a small apartment complex. It has two buildings and four one-bedroom apartments in each building. She lives on the end of one of the buildings, and I live next door to her. They aren't huge apartments, but they're cheap and nice enough for the money. (And we're broke-ass college students!)

Our friend, L. lived in a bigger 3-bedroom complex across town. She has known for 3 months that her lease ended on July 31st and that she would have to move. She has been trying to get Kitty and me to rent a house with her, but she's notorious for not paying her bills on time (and Kitty and I are both anal-retentive about getting bills paid when they're due), so we KNEW we'd get screwed if we went along with this scheme, not to mention the fact that Kitty's the only one with a job at the moment.

Ok, L. spent over a week in Indianapolis with her dorkwad of a boyfriend right before she had to move. We've been trying to steer her in the direction of some subleases, but no such luck. "If y'all can't get a house with me, I'll just move in with one of y'all," she says. Great.

So, after screwing around in Indy when she needed to be looking for a place to live, or at least packing her shit up to move, she came home and asked if I could get my father's pickup truck to help her move. Like a good friend, I said yes. Daddy's a long-distance truck driver. He drives his pickup truck to the plant, which is about 30 miles or so away from here, and then gets in the big truck. I called him, and he said it'd be fine for me to go get the truck, as long as I had it back by today because he'd be back today and would need it to get home. No problem, right?

Sunday, Kitty and I make the 60-mile round-trip to get the truck. L.'s boyfriend was down from Indy to "help her move." He's a 19-year-old prick who needs to grow the fuck up in my opinion. While we were trying to move shit, he was in her apartment playing VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, we moved her furniture from her apartment to a storage unit she'd rented. After that, she promised us she had it covered and that we could just come back Monday and help her move the rest of her stuff.

Monday, the 30th, rolled around, and she text-messaged me, wanting help. I assumed she already had everything boxed up and ready to go and was just wanting Kitty and me to help her load the stuff up on the back of the truck. When I got to her place, NOTHING had been done. Kitty and I spent all of Monday helping her pack stuff in boxes. I came home to cook supper, and Kitty loaded the entire back of the truck BY HERSELF because L. didn't even offer to help. Needless to say, we were getting pissed.

Kitty and I both went to bed early Monday night because we were exhausted. L. text-messaged us at 1:30 AM (woke us up) and asked if we'd finish her moving for her tomorrow, so she could go on vacation with her family in Tennessee! :mad: Kitty told her there was no way we could do it. We didn't take this girl to raise, anyway.

Yesterday, the 31st, we went back over to help her finish moving. She had all her stuff packed this time, but was rushing us along because she had to "go out for a little while." We thought she had something important to do, so we got all her stuff moved out for her. I was exhausted when we finally got back to mine and Kitty's places, and L. hadn't done much in the way of helping, so I didn't feel too guilty about letting her unload her shit herself. Of course, now all her damn boxes have my living room stuffed to the gills. :rolleyes: I can't turn around without falling over something that she really doesn't need, anyway.

I made several comments about how I needed to put gas in Daddy's truck to take it back to him. I borrowed it with a half a tank of gas in it, so I was going to give it back with a half a tank in it. That's just how I was raised. If you borrow something, you give it back just like you found it. Of course, I was offered no money for gas, even though we'd probably driven the damn truck 150 miles or so. But I sucked it up and put $30 worth of gas in it (money I didn't really have, mind you) and took it back. Today, I had to put gas in my car, too, because I wasted what little was left in it going to get the truck and coming back.

L. kept on about how she didn't have money, and then she disappeared on us. Turns out, she'd met her goofy boyfriend about 2 hours north of here. Furthermore, she brought him BACK to Kitty's place early this morning (Kitty discovered this when she almost fell over him while getting ready to go to work) without even asking! To add insult to injury, Kitty saw them turning into one of the nicer restaurants in town when she was going to take her final for her summer class earlier! So much for not having money, huh? :mad:

So, yeah, I'm about to come unstuck on this girl. I don't know if I have the right to be angry or not, but I am. I feel like I've been used and taken advantage of. She'll probably live here until she graduates now, cramping up our already tiny places with her stuff, just because she thinks she won't have to pay rent or anything. She didn't even offer me gas money for that big, gas-guzzling truck, for God's sake! I wasn't about to take it back to Daddy with the tank empty. And then to make us hurry up and finish her moving so she could sneak off and see her boyfriend! We're pissed. Maybe we don't have the right to be, but we are.

Ok, I think I'm finished. I mostly just wanted to vent, but if anybody's got some suggestions, feel free to tell me. L. is my friend, and I don't want to make her angry at me, but I don't like being taken advantage of, either. I want her boyfriend gone, too. Kitty and I have decided that the reason L., who's 23 like me, dates this 19-year-old loser is that they're on the same maturity level. :rolleyes: Can anybody help me at all? If something doesn't give soon, I know I'm going to lose my temper, and I really, really don't want to do that. :mad:
 
You have a right to be angry!

Sit her down tonight and lay out the rules to her... how much her part of the rent is, when it's due, how food will be bought and eaten, her responsibility for any coasts incurred by her friends... everything you expect of her... and here's the most important part! Tell her if she doesn't live up to her end of the deal, she and her possessions will be out on the curb upon her breaking the deal.

It wouldn't hurt to get it all in writing and have her sign it.
 
Sweetie, she took advantage of you because you allowed her to... I take it miss princess and her stuff is living with y'all now?
 
Yang4yin said:
You have a right to be angry!

Sit her down tonight and lay out the rules to her... how much her part of the rent is, when it's due, how food will be bought and eaten, her responsibility for any coasts incurred by her friends... everything you expect of her... and here's the most important part! Tell her if she doesn't live up to her end of the deal, she and her possessions will be out on the curb upon her breaking the deal.

It wouldn't hurt to get it all in writing and have her sign it.

Thanks, Yang. I was afraid we were over-reacting. She just came over here a second ago and asked if I was hungry. She's cooking for herself and dipshit boyfriend with Kitty's food, bought with Kitty's foodstamps. How nice. :rolleyes:

Kitty's taking her final right now, but she and I are going to talk when she gets home. Like Kitty said, L. thinks she won't have to pay any bills and that all our food will be bought with Kitty's foodstamps. Hardly fair, in my opinion. I know she won't hold up her end of the bargain, even if we write it down on paper, but at least that'll give us some leverage when we have to get her out. Hell, both mine and Kitty's leases are for one person only, so we could get in trouble if our landlady finds out we're harboring L. here. :rolleyes:
 
CutieMouse said:
Sweetie, she took advantage of you because you allowed her to... I take it miss princess and her stuff is living with y'all now?

Oh, yes. *Bangs head against the wall* Her ka-jillion boxes of stuff are in my living room, and she's sleeping at Kitty's.

I have GOT to stop being so nice to people. I really do. I just expect people to treat me as I'd treat them, and I should really know better by now, shouldn't I? :confused:
 
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BiBunny said:
Hell, both mine and Kitty's leases are for one person only, so we could get in trouble if our landlady finds out we're harboring L. here. :rolleyes:

There's your way out! Tell her she can't stay longer than "X-number" of days or you'll both be out on the streets.
 
GET IT IN WRITING!! Being that you are the only one on the lease will help, but I don't know the laws in your neck of the woods so you will want to get something in writing. Yang is right sit her down tell her what is expected of her and treat her like the child that she is acting like.
I have been in this situation the only difference was is that she was my 17 year old knbocked up sister. Lay down the law girl now before she takes advantage of you anymore!!!
 
northwoods_sub said:
she was my 17 year old knbocked up sister.
Oh, I hate it when sisters get knbocked up! ;)

You'll need her signature and several copies when you appear on "Judge Brown" on TV.

Seriously, show her your 1-person lease and make sure she knows she can't stay! (Get her acknowledgement in writing.)
 
The cheeky bitch is taking the piss.

Next time she leaves, throw all her stuff out so she finds it out the front when she returns.

End of problem.
 
You absolutely have a right to be angry for you have just been manipulated into jumping through hoops you don't like for a person who means relatively little to you. It's rarely easy to lay down the law to someone you count as a friend, but this young woman sounds like a class A manipulator. She will make your life miserable for as long as you allow it.

So the question is: how are you going to lay down the law? And more importantly, how are you going to administer it? She may well nod her head and agree to every stipulation you make. She may even happily sign an agreement to terms of living together. But since she's had some success is weaseling her way from you and Kitty without any negative consequences, she no doubt figures that you will continue to enable her.

Perhaps she needs to become acquainted with your dommy side. A good flogging, if only in a figurative sense, might be just what she needs.
 
Yang4yin said:
Oh, I hate it when sisters get knbocked up! ;)

You'll need her signature and several copies when you appear on "Judge Brown" on TV.

Seriously, show her your 1-person lease and make sure she knows she can't stay! (Get her acknowledgement in writing.)

Okay so my typing got a little sloppy, I was just so excited at the time I had no control!!! ;)
 
midwestyankee said:
Perhaps she needs to become acquainted with your dommy side. A good flogging, if only in a figurative sense, might be just what she needs.
I think a good caning, if only in a figurative sense, is more like it.
 
Girls, you need to smarten up, harden up, and move her out today....not tomorrow, next week, or next month but now...and check everything before she takes it to make sure she hasn't taken any of your things. Text her, tell her to get her arse back to your place and move it on out, NOW. Don't listen to her story if she says she can't because she has nowhere to go...she has a storage space, and as you now know, she has lied about not having money and basically let you finance her move for her....let her bf take care of putting a roof over her head, it is not your responsibility. I would also change your locks so she can not get back in....don't trust her to hand you back the only ste of keys she has to your place...people like this usually make sure they have another copy you don't know about.

If she refuses to leave, tell her she can find her belongings in the street, or sent to a charity outlet, by a certain time. That usually works miracles with people who are willing to live off you as long as they believe you will allow it, and you have to now. She knew you would long ago and that is why she did this to you, she knew you would just be swept along with her staged chaos.

Catalina :catroar:
 
You have an out.

Just say you got a letter from the landlady or something.

Egad.
 
We were smart enough not to give her a set of keys, thank God. I don't think she's so much a thief as just an irresponsible freeloader.
 
Netzach said:
You have an out.

Just say you got a letter from the landlady or something.

Egad.

A-yep. I'm in the process of writing one and mailing it to ourselves. ;)
 
What Cat said - She has like 24 hours to get her ass out. If she has a boyfriend, she has a place to stay. I didn't see anywhere in your story that you actually AGREED to let her stay for any length of time - just that she orchestrated things so that there "wasn't anyplace else to go."
 
BiBunny said:
A-yep. I'm in the process of writing one and mailing it to ourselves. ;)

You ARE a smart chica if a little overnice in this case.
 
CutieMouse said:
What Cat said - She has like 24 hours to get her ass out. If she has a boyfriend, she has a place to stay. I didn't see anywhere in your story that you actually AGREED to let her stay for any length of time - just that she orchestrated things so that there "wasn't anyplace else to go."

LOL, you are so generous.....I was thinking more like 2 hours maximum!! 24 hours leaves too much time for too much drama and tension, not to mention planning to steal or manipulate or beg. :D

Catalina :catroar:
 
catalina_francisco said:
LOL, you are so generous.....I was thinking more like 2 hours maximum!! 24 hours leaves too much time for too much drama and tension, not to mention planning to steal or manipulate or beg. :D

Catalina :catroar:


Well... it's dinnertime there now, which means they'll have to sleep at some point, which means that 8-10 of the 24 hours will be semi-painless, and they can wake up tomorrow and put all the boxes out on the curb first thing in teh morning, since they'll have stuff to do, in the afternoon, and she'll have to be out by 6 (when the 24 hours is up)... and stuff.
 
CutieMouse said:
What Cat said - She has like 24 hours to get her ass out. If she has a boyfriend, she has a place to stay. I didn't see anywhere in your story that you actually AGREED to let her stay for any length of time - just that she orchestrated things so that there "wasn't anyplace else to go."

We told her we'd let her if she couldn't find anything else, which, to us, implied that she actually had to LOOK for another place. She just moved here yesterday, and the boyfriend's going back to Indy, but she may just have to go home to mama. Tough shit. The last time Kitty and I moved, we had to do it all by ourselves.
 
CutieMouse said:
Well... it's dinnertime there now, which means they'll have to sleep at some point, which means that 8-10 of the 24 hours will be semi-painless, and they can wake up tomorrow and put all the boxes out on the curb first thing in teh morning, since they'll have stuff to do, in the afternoon, and she'll have to be out by 6 (when the 24 hours is up)... and stuff.

Hmmm, she mightn't sleep though and maybe gone with some more of their stuff when they wake...lol, can tell I am a real trusting soul in these type situations, huh?!! :D

Catalina :catroar:
 
I would definately get "unstuck on this girl". Do what ever you can to remove her... people like this are just so draining in EVERY way.
 
BiBunny said:
We told her we'd let her if she couldn't find anything else, which, to us, implied that she actually had to LOOK for another place. She just moved here yesterday, and the boyfriend's going back to Indy, but she may just have to go home to mama. Tough shit. The last time Kitty and I moved, we had to do it all by ourselves.

Never jeopardise the roof over your head for someone else BB....if you have a 1 person lease, that gets you out of even being considered for these situations. I know it seems hard, but I have learned the hard way that there are far too meny people who are willing to let you pick up their problems without a second thought for the risks and costs it might bring upon you. The worst part is most of them believe it is their right and your responsibility and will make you feel like a heel if you don't but not be anywhere to be found when you are in a similar situation.

Catalina :catroar:
 
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