Kinky is NOT a Diagnosis

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Thanks to the efforts of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom as well as American Psychiatric Association, we now have validation that kinky is not a diagnosis.

In the new proposals for the DSM-V, alternative sexual behavior has been depathologized. The American Psychiatric Association's Paraphilias Subworkgroup's DSM revisions acknowledge that you can be a fetishist, transvestite, sexual sadist or sexual masochist without having a mental disorder.

NCSF has worked very hard with its DSM Revision Project to make sure these changes take place, and will continue to strongly advocate for clear language of what exactly constitutes a mental disorder. Susan Wright liaisoned with the work group and supplied data that NCSF has gathered about the real-world discrimination and persecution that takes place against BDSM-fetish practitioners because of the DSM-IV-TR. The DSM Revision Petition was also extremely useful in generating comment from community members and mental health professionals urging that the current diagnoses be changed.

To see the proposed changes, go to:

http://www.dsm.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/SexualandGenderIdentityDisorders.aspx

Read the "Rationale" section under each diagnosis to see their thinking on the paraphilias. The work group makes it clear that "non-normative" sexual behavior is practiced by healthy people:

"The first broad change follows from our consensus that paraphilias are not ipso facto psychiatric disorders. We are proposing that the DSM-V make a distinction between paraphilias and paraphilic disorders. A paraphilia by itself would not automatically justify or require psychiatric intervention. A paraphilic disorder is a paraphilia that causes distress or impairment to the individual or harm to others. One would ascertain a paraphilia (according to the nature of the urges, fantasies, or behaviors) but diagnose a paraphilic disorder (on the basis of distress and impairment). In this conception, having a paraphilia would be a necessary but not a sufficient condition for having a paraphilic disorder."

"These revisions will affect everything-child custody, job discrimination battles, and even help change the way society views us," says Leigha Fleming, Chairperson and Director of Incident Response. "I think of all the people over the years who have had the DSM used as a tool of discrimination and punishment, and I'm proud of NCSF for continuing the fight to change it. This is the first step towards decriminalization of BDSM, which NCSF is pursuing with our Consent Counts project."

The Paraphilias Subworkgroup is now reconsidering what constitutes "clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning" when determining a mental disorder. The DSM must make it clear that people do suffer distress and impairment because of the societal stigma against alternative sex, but that doesn't mean they are suffering distress that is generated internally.

As part of the development process, the preliminary draft revisions to the current diagnostic criteria for psychiatric diagnoses are now available for public review and comment until April. Personal comments about discrimination and persecution are welcome additions to this commentary to continue to urge the work group to differentiate between sexual minorities and sex offenders.

Just as Norway recently joined Sweden and Denmark in removing consensual paraphilias entirely, NCSF continues to urge the complete removal of these paraphilias from the DSM. However like the incremental removal of homosexuality (to egodystonic homosexuality and then finally taken out in 1987) this is an important step for the BDSM-leather-fetish community.
 
Sweet. Now when I go see my hot psychiatrist next month I can admit my fantasies about her without being put in the ward.

:cool:
 
This news is going to blow some people's heads right off their shoulders. I'm getting the popcorn ready right now. :D
 
Thanks to the efforts of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom as well as American Psychiatric Association, we now have validation that kinky is not a diagnosis.

In the new proposals for the DSM-V, alternative sexual behavior has been depathologized. The American Psychiatric Association's Paraphilias Subworkgroup's DSM revisions acknowledge that you can be a fetishist, transvestite, sexual sadist or sexual masochist without having a mental disorder.
Does this mean I'm gonna lose my prescription for Adivan? :eek::eek::eek:

:mad: Curse you National Coalition for Sexual Freedom!
 
They can vote you however they want you; its all political. But let the word get out about your kink and the papers will crucify you....especially if youre a teacher or politician.
 
They can vote you however they want you; its all political. But let the word get out about your kink and the papers will crucify you....especially if youre a teacher or politician.
Well, sure, because social phobias don't go away in the face of better data.

But-- why spend so much time warning people? You ought to keep quiet, so that you can rejoice in the misery that happens when people get tar and feathered for being so disgusting.
 
Just because sadomasochism and exhibitionism are no longer classified alongside pedophilia in the clinic doesn't mean that the practitioners are engaging in healthy, neo-normative behaviours.

Paraphilia and the clinicians who go by the DSM Bible are still stuck doing 1960s psychiatry. The category of fetish practice or the fetish item itself should have little to do with the analysis of a personal obsession and/or the resultant self-destructive behaviour. Items and exposure to new practices don't make for sexual deviants or obsessives. The Internet hasn't created pedophiles or submissives.

There's the person who can't function in society because of obsession, and then there's the variable choice obsessions. Categorizing the choice obsessions as especially dangerous or harmful is really a pedantic game for those who live under piles of diagnostic manuals.

"There has been a subsequent shift in emphasis from direct, openly paternalistic and collective forms of organizational intervention towards more subtle techniques which target the health status of the working body. Instead of the designated Fordist inspectors visiting the homes of workers to monitor compliance with puritanical discourses, contemporary medicalised notions of organizational wellness appear to constitute each worker as his or her own inspector." -Just replace "worker" and "working body" with "sexual deviant".
 
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Sweet. Now when I go see my hot psychiatrist next month I can admit my fantasies about her without being put in the ward.

:cool:

Run of the mill transference or...

Does this mean I'm gonna lose my prescription for Adivan? :eek::eek::eek:

:mad: Curse you National Coalition for Sexual Freedom!

Yeah, I figure big pharm ran the figures and the money's not in this area.

but at least you aren't homosexual and aspergers!

You won't be either if the DSM-V goes through the way it is now a la VM's report.
 
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The link is not available just now. I certainly hope they don't consider pedophilia to be within the bounds of normal sex. :eek:
 
Run of the mill transference or...

I don't fantasize about her, but she is ridiculously attractive, especially when you line her up next to some of the other health care professionals I've met over the years.
 
But at the same time they've decided that Asperger's is autism. :mad: Bosh, I say.

Bear,

From my understanding Asperger's is actually going by the wayside according to the AAS. This means, for good or bad, those kids will just be labeled "odd" by their peers again.
 
The link is not available just now. I certainly hope they don't consider pedophilia to be within the bounds of normal sex. :eek:

Which is the definition between paraphilia and paraphilia disorder. When it brings harm to the person or others it becomes a disorder (paraphrasing).
 
Bear,

From my understanding Asperger's is actually going by the wayside according to the AAS. This means, for good or bad, those kids will just be labeled "odd" by their peers again.
Well, it is an umbrella term fir a whole host of behavioral and perceptual dysfunctions, which can exist in various combos and intensities-- so, I can see that. But the kids 'll be labelled more precisely, not returned to a non-diagnosis.
 
Well, it is an umbrella term fir a whole host of behavioral and perceptual dysfunctions, which can exist in various combos and intensities-- so, I can see that. But the kids 'll be labelled more precisely, not returned to a non-diagnosis.

May have to disagree with that... From my understanding they are eliminating the category; which forces us to put them under OHI or other area that doesn't fit them quite well. Not saying I disagree, but there is a certain amalgamated version that seems to be not quite right to me. All I can say is time will tell.
 
No offense taken from you, p&p. It's the APA I'm pissed at. I've never minded being odd though the lack of social awareness and skills was painful growing up. Learning to deal with people has taken an entire lifetime, even for a bear!
 
Well, sure, because social phobias don't go away in the face of better data.

But-- why spend so much time warning people? You ought to keep quiet, so that you can rejoice in the misery that happens when people get tar and feathered for being so disgusting.
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I suppose I'm just a Care Bear at heart.

I wish more teachers and politicians revealed how they bite the heads off chickens and stuff gerbils in their butts. If they believed what theyre doing is okay they would. So all the APA did was invite folks to get kicked in the ass. Society doesnt embrace kink.
 
May have to disagree with that... From my understanding they are eliminating the category; which forces us to put them under OHI or other area that doesn't fit them quite well. Not saying I disagree, but there is a certain amalgamated version that seems to be not quite right to me. All I can say is time will tell.
That makes no sense at all! :confused::confused:
 
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Bear,

From my understanding Asperger's is actually going by the wayside according to the AAS. This means, for good or bad, those kids will just be labeled "odd" by their peers again.


Well, it is an umbrella term fir a whole host of behavioral and perceptual dysfunctions, which can exist in various combos and intensities-- so, I can see that. But the kids 'll be labelled more precisely, not returned to a non-diagnosis.

Odd or weird still are umbrella terms for any behavior outside the norm. They are not diagnoses, of course, but they are what the peers of the suffering children will call them. :(
 
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Bear,

From my understanding Asperger's is actually going by the wayside according to the AAS. This means, for good or bad, those kids will just be labeled "odd" by their peers again.




Odd or weird still are umbrella terms for any behavior outside the norm. They are not diagnoses, of course, but they are what the peers of the suffering children will call them. :(
I never would have guessed that, Box. Thank you for explaining it to me. :rose:
 
All of this reminds me of the time I told my girfriend's mother to get birth control for her daughter. Momma had a better idea. For me it was the birth of wisdom about when to blabber and when to be quiet.
 
All of this reminds me of the time I told my girfriend's mother to get birth control for her daughter. Momma had a better idea. For me it was the birth of wisdom about when to blabber and when to be quiet.
Did you miscarry?
 
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