Kerry Advances Obama Policy Of Restraint Against Islamists

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[Sean]

How dare Kerry disapprove of war crimes. That PROVES he's a commie!

 

[BotanyBoy]

"to respect human rights and not harm civilians."

Fucking moron needs to get out from behind a fucking desk.....the civilians need to get the fuck out of the way, plain and simple.

 

[Boxlicker101]

How dare Kerry disapprove of war crimes. That PROVES he's a commie!

Whatever Nigeria does, it's a safe bet the Islamists have done worse in the territory they have occupied. I say that because they have always committed atrocities anywhere they have taken over.

 

[koalabear]

Machetes for all!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Whatever Nigeria does, it's a safe bet the Islamists have done worse in the territory they have occupied. I say that because they have always committed atrocities anywhere they have taken over.

You need to go read some history books.

 

[phrodeau]

Maybe we need to pay for all the past wars before we start funding new ones.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Maybe we need to pay for all the past wars before we start funding new ones.

Why it helps grow the economy and provides defense!!! No amount of money is too much!!

 

[Beco]

Machetes for all!

they never met a clit, they didn't want to chop off!

 

[renard_ruse]

they never met a clit, they didn't want to chop off!

That's a completely ignorant lie. In fact, the more you read about so-called female "circumcision" you realize what fabricated baloney we've been fed.

In fact, the truth about this is so different from the lies we've been fed that its almost to the point you could say the whole thing is completely fabricated, though that would be an oversimplification. However, what the average brainwashed westerner has been told about this is so far off the mark factually there's no reason to even get into the argument of respecting different cultures. Its not even what the media and others have said it is.

In short, little to get worked up over. Even a cursory glance at Wikipedia will provide an incredible amount of illumination about this not being what its been portrayed to be by the western media. And, furthermore, its not even an Islamic practice in the first place but a traditional African one among certain tribes.

 

[renard_ruse]

Nevermind reading the Wikipedia article its been "politically corrected" from what it said previously.

The fact remains the majority of the female "circumsicion" doesn't involve nor does it intend to involve the removal of the clitoris or to prevent future orgasms or sexual pleasure. The assumption westerners have been taught to have is that is what it means. The way its practiced in the vast majority of tribes is NOT to remove the clitoris. Its basically considered an aestetic modification. Its similar to the plastic surgery procedure of vaginoplasty in modern societies. Many of these cultures view flabby labias as unattractive and most of the women are happy they had this procedure done, just as most males who were circumcised as children are happy about it once they are older. Only in a minority of tribes is the goal to prevent future orgasms in women.

And, again, its not directly to do with Islam. Associating it with Islam is another Big Lie. Its an ancient cultural practice not religious.

 

[Beco]

That's a completely ignorant lie. In fact, the more you read about so-called female "circumcision" you realize what fabricated baloney we've been fed.

In fact, the truth about this is so different from the lies we've been fed that its almost to the point you could say the whole thing is completely fabricated, though that would be an oversimplification. However, what the average brainwashed westerner has been told about this is so far off the mark factually there's no reason to even get into the argument of respecting different cultures. Its not even what the media and others have said it is.

In short, little to get worked up over. Even a cursory glance at Wikipedia will provide an incredible amount of illumination about this not being what its been portrayed to be by the western media. And, furthermore, its not even an Islamic practice in the first place but a traditional African one among certain tribes.

Right, the Western media....right........

 

[Beco]

Of the 101 million girls of 10 years old and above estimated by the WHO to have undergone FGM in Africa, over 40 million are in Nigeria (with a 41 per cent prevalence). Indeed, Nigeria has the highest absolute number of FGM cases in the world. Our governments should be embarrassed that we lead only in those things that spell human misery, but are in the bottom rung of global rankings in those things that edify humanity.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You know CAIR had no problems with the IRS...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We'll always have Kosavo...



*sniff*

 

[RobDownSouth]

You know CAIR had no problems with the IRS...

Wrong again, Chief

 

[mercury14]

Of the 101 million girls of 10 years old and above estimated by the WHO to have undergone FGM in Africa, over 40 million are in Nigeria (with a 41 per cent prevalence). Indeed, Nigeria has the highest absolute number of FGM cases in the world. Our governments should be embarrassed that we lead only in those things that spell human misery, but are in the bottom rung of global rankings in those things that edify humanity.

Ruse' post is actually somewhat accurate. FGM is actually a really wide category ranging from a mere symbolic ritual to ghastly mutilation. The statistics are crude at best. And he's correct that it's usually a cultural thing in many areas rather than a religious one. Some African countries without major Islamic populations practice it frequently (ie Christian Kenya).

My Palestinian Muslim extended family members say it's abhorred among Muslim communities they're familiar with on the grounds that Allah made people in exactly the way he wanted, therefore body modification is the same as telling Allah he did a crappy job that needs improvement.

 

[mercury14]

So anyway, the point of this thread is that John Kerry said that human rights violations should be avoided and Vette thinks it's a bad thing. He thinks atrocities should happen is Nigeria wishes and nobody can say otherwise.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The administration is showing admirable restraint in Benghazi:

As I’ve noted, Libya is starting to fall apart and the Benghazi scandal cover-up prevented the Obama administration from taking serious action in regard to that country, including retaliation against the terrorist group that the United States knows was responsible.

In the last week, there was a car bomb and four attacks on Libyan military posts in Benghazi. The al-Qaeda affiliate that murdered four Americans controls parts of the city and is unchallenged by the central government, which has been too weak to confront those who reject its authority.

Al-Qaeda still controls part of the city’s entrances and the hospital where the U.S. ambassador’s body was taken by them last September 11. It has faced zero retaliation by the U.S. government and no pressure from Washington for the Libyan government to crack down on it.

Remember that the U.S. government’s attempt to make people forget the scandal and the insistence that the attack was caused by a demonstration against a video gone wrong have prevented the highlighting of the actual murders and any action taken against the perpetrators.

Barry Rueben, PJmedia
http://pjmedia.com/barryrubin/2013/05/18/more-violence-in-benghazi-shows-after-effects-of-scandal/

 

[mercury14]

The administration is showing admirable restraint in Benghazi:


Barry Rueben, PJmedia
http://pjmedia.com/barryrubin/2013/05/18/more-violence-in-benghazi-shows-after-effects-of-scandal/

After the email was shown to be edited it doesn't look like much of a scandalous coverup, does it?

 

[RobDownSouth]

After the email was shown to be edited it doesn't look like much of a scandalous coverup, does it?

It's been a win-win week. The foaming-at-the-mouth wingnut right has a "scandal" they can whine ceaselessly about, and President Obama's approval rating has climbed as the majority of Americans recognize the true nature of these nontroversies.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Absolutely, and those who stay on to give their support to Islamist terrorists, those who shelter them, supply them, and those sympathizers who cheer in the street at the results of terrorism, should be of no concern of decent people when their existence is vaporized along with the terrorists.

When I saw the tens of thousands in the Arab Street, dancing with joy at the deaths of Americans in the 9-11 attack on New York, my first mental image was of a Vietnam style B-52 Arc Light raid impacting along the length of that street, leaving nothing but black earth and only microscopic evidence of what was there moments before. Fuck the enemy and fuck his supporters.

Hater! They wont forgive us if we kill them!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Total bullshit. We need to see the other 22,900 White House emails concerning Benghazi.

The Vettebigot is especially proud of his "moving the goalposts" medal (with oak clusters).