JWST...the latest in imaging heavenly bodies...

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Now that heavenly bodies have been mentioned and thus qualifying this topic for Lit...

The not yet completed or launched, James Webb Space Telescope will be the next thing in astronomy. The Hubble Space telescope is already past it's original expiry date and with the last servicing shuttle mission (May 2009), the extended lifetime of the satellite will likely come to an end in 2013. Without the space shuttle (for which Hubble was expressly designed to be launched and serviced) to allow boosting of the telescope`s orbit, Hubble will continue to slowly fall in altitude due to the almost imperceptible but real drag caused by the uppermost extent of earth`s atmosphere. Without any more service missions, the telescope satellite will eventually re-enter Earth`s upper atmosphere and go out in a blaze of fiery glory.

The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) is tentatively planed to fly around 2018, that is, if Congress doesn`t cut the funding. Most of the 5.6 billion dollar budget has already been spent on basic design, engineering and initial component construction, but Congress has in the past saved a billion or so by writing off the several billion already spent on a project.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2011/071711DefendScience.shtml

The Hubble Space telescope can be arguably said to have been the single most successful scientific instrument ever constructed. After an initial glitch with the primary mirror was fixed, giving the telescope an even better degree of resolution than originally planed, it went on to be part of more basic research and discovery than any other telescope in history. It truly is an example of a space mission that has succeeded beyond all original expectations.

However, all good things come to an end. With the advances in Earth based telescopes, particularly in mirror size, design and the use of adaptive optics, Hubble will soon no longer be able to give a return on operating costs that justifies it`s ongoing use. To do things that no newer Earth based telescope can do, NASA has to put a space telescope much farther from Earth and design it to be able to do things that the Hubble never could do.

First, when it comes to telescopes, bigger is definitely better. All a telescope (any telescope) does is capture light (photons) and bring them to a focus point. The bigger the photon collecting surface, the more photons you capture. The JWST will have a primary mirror about six and a half meters in diameter (seven and a half times the area of Hubble`s mirror).

Hubble is primarily an optical telescope in that it is designed to work for the most part in the same range of electromagnetic radiation (light) as the human eye. The JWST is going to work primarily in the infrared (heat) spectrum. It will be able to look back 13.4 billion years into history to see the very first galaxies forming and the very first stars beginning to shine.

With it`s large mirror and excellent resolution, the JWST will be able to visualize planets in our galaxy. If it were twenty-five light years away, it could see the Earth.

One problem is that in order to do it`s job the telescope must be very far away from the heat of the Earth. Because it will work primarily in the infrared, it must be seriously cold and shielded from infrared radiation from the sun and the Earth. The heat shield will be about the size of a football field.

The second and bigger problem is that no rocket in existence is big enough to carry a mirror that big, let alone a heat shield that big. It`s not the mass of the telescope but it`s size. So, what to do, what to do...

Build the thing so that it can be folded up for launch and then unfold when it gets there. Unfortunately, there is Sun-Earth Lagrange point 2, about a million and a half kilometers from Earth, four times the distance to the Moon. If there is a glitch and things don`t go as planned, the telescope will be far beyond any ability of NASA (or anyone) to get there and fix things. It is definitely a one-off proposition.
 
The thing that bothers me about the JWST is that it is a heat-seeker. I have not seen anything which will make it see galaxies and so on in quite the same way as Hubble, so I guess the chances of some more really impressive visual pictures (remember the Horse-head nebula?) is vanishing.

I reckon this will not help the new students of astronomy; they'll have computer data and that's it!
 
The thing that bothers me about the JWST is that it is a heat-seeker. I have not seen anything which will make it see galaxies and so on in quite the same way as Hubble, so I guess the chances of some more really impressive visual pictures (remember the Horse-head nebula?) is vanishing.

I reckon this will not help the new students of astronomy; they'll have computer data and that's it!

JWST will still see those galaxies and such, but just in the inferred spectrum of light, yes heat. So it will not only see the Horse-head nebula, it will be able to see what is going on inside the birth place of the stars.

And don't worry about all those beautiful picture floating about the web, with computer technologies of today, the pics of a galaxy taken in the inferred can be shifted to the visible for posters on you screen saver.
 
JWST will still see those galaxies and such, but just in the inferred spectrum of light, yes heat. So it will not only see the Horse-head nebula, it will be able to see what is going on inside the birth place of the stars.

And don't worry about all those beautiful picture floating about the web, with computer technologies of today, the pics of a galaxy taken in the inferred can be shifted to the visible for posters on you screen saver.

I somehow think it's not quite the same, but thanks for telling me.
I'll make sure my grand-children understand.

Here's an illustration of what I meant:-
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2003/11/image/a/format/web_print/
 
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http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2003-11-a-web_print.jpg

This gorgeous, multicolor image of the Helix Nebula was taken by the Hubble Space telescope.

Well...not exactly. The data for the image was captured by Hubble. The image was created, just as all Hubble images are created, by the good people at the Space Telescope Operations Control Center (STOCC) located in Greenbelt, Maryland.

All Hubble does is capture photons on a specialized camera called a CCD (charge-couple device). You can buy a similar astronomy camera for your own telescope. The data is in grey-scale (shades of black and white). The magnificent images released to the public are created by image data processing. Color is created by a touch of computer wizardry and a great deal of artistic license.

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/

Those beautiful images are simply publicity for NASA. People want to see something for their tax dollars. As altered data, they are useless to the astronomers and astrophysicists. They work only with simple raw data.

BTW...if you want to create your own astounding images of heavenly bodies (the deep space variety) and you lack the billions to have your own space telescope or a deep space probe like Cassini, you can have access to the raw data. Not necessarily current data, as the astronomers at NASA and various places around the world get first crack at the current stuff.

Reams of old data from past space probes (and even Hubble, I believe) is available to those who have the technical ability to download the stuff. There is a growing cadre of astro imagers who are mining old data and creating their own gee whiz, full color images from what was purely scientific data.

(Note to the feint of heart; astro imaging involves a steep and often painful learning curve. Mining NASA data for imaging purposes is a logarithmic step or three above simple imaging. If you have even a basic knowledge of astro imaging, you know the story.)
 
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2003-11-a-web_print.jpg

This gorgeous, multicolor image of the Helix Nebula was taken by the Hubble Space telescope.

Well...not exactly. The data for the image was captured by Hubble. The image was created, just as all Hubble images are created, by the good people at the Space Telescope Operations Control Center (STOCC) located in Greenbelt, Maryland.

All Hubble does is capture photons on a specialized camera called a CCD (charge-couple device). You can buy a similar astronomy camera for your own telescope. The data is in grey-scale (shades of black and white). The magnificent images released to the public are created by image data processing. Color is created by a touch of computer wizardry and a great deal of artistic license.

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/

Those beautiful images are simply publicity for NASA. People want to see something for their tax dollars. As altered data, they are useless to the astronomers and astrophysicists. They work only with simple raw data.

BTW...if you want to create your own astounding images of heavenly bodies (the deep space variety) and you lack the billions to have your own space telescope or a deep space probe like Cassini, you can have access to the raw data. Not necessarily current data, as the astronomers at NASA and various places around the world get first crack at the current stuff.

Reams of old data from past space probes (and even Hubble, I believe) is available to those who have the technical ability to download the stuff. There is a growing cadre of astro imagers who are mining old data and creating their own gee whiz, full color images from what was purely scientific data.

(Note to the feint of heart; astro imaging involves a steep and often painful learning curve. Mining NASA data for imaging purposes is a logarithmic step or three above simple imaging. If you have even a basic knowledge of astro imaging, you know the story.)

And through the magic of computer technology, the JWST images can be colorized to look just like this, except with the hot points inside the nebula revealed.
 
Thanks for spoiling my imagination's ideal.
Seriously, thanks for the griff.
I knew that some of the pictures had colour information (white = V Hot, Blue= cold, etc..), but I did not imagine it quite as "bad" as that.
Perhaps they should have left the pics in B&W ?

There's anew digital 'scope being built in France which features a large number of CCDs, each 4.7 by 6 cm. IT will put the 'megapixel' count up to the billions when it's all together. Trouble is I forget witch telescope it's going in, or even where I read it (maybe the Register)
 
There's anew digital 'scope being built in France which features a large number of CCDs, each 4.7 by 6 cm. IT will put the 'megapixel' count up to the billions when it's all together. Trouble is I forget witch telescope it's going in, or even where I read it (maybe the Register)

So far it's a camera and is almost complete. It is truly a marvel. It was commissioned by the European Space Agency (ESA) and was built by e2v Technologies of Chelmsford, UK. It recently reached a milestone when all 106 CCD's were assembled into a singe mosaic for the first time.

http://sci.esa.int/science-e-media/img/fa/Gaia-CCD-array-assembly4_07-06-2011_screen.jpg

It will fly on board the ESA mission Gaia, and also will hang out at the Sun-Earth Lagrange 2 point, about 1.5 million kilometers from earth.

http://www.esa.int/esaSC/120377_index_0_m.html

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=48901
 
Following the contributions to this thread, I have come to a conclusion based upon further reading.
It could be argued that Hubble DOES take pictures in colour, but it grabs the image in three bites like a colour TV camera (R G & B).

Ah well, never mind. THey are damned good pictures
 
Following the contributions to this thread, I have come to a conclusion based upon further reading.
It could be argued that Hubble DOES take pictures in colour, but it grabs the image in three bites like a colour TV camera (R G & B).

Ah well, never mind. THey are damned good pictures

I don't know if colour CCD chips existed back when Hubble was launched, but the cameras on Hubble don't use them. Even the cameras that have been added to Hubble by servicing missions are all black and white.

Colour CCD chips are not as efficient as grey-scale CCD chips and with a scientific instrument like Hubble, inefficiency is not acceptable. When you are collecting photons from something clear across the visible universe, every photon counts. (That's an imaging joke. The problem is that every photon does not necessarily get detected, hence the need for utmost quantum efficiency (QE). QE is a measure of how many photons hitting the photoreactive surface of the chip will actually create an electron-hole pair and be counted.)

Clour CCD chips work by having a Bayer Filter over the photoreceptor surface of the chip. Unfortunately, the Bayer Filter blocks up to two thirds of the photons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter

The other way to make a colour CCD chip is to use a 3CCD chip and a dichroic beam splitter prism. This gives a better quantum efficiency than a Bayer Filter but it introduces many more pieces of glass, all of which absorb photons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3CCD

Colour CCD chips are great when you have lots of photons to work with, as in your hand-held video camera taking sunny day, outside movies.

What Hubble does have is a number of optical filters that can be placed between the collected photons and the CCD chip. Astroimaging grey-scale CCD cameras for us mere amateurs use the same principle.

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/hubble.php

Taking images of an object several times with differing filters (each concentrating on a particular band of electromagnetic wavelength) gives several different images of the same object. These differing images are then computer processed, colour is assigned by the computer and finally the images are stacked into a single image and voilà...

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1106/ngc3132_hst_900.jpg
NGC 3132: The Eight Burst Nebula

...a full colour, (completely artificial colour) image that taxpayers can ohh and ahh over.
 
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I think they do it with the RGB filters.
But its a really "Aahh" picture. . .
 
I think they do it with the RGB filters.
But its a really "Aahh" picture. . .

Beauty...aint it?

I have no idea how many different filters are on board Hubble. The Advanced Camera for Surveys alone has 38 filters that can be used. I have no clue as to how many filters the Wide Field Camera 3 uses. Then there is the the Near Infrared Camera and Multi-Object Spectrometer (NICMOS), not to mention the Cosmic Origins Spectrograph (COS) and the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph (STIS).

The R, B and G filters will only show photons from the red, green and blue portions of the light spectrum that we can already see. A lot of the gee whiz images are enhanced by adding near infrared and near ultraviolet as well. Our eyes can't see it but Hubble can. This adds light from new star formation, emission nebulae and a variety of astronomical events that don't show in our human optical spectrum. Those images are simply and artificially given a colour (that we can see) by the computer data processing software and added to the image for the beauty of it all. In this way, the images show clearly (to our human eyes) astronomical events that we would otherwise never be able to see.
 
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