Lauren Hynde
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Just when you thought reality-TV had hit rock-bottom...
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Not too worry. Gladitorial combat will be returning soon.
Then we can really say we've hit rock bottom.
Then we can really say we've hit rock bottom.
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3113 said:Aren't such cage matches already shown on tv?
On the other hand, we haven't yet thrown people to lions....
The people are only maimed in those.
We're talking full scale eviscerations here.
Bread and circuses. It's a no fail strategy.
Good money in it too.
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noooo no no no...!
<---going back to hiding my head in the sand
<---going back to hiding my head in the sand
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Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the patient be voting on the donor..."no, I'd rather die of cancer than have a part of you..." I'm not meanign to sound harsh, but have you seen that movie with Minnie Driver and David Duchovny...no thanks.
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Lauren Hynde said:
Yet another reason to celebrate my lack of a tv-(almost....)
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I tried thinking about this in another way. Reality TV's popular, contestents build up big followings and fan clubs. It's possible that the two "losers" would have offers of kidneys at the end of it all, despite losing.
But it still bothers me, because it all boils down to this simple formula:
If you're popular enough, you'll live. But if you're not bubbly enough, or outgoing enough, or you don't look all that great, then you're going to die sooner rather than later.
But it still bothers me, because it all boils down to this simple formula:
If you're popular enough, you'll live. But if you're not bubbly enough, or outgoing enough, or you don't look all that great, then you're going to die sooner rather than later.
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scheherazade_79 said:I tried thinking about this in another way. Reality TV's popular, contestents build up big followings and fan clubs. It's possible that the two "losers" would have offers of kidneys at the end of it all, despite losing.
But it still bothers me, because it all boils down to this simple formula:
If you're popular enough, you'll live. But if you're not bubbly enough, or outgoing enough, or you don't look all that great, then you're going to die sooner rather than later.
Yeah, let's not the thousands of people every year who die waiting for donations but will never make it onto a show becaues they can't make it past the auditions.
This is most definitly a new low.
I've been reading about this in the Dutch newspapers lately. When I first heard about this idea, I was sickened. How could they turn something like that into a gameshow?
And then, I ran across an article that talked about why the producers were doing it. They wanted to bring awareness to the issue surrounding organ transplant, mostly that people are on waiting lists for very, very, long periods of time, and most never get the organ they need to survive.
With this program, they are guaranteed a 33.3% chance. This is a better chance than they would get on an organ-donor list. Those participating were thrilled with these odds, and were more than happy to "compete".
Let me just say I do NOT condone the program itself, it still bothers me on more than one level, however if their goal was to raise awareness, it succeeded, if only just for me.
And then, I ran across an article that talked about why the producers were doing it. They wanted to bring awareness to the issue surrounding organ transplant, mostly that people are on waiting lists for very, very, long periods of time, and most never get the organ they need to survive.
With this program, they are guaranteed a 33.3% chance. This is a better chance than they would get on an organ-donor list. Those participating were thrilled with these odds, and were more than happy to "compete".
Let me just say I do NOT condone the program itself, it still bothers me on more than one level, however if their goal was to raise awareness, it succeeded, if only just for me.
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SelenaKittyn said:noooo no no no...!
<---going back to hiding my head in the sand
Just your head?
*leaping-grope-pounce*
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I know most other people don't, but I miss American Gladiators.
And on that note, I wouldn't be surprised if old-school roman style gladiators and sacrifices and all of that returned in the form of "reality TV".
And please don't kill off the stupid celebrity girls. Despite the fact that they don't add anything to the real world around them, that isn't a good enough reason to throw them to the lions for me.
Politicians, by all means. Throw them by the dozens. But leave the poor stupid (hot
) celebrity chicks alone 
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Update
Kidney Transplant TV Show Is a Hoax
By TOBY STERLING Associated Press Writer
June 01,2007 | AMSTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch television show in which a terminally ill woman would supposedly donate her kidney to one of three contestants was revealed as a hoax Friday.
At the last moment, presenter Patrick Lodiers of the "Big Donor Show" said the woman known as "Lisa" was an actress, not actually dying of a brain tumor as claimed.
The entire exercise was intended to pressure the government into reforming its organ donation laws and raise public awareness of the need for organs.
The three prospective recipients were real patients in need of transplants and had been in on the hoax, the show said.
The program concept had led to widespread criticism for being tasteless and unethical.
But Lodiers said that it was "reality that was shocking" because around 200 people die annually in the Netherlands while waiting for a kidney, and the average waiting time is more than four years.
"I thought it was brilliant, really," said Caroline Klingers, a kidney patient who was watching the show at a kidney treatment center in Bussum, Netherlands.
"I know these transplant doctors, and I thought they'll never go and actually do it. But it's good for the publicity and there are no losers."
The Netherlands' doctors association had called on members not to participate in the program, and questioned its authenticity.
"Given the large medical, psychological, and legal uncertainties around this case, the KNMG considers the chance extremely small that it will ever come to an organ transplant," it said.
The show was produced by Endemol, which created "Big Brother" in 1999, introducing the concept of reality TV.
Viewers were called on to vote for their favorite candidate by SMS text message for euro0.60 per vote during the show.
Earlier in the week, the Cabinet declined suggestions from lawmakers to ban the program, saying that would amount to censorship.
BNN had said the donation would happen before Lisa's death. But doctors often refuse to accept organ donations from terminally ill patients because the operation could hasten their death.
Under Dutch rules, donors must be friends, or preferably family, of the organ recipient. Meeting on a television program wouldn't qualify.
BNN spokeswoman Marieke Saly had said earlier Friday that all arrangements for the program were completed, but she declined to comment on where and when the donation would be carried out.
"It's going through," she said.
Kidney Transplant TV Show Is a Hoax
By TOBY STERLING Associated Press Writer
June 01,2007 | AMSTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch television show in which a terminally ill woman would supposedly donate her kidney to one of three contestants was revealed as a hoax Friday.
At the last moment, presenter Patrick Lodiers of the "Big Donor Show" said the woman known as "Lisa" was an actress, not actually dying of a brain tumor as claimed.
The entire exercise was intended to pressure the government into reforming its organ donation laws and raise public awareness of the need for organs.
The three prospective recipients were real patients in need of transplants and had been in on the hoax, the show said.
The program concept had led to widespread criticism for being tasteless and unethical.
But Lodiers said that it was "reality that was shocking" because around 200 people die annually in the Netherlands while waiting for a kidney, and the average waiting time is more than four years.
"I thought it was brilliant, really," said Caroline Klingers, a kidney patient who was watching the show at a kidney treatment center in Bussum, Netherlands.
"I know these transplant doctors, and I thought they'll never go and actually do it. But it's good for the publicity and there are no losers."
The Netherlands' doctors association had called on members not to participate in the program, and questioned its authenticity.
"Given the large medical, psychological, and legal uncertainties around this case, the KNMG considers the chance extremely small that it will ever come to an organ transplant," it said.
The show was produced by Endemol, which created "Big Brother" in 1999, introducing the concept of reality TV.
Viewers were called on to vote for their favorite candidate by SMS text message for euro0.60 per vote during the show.
Earlier in the week, the Cabinet declined suggestions from lawmakers to ban the program, saying that would amount to censorship.
BNN had said the donation would happen before Lisa's death. But doctors often refuse to accept organ donations from terminally ill patients because the operation could hasten their death.
Under Dutch rules, donors must be friends, or preferably family, of the organ recipient. Meeting on a television program wouldn't qualify.
BNN spokeswoman Marieke Saly had said earlier Friday that all arrangements for the program were completed, but she declined to comment on where and when the donation would be carried out.
"It's going through," she said.
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Life: The Ultimate Reality Show.scheherazade_79 said:...
If you're popular enough, you'll live. But if you're not bubbly enough, or outgoing enough, or you don't look all that great, then you're going to die sooner rather than later.
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