~Jeff Foxworthy voice~ If the Daily Beast is callin' you out. . .

[Conager]

. . .you just might be a hypocrite.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-have-late-night-tv-hosts-gone-silent-on-tara-reades-biden-allegation

The jokes have written themselves or can easily be repurposed from Trump jokes. When will they get the all-clear to unleash them?

Have the Dems figured out how they are going to pull a switcheroo, or are they going to grin and bear it?

 

[Rotadom]

Kind of funny that the article starts off with "the Liberal Hollywood Elite" creating an entire movement after "one of their own" was charged and convicted.

 

[Conager]

Yeah, that bid failed.

The first sacrificial pawn was Franken. The idea was to show that they knocked out one, so Republicans should abandon Trump.

Didn't work.

They even went so far as to decry Clinton's behavior (a couple of decades too late) when the Clintons and their cash were no longer valuable to them. That didn't work, either.

They would have continued to not only look the other way while taking Weinstein's cash and important celebrity access but let him use his associations with powerful Democrats to cow women into silence if the insatiable pig hadn't made it impossible to cover it all up. Major news organizations were complicit. Harvey could ruin your reputation in the press and in progressive high society.

Dems love them some Johnnie one-note music. They find a tune that worked once and they play it on repeat till the record wears out. Just like nobody cares about charges of racism anymore people are going to be just as inured to accusations of sexual harrassment and abuse.

It's clear that Dems never actually cared, their mindset doesn't value the individual anyway, why should this be different?

 

[Rotadom]

The Dems bit themselves in the ass when they went after Franken that hard. If he hasn't totally soured on politics, I hope he comes back for a 2024 or 2028 bid.

 

[Conager]

Doubt his voter fraud would be as successful the second time. I also think that the days of Republicans rolling over on every recount and letting the dams decide which ballots count for whom are over. Every ballot will be fought over tooth and nail by both sides. Had they done that Frankin never would have been a senator anyway.

It is curious though that Gillibrand and many, many others tossed him to the wolves for less than Biden has done on camera, much less the Reid accusation, which they weirdly discount.

On a serious, non-partisan note, all of it is awful. The parallel between Trump and the dressing room inviting having the girl up against the wall and Weinstein all have the ring of verity. I doubt that the problem goes away with public discourse. (Less do with the current sweeping it under the rug)

The flip side is that reaching back 30 years is another kind of problematic issue to wrestle with. There is a reason that most crimes have a statute of limitations. It is in just because all well that was in the past and I'm sure the person isn't like that anymore it's because the longer the time goes by the harder it is to put anything in contact and the older a memory is it doesn't improve.

What needs to happen is that people need to better understand what is an is not encouragement they need to behave themselves and when they miss behave women need to feel free to call them out immediately at the time get the accusation recorded in some fashion in a way that the purpetrator clearly understands what he did was wrong (if it was) and he needs to make it right at that time not 30 years later.

I get why victims are reluctant to come forward especially when the perpetrator has power but that's what has to happen. If that doesn't happen it can't be addressed. The sooner addressed the sooner misunderstandings about how two people viewed an event can be ironed out.

What's assume for the sake of discussion that the Biden read event happened exactly the way she remembers it. The way it was described there's no question that Biden way over stepped anything that might resemble encouragement or permission. This was not some escalation that went a little farther than she wanted it to go it came out of nowhere. Even still here's this much younger Biden who's probably has had successful grouping with some Washington power groupies and started thinking that any woman that *he* wants is available on some level to him.

Had he handled the parting better she might just have been left with a feeling of, "What a bumbling fool." The violation was his much his frank dismissal of her as a person at the end as the actual violation. That part rings true because you see him doing that to people who disagree with him at public events.

Let'sassume that he did exactly what he did and he handled it badly and she had found the courage to nervously stand up.for herself firmly and clearly and had identified everything that it happened in writing to his office. You can tell that then and now she was always reluctant to come forward because she preferred not to harm Biden. She probably would have dropped it all with a sincere apology and it acknowledgement that she had been wronged. (Or "wronglied" as Luk prefers.)

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

On a serious, non-partisan note, all of it is awful. The parallel between Trump and the dressing room inviting having the girl up against the wall and Weinstein all have the ring of verity. I doubt that the problem goes away with public discourse. (Less do with the current sweeping it under the rug)

The flip side is that reaching back 30 years is another kind of problematic issue to wrestle with. There is a reason that most crimes have a statute of limitations.

Which is why I have been saying it isn't about Franken or Clinton, it is the Brett Kavanaugh deal. I was shocked as it was going down, did the Dems really think that opening Pandora's box was going work just this once and then close? High School antics are now fair game? I would use the chess checkers analogy, but is more like the Reps are playing tiddlywinks and the Dems are paying wallow in the shit puddle.

I ga-run-tee that there are Rep operatives running around right now looking at every town and city Senator (that is Senator, not high school boy) Biden ever went to and trying to dig up some bat to tell her story for a shot of fame. Expect an October surprise. And a September. And August. Who knows, maybe the Dems were serious when the professed outrage at high school antics and they will abandon Biden by Nov.

When you die on the Kavanaugh hill, you die on the Kavanaugh hill.

 

[Ziggins]

The Dems have this excuse to dump him, instead of admitting they voted for senile incompetence.

 

[OldJourno]

It's the new movement.

Woman No.1: Even though Joe did it, I'm voting for him.
Woman No. 2: #metoo!