Jan Brewer is a pussy.
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Fucking noobs.
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You should have started a counting thread in the Playground.
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Assuming you don't live in Arizona, I'll offer some background.
Arizona spent itself into the toilet with Janet Napolitano in the governor's mansion and a lot of moderate Republicans in the Legislature.
Napolitano's final years were noteworthy because she employed the line-item veto to actually increase spending. I saw her at a town hall meeting a couple of months before she left for D.C. and Homeland Security, about the time it was becoming evident that Arizona's budget was up shit creek without a paddle.
Napolitano airily assured us any problems could be handled by dipping into the rainy day fund.
She wasn't wrong. She was misleading us. I'm pretty sure more than half the people in the room knew she was lying through her teeth.
Arizona muddled through a couple of very painful legislative sessions, including the one where they sold the state buildings for the cash and leased them back to help balance the books. Along the way, while Democrats were insisting the only answer was higher taxes, voters were throwing out moderate Republicans in 2010 and replacing them with conservatives, and a fair share of Democrats were also tossed out of the Legislature.
Now the state has a balance in the black, and it will stay that way as long as Legislature and Brewer don't go apeshit and start spending. There's even talk about buying back some of those leased state buildings ahead of time.
As a conservative, I'm not sure the lease-back was the smart thing to do, simply because I don't think the Legislature did the hard work of going through the budget line-by-line to find redundancy and waste. In other words, other alternatives were out there.
That said, I'm confident in the future of my state as long as Brewer and the conservatives remain in charge, unless we get buried in the federal health care costs.
Arizona spent itself into the toilet with Janet Napolitano in the governor's mansion and a lot of moderate Republicans in the Legislature.
Napolitano's final years were noteworthy because she employed the line-item veto to actually increase spending. I saw her at a town hall meeting a couple of months before she left for D.C. and Homeland Security, about the time it was becoming evident that Arizona's budget was up shit creek without a paddle.
Napolitano airily assured us any problems could be handled by dipping into the rainy day fund.
She wasn't wrong. She was misleading us. I'm pretty sure more than half the people in the room knew she was lying through her teeth.
Arizona muddled through a couple of very painful legislative sessions, including the one where they sold the state buildings for the cash and leased them back to help balance the books. Along the way, while Democrats were insisting the only answer was higher taxes, voters were throwing out moderate Republicans in 2010 and replacing them with conservatives, and a fair share of Democrats were also tossed out of the Legislature.
Now the state has a balance in the black, and it will stay that way as long as Legislature and Brewer don't go apeshit and start spending. There's even talk about buying back some of those leased state buildings ahead of time.
As a conservative, I'm not sure the lease-back was the smart thing to do, simply because I don't think the Legislature did the hard work of going through the budget line-by-line to find redundancy and waste. In other words, other alternatives were out there.
That said, I'm confident in the future of my state as long as Brewer and the conservatives remain in charge, unless we get buried in the federal health care costs.
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What she has is poor impulse control and a complete lack of respect for the office of the president
Oh geez an Obamabot.
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*shrug*
Not really
Im just an American
and I think when elected officials disagree with POTUS
you either do it in private, or you do it respectfully.
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Ya know TWB she has a pussy but I'll bet she has a bigger set of BALLS then you.
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For someone who his critics insist is the most arrogant man to ever serve as President, Obama has put up with an unprecedented amount of disrespect: Joe Wilson, the hockey idiot, and now the certifiable moron running Arizona.
It all fits with the contemporary conservative worldview that Democratic presidents are inherently illegitimate; therefore no show of courtesy or respect is required.
It all fits with the contemporary conservative worldview that Democratic presidents are inherently illegitimate; therefore no show of courtesy or respect is required.
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Americans are inherently disrespectful?
You are right, it takes a big set of balls to stand up in front of the press, who you know are watching and filming and wag your finger at the commander and chief as if you were lecturing a disobedient child.
Never said she didnt have balls, brains on the other hand, not so much.
I think there is a huge difference in pundits and comedians disrespecting the president, and elected officials doing it.
I was never ok with it when it happened to Bush, and I'm not ok with it now.
However, it does feel like it happens a lot more now then it did with Bush
With Bush, people talked to the press behind his back
with this president they seem to feel its ok to talk in public and to his face as if he were still a junior senator.
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Do you respect the person that shits on your lawn?
The office of the president demands respect, the transient that occupies that office gets the respect they earn. The mere occupying of the office does not enure to the occupant respect. That is the significant difference between the American model and the model used by most of the rest of the world.
Brewer does have more balls than Obama when you get down to it. In a confrontation, that Obama provoked, in public, she said her piece privately. And in public she severely down played the event.
His beef with her was as a result of her rendition of a meeting they had at the White House which she chronicled in a book she wrote. He disagrees, fine, the White House has ALL the transcripts of that meeting. Why not take them public and let the people decide? Or, in your opinion, is it the American thing to do to just take the presidents word as if it's the word of God?
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There is certainly nothing unique about sell and lease back in the business world, either.
As for "respect" for the president, I wonder how many Democratic senators, congressmen and governors will suddenly have important PTA meetings they have to attend rather than share a campaign stage with Obama this summer and fall.
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I'm hearing that 100,000 copies of Scorpions for Breakfast, Jan Brewer's book, have been sold since her cordial meeting with the big-eared beanpole.
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warning rant ahead
I too read what they were arguing about, and I have no real opinion on it. She wrote a book, he didn't like how she characterize him and then she had the balls to request another meeting, not in private but in front of everyone, and then he had the balls to tell her he didn't like how she described their last meeting... whatever, the argument is unimportant.
Im sorry, but for the 4 years someone is sworn in as POTUS he has earned respect. He earned it by winning the election. We, as a country, elected him. And you dont get to wag your finger at the president in public. You want to argue, there's a time, and a place. But you dont get to shout out when he speaks, you dont get to tell him congress doesn't have time for him today and you damn sure dont get to get in his face and wag your finger because you dont like his tone.
Its called being an adult, and a representative of our country and your state. We are more cordial to the leaders of other countries then we are to our own.
When she is out in public, meeting the president, she is on the job. I dont pick my nose or walk around in my underwear on the job, why? Because I know when Im at work, I represent the company I work for, and even if I am dealing with a customer I hate, who is a total bitch. I am polite and respectful.
She saw an opportunity to play to her base, and look tough against the dreaded Obama, and she took it.
It was petty and beneath her
I too read what they were arguing about, and I have no real opinion on it. She wrote a book, he didn't like how she characterize him and then she had the balls to request another meeting, not in private but in front of everyone, and then he had the balls to tell her he didn't like how she described their last meeting... whatever, the argument is unimportant.
Im sorry, but for the 4 years someone is sworn in as POTUS he has earned respect. He earned it by winning the election. We, as a country, elected him. And you dont get to wag your finger at the president in public. You want to argue, there's a time, and a place. But you dont get to shout out when he speaks, you dont get to tell him congress doesn't have time for him today and you damn sure dont get to get in his face and wag your finger because you dont like his tone.
Its called being an adult, and a representative of our country and your state. We are more cordial to the leaders of other countries then we are to our own.
When she is out in public, meeting the president, she is on the job. I dont pick my nose or walk around in my underwear on the job, why? Because I know when Im at work, I represent the company I work for, and even if I am dealing with a customer I hate, who is a total bitch. I am polite and respectful.
She saw an opportunity to play to her base, and look tough against the dreaded Obama, and she took it.
It was petty and beneath her
