Jalal Talabani offers Kurdistan to the US to liberate Iraq!

[Frimost]

If we gotta do it then I'm glad that we at least have some allies right now!

Kurds offer territory for Iraq attack
August 13, 2002 Posted: 5:54 PM EDT (2154 GMT)

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A prominent Iraqi Kurdish opposition leader said Tuesday U.S. military forces would be "welcomed" at areas in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq to stage attacks against Saddam Hussein's regime.

Jalal Talabani, founder and secretary-general of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that after weekend meetings with top Bush administration officials, he and other Iraqi opposition leaders are convinced the United States is now serious about ousting Hussein.

"I explained to the United States officials here that the Iraqi opposition, Kurds included, ... have tens of thousands of armed people," Talabani said.

"We have more than 100,000 (Kurdish resistance fighters), and Syria also has tens of thousands. These forces can liberate Iraq with the support of the United States, with cooperation and coordination with American forces. This is all second, of course, with allowing the United States and facilitating any work that the United States wants to use our area until we stay there."


The opposition leaders met with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as other top officials. Talabani said that despite rumors to the contrary, "The American army will be very warmly welcomed in Iraqi Kurdistan."

"Believe me, the United States is very popular now in Iraqi Kurdistan," he said.

A U.S. official told CNN the Bush administration is assessing the offer. The official said the Iraqi opposition has previously made similar offers in private, but this is the first time they have gone public with an offer to use areas in northern Iraq.

Turkey -- a staunch U.S. ally during the 1991 Persian Gulf War -- has expressed concern that military action could lead to the creation of an independent Kurdish state on its border and encourage Kurdish separatists in Turkey.

Turkey has been fighting a 15-year civil war with Kurdish militants in the southeast of the country.

At Tuesday's Pentagon briefing, Rumsfeld was asked if he was aware of the offer and if it was helpful that it was made publicly. The secretary said he doesn't recall hearing the offer in the meetings, which he described as "constructive."

"If I said, 'My goodness, that's a big help,' it suggests that we plan to go use them. And that is a decision the president has not made," Rumsfeld.

Talabani said he expected Hussein to respond to the Kurdish offer by attacking with chemical or biological weapons. He said Iraqi opposition groups have asked the United States for equipment to protect against chemical or biological attacks.

"They promised to help and to protect us. Even Dick Cheney was clear when we asked him about the protection of the Kurdish people. He said he would do it," Talabani said.

to you PP-man! Bush convinced them after all (something ClinToon could not do)

 

[Lost Cause]

You find the best allies...

In those that have the most to lose!
I just wished ol' William the Weak had had the fortitude to kill Bin Laden after the '93 WTC bombing after he was linked to the ops. It drives me crazy when there is a decision to be made, and those making it hesitate, see what's the popular trend! I'm glad Gore didn't make it, if he did, we'd be paying reparations to Bin Laden for his people "forced" into terrorism because of America's globalism!

 

[p_p_man]

to you PP-man! Bush convinced them after all (something ClinToon could not do)

Words, mere words...

 

[SINthysist]

That's great. Offering something that is not theirs to offer...

 

[Rex1960]

Are they going to throw dices in Oval Office ??

 

[SINthysist]

It's one of our words that already is plural. One die is cast, two dice are cast...

But your English is a hell of a lot better than my German. My Spanish. My Chinese.

Now when Germany takes over, and they will, will you take p_p_man's computer away from him until HE learns the language?

 

[Rex1960]

If we gotta do it then I'm glad that we at least have some allies right now!
to you PP-man! Bush convinced them after all (something ClinToon could not do)

I'd like to add a link to this interview Talabani had with the german news magazine "Spiegel" published June 15 Interview (in german)

To give you a short summary....

Talabani(PUK) and Barsani (KDP) talked to US officials (including CIA) about the role of the kurdish oppostion in a war against Saddam Hussein.
The Kurds want to be part of federal democratic scenarios in future Iraqi society. Otherwise they wouldn't take part in any military scenario against Baghdad.
An independant Kurdistan is not #1 on their agenda. But a future Kurdistan should include the oilfields of Kirkuk.

Rex

 

[SINthysist]

That ain't going to happen!

 

[Rex1960]

It's one of our words that already is plural. One die is cast, two dice are cast...

But your English is a hell of a lot better than my German. My Spanish. My Chinese.

Now when Germany takes over, and they will, will you take p_p_man's computer away from him until HE learns the language?

Germany takes over ?? What the f***...
I guess we don't have the right to even think about it again since we failed the last time (thank God).

Taking away p_p_man's puter ? lol
I'd have to look first if he ever came here as yayati !!
and if so, I'd shove that keyboard up his arse....

 

[SINthysist]

You obviously have not read my theories on the New Holy Roman Empire (NHRE - aka EU) and the eventual need to know GERMAN!

 

[Rex1960]

That ain't going to happen!

I think Turkey plays the key role in this scenario.
Or better say how Oval Office and State Department value Ankara as an ally they'd still support...

And since Turkey delivers water to Israel....
oh wait - Euphrate/Tigris are in turkish Kurdistan...
fuck - what will Putin say ?

Oh and then again Barzani and Talabani fought against eachother back in 1994...

OMG - all these decisions

I'm so glad I'm not attached to Condoleeza...

 

[Rex1960]

You obviously have not read my theories on the New Holy Roman Empire (NHRE - aka EU) and the eventual need to know GERMAN!

The first contracts to install the former European Economic Community were signed in Rome back in 1955. Coincidence ?

Tell me more about these theories...

Rex

 

[SINthysist]

I say, restore a lot of the Ottoman Empire...

 

[SINthysist]

Yes, the eventual, PEACEFUL, subjugation of the European Continent by the German Work Ethic as you slowly take over on the business level, then the political level, and finally even in language and currency as people, say like the French, realize they are better off under German occupation and just surrender to their eventual fate...



After all, the original HRE was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire...

... which is what I keep telling p_p_, That is what the EU is all about.

LONG LIVE THE NHRE!

 

[Rex1960]

I say, restore a lot of the Ottoman Empire...

why ??
Finally it was just one of those Empires that died...

Rex (shivering in anticipation)

 

[Rex1960]

Yes, the eventual, PEACEFUL, subjugation of the European Continent by the German Work Ethic as you slowly take over on the business level, then the political level, and finally even in language and currency as people, say like the French, realize they are better off under German occupation and just surrender to their eventual fate...



After all, the original HRE was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire...

... which is what I keep telling p_p_, That is what the EU is all about.

LONG LIVE THE NHRE!

No no no - we really don't want to stop the Brits from drinking tea or the French from eating frogs...
On the other hand we could teach them how to brew and pour a proper beer or how to make some strong coffee...

And see - we are so quickly running out of clever concepts how to rule. Last time we tried we had an austrian/bohemian Führer no wonder we failed.



I really hope that never happenes

 

[SINthysist]

When someone else is in charge, then they are all just bandits in the desert. Same as always!

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Words, mere words...

Dear Moron,

You take the slightest burp and giggle made by anyone higher up than Congressional Valet and plaster those mere words atop your "America Stinky" rants as though they were Commandments from Moses handed down from God. Just thought I'd point that out. Next round's on me.

Cheers.

 

[Guest]

What's Talaban doing in Iraq? Hadn't they been defeted and disbannded in Afganistan? Does this mean Talaban and US are on the same side again?

 

[Rex1960]

What's Talaban doing in Iraq? Hadn't they been defeted and disbannded in Afganistan? Does this mean Talaban and US are on the same side again?

You don't have CNN in WestAfrica, do you ?
Since George W. has to thank Florida for at least something he is going to rename their capital into Talabanassee...

 

[teddybear4play]

Dear Moron,

You take the slightest burp and giggle made by anyone higher up than Congressional Valet and plaster those mere words atop your "America Stinky" rants as though they were Commandments from Moses handed down from God. Just thought I'd point that out. Next round's on me.

Cheers.

I've been laughing for the last ten minutes about "America Stinky."

Kudos, DCL, for the funniest goddamn thing I've read in a while.

TB4p

 

[Frimost]

That's great. Offering something that is not theirs to offer...

Oh BS, Kurds have lived there all there lives, that is their traditional homeland. Just because drunk British and French Colonial farts in their little mansions sipping tea forgot to add Kurdistan to the maps when they were drawing it does not make them non-existent. The borders drawn there are for the most part mere guesses and arbitrary, just because The UN has not put the rubber stamp on something to make it official doesn’t mean jack in the span of human history of the ethnic groups in the middle east.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I've been laughing for the last ten minutes about "America Stinky."

Kudos, DCL, for the funniest goddamn thing I've read in a while.

TB4p

You're welcome. For more hijinks try the REDWAVER thread. I laughed. I cried. I leaked bodily fluids.

 

[Guest]

You don't have CNN in WestAfrica, do you ?

No. But we get to watch bad German porn for free.

 

[Frimost]

What's Talaban doing in Iraq? Hadn't they been defeted and disbannded in Afganistan? Does this mean Talaban and US are on the same side again?

What the Hell are you talking about?