I've never seen a flogging safe area body chart that included testicles.

[WriterDom]

But I have seen a video of a man in vertical bondage with his legs spread taking a foot to his balls not once but twice from a Domme so hard I'm sure the neighbors felt the impact. And RS said she took a cane to her man's balls.

Now I can't argue the sanity of such play, to each her own, but can anyone comment on the safety side of ball torture?

 

[Sandia]

All I can say is
I'd never let MzChrista tie me up.

 

[artful]

But I have seen a video of a man in vertical bondage with his legs spread taking a foot to his balls not once but twice from a Domme so hard I'm sure the neighbors felt the impact. And RS said she took a cane to her man's balls.

Now I can't argue the sanity of such play, to each her own, but can anyone comment on the safety side of ball torture?

~*SHIVERS*~

 

[SexyChele]

WD - why should a man's testicles be any different than a woman's clitoris? If a woman can take a slapping/beating to her clit, then I should think it only logical that a man can sustain the same for his balls.

It would all come down to pain threshold. Some women can take a tremendous slapping/beating to their clit, others simply cannot. I would think the same holds true for men.

 

[WriterDom]

WD - why should a man's testicles be any different than a woman's clitoris? If a woman can take a slapping/beating to her clit, then I should think it only logical that a man can sustain the same for his balls.

It would all come down to pain threshold. Some women can take a tremendous slapping/beating to their clit, others simply cannot. I would think the same holds true for men.

so how long does a clit "ring" after you get slapped there?

If you don't have balls how can you comment on how they feel?

 

[P. B. Walker]

Mmmm interesting point SexyChele. The main difference I can note is that the clitoris is not a purely reproductive organ like the testicles are. They both can be damaged. I would think that the testicles could be damage much easier due to their make up and vunerability. You can easily break a cord or get the cords wrapped around a testicle, bruise a testicle, or cause one to break open. Worst case, amputation of the testicles. Bad case: sterility. Not so good case: pain for several weeks.

I'm sure it's a legitimate form of play/torture, but for me that would be a hard limit. I can deal the the cock and ball bondage and teasing and all that good stuff, but mmm... no hitting/kicking/flicking/caning... gawd I get the willies just thinking about it. I still hope to one day father a child. LOL Yes I know... scarrrrrryyy thought.

Now... if the man is already sterile or had his tubes cut and didn't care about any possible damage... then I don't really see the harm.

I still have to wonder... how do those guys take that? I mean... a full frontal kick right to the nuts. When (note I said when) I got back up off the floor from vomiting, that person had better be in another state. LOL. A kick to the nuts is the ultimate stopping force for a man. No two ways about it.

Nuff said.

- PBW

 

[SexyChele]

so how long does a clit "ring" after you get slapped there?

Quite a while, actually. And if I wasn't totally prepared for it, it can hurt for a day or so.

If you don't have balls how can you comment on how they feel?

I can't and I didn't - if you read my post. I simply stated that different men might have differing levels of pain thresholds. Some may even want the pain. This sort of logic (not being able to comment on something because one does not have it as part of their anatomy), would mean that male Doms should never, ever slap, pinch, strike or in any other way cause pain to a woman's clit. Hardly think that would work, though, don't you?

*sigh* Okay, point taken. I'll simply go crawl off to whatever corner I'm supposed to be in and only speak when something is specifically directed at me. If you only wish males to respond, then you it might serve you better to put that notice in your first post.

 

[WriterDom]

Most women I've pussy spanked have enjoyed it. I don't see how any male could get deep enough in to sub space to find someone slapping their balls around enjoyable.

Maybe James can comment on ball torture inflicted by male Doms.

 

[WriterDom]

sorry you took it the wrong way Sex. But a man's testicles are different than a woman's clitoris. Uglier for one thing.

 

[Cirrus]

What they said. A woman's clit is actually more physiologically similar to a man's penis than his testicles. In fact, they're both kind of set up the same way.

I testicle can rupture, twist, retract and all sorts of other unpleasant things that a clit, or even a penis, cannot do. The only thing to be careful of (well, major thing) with a penis is fracture. While it contains no bone, the supportive tissues when its erect can be fractured even by vigorous 'nilla sex. I personally would not participate in CBT...I wouldn't want to take the chance of damaging a guy for life, and I too doubt the sanity of it. But hey, I'm not going to tell anyone what to do, either.

 

[Lancecastor]

Three Observations

1. Men are psychologically set up to guard their balls carefully, because:

a) unlike the ovaries, our most delicate reproductive bits are mounted externally;
b) nothing hurts more than a shot to the nuts;
c) our gear defines who we are culturally in a similar way to breasts for women.

2. Whether Risia has actually performed this particular act or not is irrelevant....it froze Writer Dom and other men here in their tracks.

3. I suspect in large part...she has enjoyed seeing the squirming here as much as the actual act, if she's performed it.

Nicely executed head scene, RisiaSkye.



Lance

 

[artful]

I just gotta post to this,...

...terrifying subject matter that it is to ME!!!

Though I have yet to see the day when I subject myself willfully to ANY physical pain,...other than what *I*,...*ME*,...*MYSELF*,...had ABSOLUTE control over, (excercise, work outs, sports, etc.)

I *could* subject myself willingly to have any body part physically assaulted in many ways, (to acheive a desired goal), *E*X*C*E*P*T*, my balls.

Whack my dick,...arms, legs, hands, feet, etc.,...
but my testicles,...NO FUCKING WAY!!! No need to ask me why,...I can't REALLY explain WHY I feel this way.

I can tell you all,...I HAVE experienced pain there,<ahem>,...more than once,...but I assure you it was not something I consented to,...and I hope I never experience it again.

(shiver, vomit, cry, pray, can't fucking breathe, wish for death to come take me away, etc.)

Nope,...never,...never,...never WILLFULLY! Oh BTW
did I say NEVER? Well in case you are in doubt,..
.NEVER,...NEVER,...NEVER!!!

 

[Hot4Heels]

I can get into it if it is a playfull slap with the bottom of a high heeled shoe. Ok I forgot to mention I may have more issues than redears digest. This is not painfull to me. Now hitting and some of this other stuff I just dont think I have seen enough ass to carry it through. Same reason as the other guys. Pain down here is bad. Pain down here makes me psycho.

 

[WriterDom]

Re: I just gotta post to this,...

...terrifying subject matter that it is to ME!!!

Though I have yet to see the day when I subject myself willfully to ANY physical pain,...other than what *I*,...*ME*,...*MYSELF*,...had ABSOLUTE control over, (excercise, work outs, sports, etc.)

I *could* subject myself willingly to have any body part physically assaulted in many ways, (to acheive a desired goal), *E*X*C*E*P*T*, my balls.

Whack my dick,...arms, legs, hands, feet, etc.,...
but my testicles,...NO FUCKING WAY!!! No need to ask me why,...I can't REALLY explain WHY I feel this way.

I can tell you all,...I HAVE experienced pain there,<ahem>,...more than once,...but I assure you it was not something I consented to,...and I hope I never experience it again.

(shiver, vomit, cry, pray, can't fucking breathe, wish for death to come take me away, etc.)

Nope,...never,...never,...never WILLFULLY! Oh BTW
did I say NEVER? Well in case you are in doubt,..
.NEVER,...NEVER,...NEVER!!!

Sorry Art. It was sticking in my mind and posting seemed to rid the demons. I am sorry none of the Dommes took up the safety issue, but I'm cleansed now.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Testicles

I have two subs that can take having their testicles whacked with a cane, flogger, paddle, rider's crop, amonger other things. I have one sub who craves to see his nuts hanging down to the floor, but sense he serves me, I do not find that a pretty picture, so I vetoed that.

Twisting of the testicles is a no no. Also, it is the type of play that some subs cannot take at all. It is not for a new sub, who has not built up the endurance for hard play. it is not good to use at the beginning itis something that you do after your sub is really warmed up and in full slut mode.


As someone posted earlier, the Dom/me must know the sub and his threshhold for pain. It is never done in anger or for punishment. At least not by Me.

Both my boys are hale and hearty...and fertile. And they keep coming back for more, go figure.

Ebonyfire

 

[MzChrista]

All I can say is
I'd never let MzChrista tie me up.

Thats what you say now.

 

[MzChrista]

Re: Testicles

I have two subs that can take having their testicles whacked with a cane, flogger, paddle, rider's crop, amonger other things. I have one sub who craves to see his nuts hanging down to the floor, but sense he serves me, I do not find that a pretty picture, so I vetoed that.

Twisting of the testicles is a no no. Also, it is the type of play that some subs cannot take at all. It is not for a new sub, who has not built up the endurance for hard play. it is not good to use at the beginning itis something that you do after your sub is really warmed up and in full slut mode.


As someone posted earlier, the Dom/me must know the sub and his threshhold for pain. It is never done in anger or for punishment. At least not by Me.

Both my boys are hale and hearty...and fertile. And they keep coming back for more, go figure.

Ebonyfire

Lot of sub guys like that with weights and such like Eb said, making them hang low. But she knows her stuff for sure. You got to know what he can take.
Eb you use a parachute or what?

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Testicles

Lot of sub guys like that with weights and such like Eb said, making them hang low. But she knows her stuff for sure. You got to know what he can take.
Eb you use a parachute or what?

I was taught to use a parachute to hang the weights. he could take 50 lbs of weight.

then we would flog his ass and his balls with the weight hanging from them.

 

[James Blandings]

Most women I've pussy spanked have enjoyed it. I don't see how any male could get deep enough in to sub space to find someone slapping their balls around enjoyable.

Maybe James can comment on ball torture inflicted by male Doms.

i've never been caned on the testicles, and will gladly keep it that way.
In my experience with male Doms using weights is the most common form of ball play. Of course there are other closely related things, uch as clips on the scrotum, clamps that separate the testicles, etc. And I have been flogged there with light floggers. But harder percussion on them is not something I have seen much.

 

[Ebonyfire]

i've never been caned on the testicles, and will gladly keep it that way.
In my experience with male Doms using weights is the most common form of ball play. Of course there are other closely related things, uch as clips on the scrotum, clamps that separate the testicles, etc. And I have been flogged there with light floggers. But harder percussion on them is not something I have seen much.

I have to agree, I have not seen really hard hits, but I have heard about it. My boys seems to like some medium strength whacks but as for crushing or stuff like that, no way, I always think that it is not nice to fool (with) mother nature!

LOL I like my guys with all of their body parts in good working order.

Ebony

 

[Pure]

To some of the squeamish posters:
The tenderness of the testicles is hardly an argument for ignoring them in erotic "punishment". On the contrary. The male vulnerability 'begs' for the dom/me to exploit it (consensually).

Neither are testicles the most sensitive part of the anatomy: If you don't believe it, compare whacking your open eye with a pencil, to the same thing to the testicle.

Safety and continued fertility need to be considered but that's pretty straightforward. Avoid 1)piercing, 2) twisting,
3)crushing/striking to the point of rupture, a danger if a testicle is pressed or caught against a hard surface while being struck; as for example, the pubic bone, when being kicked. Hits which are not too drastic and allow the testicle to move or 'give' are not going to rupture, but the pain might be severe, even last a couple days.

It's been stressed that the master should be aware of the degree of pain. What is easy for one, may be agonizing for another; younger men seem esp. vulnerable.

 

[artful]

Pure

To some of the squeamish posters:
The tenderness of the testicles is hardly an argument for ignoring them in erotic "punishment".

Neither are testicles the most sensitive part of the anatomy: If you don't believe it, compare whacking your open eye with a pencil, to the same thing to the testicle.

I agree with your statement that the testicles are not the most sensitive area of our bodies,...but I think your analogy is OFF track.

Is there any woman who wants her open eye whacked with a pencil? Or how about releasing a frisky little bug in a masochists ear,...or bamboo slivers driven under the finger nails or toe nails, (a form of blood play or piercing right)?

(waiting for a show of hands)

I am not gonna subject myself willingly to any of those practices,...including my TESTICLES,...but hey,...I am not a masochist either.

Whatever floats your boat,...if people see an erotic happening there,...then that's THEIR issue,...but for ME,...it ain't gonna happen.

To me,...I can understand people who wish to experience pain,...but I would sure as hell recommend caution to ANY who want THAT kind of pain.

(JMHO)

 

[superlittlegirl]

I have no testicles, but I'd like to put forth a hypothesis.

I'd bet that the reason balls are so hyper sensitive to being hit or struck is because it's the body's natural defense mechanism to protect them. From what I've heard many men say, even a light bump can be very painful. We can probably assume that such a light amount of contact is not very physically damaging, so the disproportionate amount of pain seems to serve as a warning.

That being said, every person's level of tolerance to pain is subjective. And some people require more pain or intense stimulation to achieve the state of being that they crave. I don't understand extreme CBT personally, and it seems dangerous to me, but I can easily set my personal views aside to acknowledge the joy some men must derive from it. There are a lot of realms of BDSM that I consider way too edgy to participate in. Branding, for example, is a hard limit for me, because I can't imagine that it could be in any way pleasurable. It is just that for many people, though.

I had the good fortune to participate in a scene (as a pro-sub) that involved some very intense CBT. At first, i could not bear to watch-- I had to avert my eyes as his cock and balls were secured to the butterfly board and then whipped with the crop and flicked hard with the hand. Once I became brave enough to watch his face, and see the intense response the CBT was generating, I was able to set my squeamishness and empathy pain aside to enjoy the show. His pleasure made the experience very fulfilling for me, as a spectator, and that surprised me more than I can say.

As for the issue of doing permanent reproductive damage: I'm sure that it's a very real risk, but I'm sure that in a good Domme/sub relationship risk factors for all activities are discussed in detail beforehand. The extreme nature of this kind of play leads me to believe that it might be something that is built up to over a period of time, or specifically requested by the sub who knows what he's getting into. If he is certain that he has evaluated the risks thoroughly, and is aware of the health implications, I can't see any reason he should be denied. Reproduction is undoubtedly an important thing, but it is not a priority for all people. We don't question a man's decision to get a vasectomy, and it is most definitely a deterrent to the reproductive ability. It's all relative.

That being said, I could never do CBT on a sub. I am too empathic, and it would make me cry like a baby to have to hurt someone like that, even if he wanted it. But I'd sure know who to send him to if he wanted it!

--Freya (no cajones)

 

[Ebonyfire]

Never say never

I have no testicles, but I'd like to put forth a hypothesis.

I'd bet that the reason balls are so hyper sensitive to being hit or struck is because it's the body's natural defense mechanism to protect them. From what I've heard many men say, even a light bump can be very painful. We can probably assume that such a light amount of contact is not very physically damaging, so the disproportionate amount of pain seems to serve as a warning.

That being said, every person's level of tolerance to pain is subjective. And some people require more pain or intense stimulation to achieve the state of being that they crave. I don't understand extreme CBT personally, and it seems dangerous to me, but I can easily set my personal views aside to acknowledge the joy some men must derive from it. There are a lot of realms of BDSM that I consider way too edgy to participate in. Branding, for example, is a hard limit for me, because I can't imagine that it could be in any way pleasurable. It is just that for many people, though.

I had the good fortune to participate in a scene (as a pro-sub) that involved some very intense CBT. At first, i could not bear to watch-- I had to avert my eyes as his cock and balls were secured to the butterfly board and then whipped with the crop and flicked hard with the hand. Once I became brave enough to watch his face, and see the intense response the CBT was generating, I was able to set my squeamishness and empathy pain aside to enjoy the show. His pleasure made the experience very fulfilling for me, as a spectator, and that surprised me more than I can say.

As for the issue of doing permanent reproductive damage: I'm sure that it's a very real risk, but I'm sure that in a good Domme/sub relationship risk factors for all activities are discussed in detail beforehand. The extreme nature of this kind of play leads me to believe that it might be something that is built up to over a period of time, or specifically requested by the sub who knows what he's getting into. If he is certain that he has evaluated the risks thoroughly, and is aware of the health implications, I can't see any reason he should be denied. Reproduction is undoubtedly an important thing, but it is not a priority for all people. We don't question a man's decision to get a vasectomy, and it is most definitely a deterrent to the reproductive ability. It's all relative.

That being said, I could never do CBT on a sub. I am too empathic, and it would make me cry like a baby to have to hurt someone like that, even if he wanted it. But I'd sure know who to send him to if he wanted it!

--Freya (no cajones)

Each person has the things they would rather not do, but if you could see the reaction of a sub in CBT, you might give it a try.

Ebony

 

[superlittlegirl]

Re: Never say never

Each person has the things they would rather not do, but if you could see the reaction of a sub in CBT, you might give it a try.

Ebony

That's the thing, though. I did see the reaction of that one sub, and once I was able to overcome the initial wrenching gut-reaction I had, I was able to enjoy his response thoroughly. I was able to observe the buildup of his arousal, and the subsequent massive release, and it was beautiful. Poetic, even. Definitely sensual, in a very unconventional way. My suspicion is, though, that even though I enjoyed being a spectator, I would have severe reservations about inflicting that kind of pain on a person myself. I'd probably give it a try, just to push my limits as an individual, but it would be difficult for me.

--Freya