I've figured it all out, and it's easy.

[Guest]

As a living, thinking human 'we all come with' - energy.

What energy? Sounds bogus, and it is - kind of.

And yes, ah hah - that's where this concept gets a bit tricky. This 'energy' - it's not an aura, not a vibe - nope, not even a soul. In fact this 'energy' is - to all of us very mortal humans - indescribable. But it's there and we all have it - we emit it - we do battle with it and we harbor it.

Within us, within our being - this 'energy' is all that is good - all that is bad - all that is right and all that is wrong - and everything in between - all in a constant whirlwind of consternation and flux - indefinable 'change' if you will..........

Change. Yes, our energy is always changing, moving, balancing, twisting and turning. And - 'it's our fate, our goal, our destiny' - to move with it - in 'hopefull' and postive direction. A positive direction that will further our mortal lives in a positive way. A contributional way. A collective way - toward 'our' society as a whole.

Because you see - all of our 'energies' (for lack of any term we might be even close to understanding) are threaded/joined together. And our 'positive engeries' all linked together - aid in the furthering of our entire society. This collective of positive human energy, sort of 'protects' our individual energies - especially if they 'are alike,' and they are positive.

Again - change? Change is an absolute requirement. Since everything about and around us humans changes - so must 'the energy' within all of us humans. Without change or with human reluctance to change - we stagnate. We stagnate as individuals and we aid in 'slowing down the postive,' slowing the communal growth toward a postive furture - that 'is so desired' by most all 'normal' humans. Most of us call it 'happiness.'

Most of us recognize 'a positive energy person.' And we recognize the opposite too. It's easy - a truly postive person radiates happiness. People like to be around a happy, positive person. People gravitate toward a happy person. We like to read about happy people. Yes, we do want to be happy people.

And remember 'change?' Change becomes very important in human life. The phrase 'rolling with the punches' comes to my mind. We must, in order to maintain a positive energy - change. Especially when hardship befalls any of us.

So regarding change - anything adhered to on this earth contrary to change - most organized religions for example - would tend to work contrary to the common goal - the common happiness - of us all. Most religions and humans who choose to adhere to them do so unwittingly - of course. None the less - they actually promote stagnation and therefore hinder happiness.

And when we die? Well, we do live on - kind of. Our energy - most especially positive energy is absorbed into the greater whole of those who have passed before. An endless sea of human energy. We also live on in the memories of those still living the mortal life - who may have loved us and known us in our own mortal lives.

But that is all - when you're dead - you're pretty much dead.

There now, you see how easy that is?

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Well, there it went again.....

the board kicked me off once again.

El fuck-O.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Don't worry, Spark. We knew it was you. You're the only one who could manage to make sense and still be completely incomphrensible all at the same time.

 

[Guest]

 

[Dhalgren]

Thank you Sparky..

That was really wonderful to read..

Reading thoughts like that.. most of us don’t want to digest something that causes us to grow when it’s hard enough to just staying afloat in this tricky water.

Very inspiring.


[Edited because my sentence read as if I was stoned, heh]

 

[freescorfr]

I'm right there with it all Sparky.
All we need to do is avoid the de-energisers, or refuse to accept them

The energivores.

Good stuff.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Yezzzzzz.

Yezzzzz. Diz shit iz very hard to explain. None of it tangible. None of it provable. None of it easy by any means.

And that is exactly why - from the beginning of our human beginnings - we/us/our forefather's and mother's - have sought systems, easier to understand systems - by which attempts of explaination are more palatable for our rather simple minds.

These systems (religions) have grown by stature or historic weight. They grow in numbers only. They really don't grow philosophically. They really don't 'feed the mind.' And they don't change - much. Look at the Catholic church.

For lack of any belief at all - I choose to believe what I have only attempted to explain above. And the reasons I choose to believe in this is - because it makes sense to me. Most religions don't make any sense to me at all. Also, in this belief - there is a thought of 'higher existence,' it's just not very individually sophisticated.

The only trick in life is to survive 'this one shot deal' and maintain as much 'happiness' (positive energy) as possible in the face of so much 'unhappiness' (negative energy).

And I guess - anyway you can find to do that - is good.

However - if 'your way' does not allow for relatively swift 'change' toward maintenance of your positive energy - then I would suggest that 'your system' may be doing you more harm (over all) than good.

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Sparky, I have to tell you I always enjoy your posts!
Very well said, and on an erotica board too. This is why I can't leave Lit. for too long, really good mind fucks!

It amazes me that something so simple as energy, is actually not simple.

 

[riff]

Is anyone familiar with the concept of "chi?"

I am not, but doesn't it mean lifeforce? Is this what you mean, Sparky?

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Is anyone familiar with the concept of "chi?"

Chi is essentially energy. There is inner chi and there is outer chi. Sparky basically is describing Chi. So basically we are constantly interacting with Chi, in others, in ourselves, in nature, and even in the urban jungle. Ever felt uneasy in a certain part of town? Very bad Chi there. When you know someone is lying to you? You are interpreting their Chi. Love is good Chi, and sometimes Sex is amazing Chi!
(my housemate - aka SirenSong - helped me to phrase this properly as I have only had one cup of coffee so far and I can not discuss philosophy coherently when I am unleaded.)

 

[fanzee1]

the coffee-philosophy connection

Chi is essentially energy. There is inner chi and there is outer chi. Sparky basically is describing Chi. So basically we are constantly interacting with Chi, in others, in ourselves, in nature, and even in the urban jungle. Ever felt uneasy in a certain part of town? Very bad Chi there. When you know someone is lying to you? You are interpreting their Chi. Love is good Chi, and sometimes Sex is amazing Chi!
(my housemate - aka SirenSong - helped me to phrase this properly as I have only had one cup of coffee so far and I can not discuss philosophy coherently when I am unleaded.)

Hmm, maybe there is something to those cups of coffee. Best philosophy prof i ever had sucked down a thermos full during his first class every day. Coincidence? Seriously though, the concept of Chi is a fascinating one because it acknowledges the dynamic between individuals and their surroundings. If two people are together in a room for an hour and suddenly a third person arrives, the energy is that room does change. Then put all 3 in a new room and it changes again. Change one of the people involved to another person and it changes again. Chi calls our attention to this. It can be fascinating.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Please don't get me wrong.

I know nothing of philosphy - or for that matter anything at all.

I am (as far as anything meaningful at all) entirely self-taught - at nearly everything.

I'm not much of a 'sit in a class, put yer nose in a book' scholor.

Fact is I can't stand it, can't stand 'being taught' - I can't sit still listening to (with rare exception) morons, making diddly squat change, yanking their ego driven cranks for equally vapid audiences.)

(Of course all you opposites on this board can tell from my poor spelling and grammar that I speak the truth about myself - but of course I don't care that I can't spell.)

I am interested in tons of shit. And 'if' I can find 'a way' to learn it on my own - I will.

So with all that clear - know that all I say is self-driven, self-learned - spew, as I call it.

You might call it bullshit.

And that's exactly how I would want anyone to take it - bullshit.

I mean, life is bullshit. However, it can be 'positive' bullshit - if you allow yourself to 'try.'

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Re: Please don't get me wrong.

I know nothing of philosphy - or for that matter anything at all.

I am (as far as anything meaningful at all) entirely self-taught - at nearly everything.

I'm not much of a 'sit in a class, put yer nose in a book' scholor.

Fact is I can't stand it, can't stand 'being taught' - I can't sit still listening to (with rare exception) morons, making diddly squat change, yanking their ego driven cranks for equally vapid audiences.)

(Of course all you opposites on this board can tell from my poor spelling and grammar that I speak the truth about myself - but of course I don't care that I can't spell.)

I am interested in tons of shit. And 'if' I can find 'a way' to learn it on my own - I will.

So with all that clear - know that all I say is self-driven, self-learned - spew, as I call it.

You might call it bullshit.

And that's exactly how I would want anyone to take it - bullshit.

I mean, life is bullshit. However, it can be 'positive' bullshit - if you allow yourself to 'try.'

Sometimes being "uneducated" can be make one incredibly enlightened. Sorry to tell you Sparky, but you are smart as shit!

 

[riff]

Nothing wrong with self-education. As a "teacher" who believes that as I teach so I am taught, I have come to the way of thinking that there is not anything worth learning that can be taught.

We are our own teachers.

Greenie, thanks for the summary of Chi. It came up because I mentioned to a friend that when I play my guitar I often break into a sweat and get really hot even though I am not physically working hard. She said that this energy going out was my "chi."

Now if only I could better channel it into the damned guitar and less thru my sweat glands. hehehe

 

[Dhalgren]

Enlightenment doesn’t come from a bottle they pour down you at school…

It comes from within..

A man sitting in a cave right this now, could have the most clear understanding of himself and his relation to the Cosmos without ever sitting in a classroom.

Different cultures have come up with different names to describe this..

Chi, Tao, Kundalini…simply put, positive energy.

 

[sch00lteacher]

You're in good company with your energy theory Sparky. Einstein believed in what you said, along the same lines anyhow. I believe it too. We are energy. Energy once it is, never stops being.

 

[phrodeau]

Bullshit is an excellent fertilizer.

 

[Dhalgren]

You find that having positive energy within yourself ..radiating out to others..bullshit?

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Chi

I agree with those who suggested Chi as a name for the energy.. I've been told that it means lifeforce, and vampyrists (those who follow and embrace vampyre lore) equate Chi with lifeblood, which is not only blood but the energy that is held within the blood. One can bleed without losing lifeblood, but once one loses their lifeblood, they are dead.
Anyway, yes, back to Chi.. to me, it's always seemed to be that unnamable energy that Spark described, and when I read his post, I first thought of Chi, and then thought of tempering Chi, etc. To me, it is the energy, the essence of life. It is eternal, it melds with other chi when the bearer of it passes away. It is closely tied to Kharma, in that those people with good chi have and spread good kharma, those with bad chi, receive bad kharma. Energy within a human being is very directly tied to the energy of the cosmos. And humans are forever tied together, as one.

Good book to Read: My Teacher Flunked the Planet (it's part of the My Teacher is an Alien series).

I gotta tell you, I was about 10 when I read the series, and when I read that last book, I couldn't believe how much I'd learned from it about humanity. Of course, it's fiction, but the ideas put forward by the author deserve some attention and thought. I have the entire series, and I still read it, to this day. Excellent.

 

[riff]

You find that having positive energy within yourself ..radiating out to others..bullshit?

The question is, Dhalgren, is that "bullshit" is an excellent fertilizer.

You can't take it with you.

Think of the irony of what he said.

 

[Dhalgren]

Excellent observation, riff.

Thank you.
~smiles~

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

You can't take it with you.......

is so important 'to know' in this short life.

If 'this here energy theory' has any truth to it in the end though - you can take 'negative' energy with you - and that's not for me. I only want to eminate positive energy when my body quits on me. I want to share that positive energy. I want to add to the whole of positive energy.

I mean - that's all I can possibly hope for or want. All the rest - all 'the stuff" in my little, meger here and now - fun as some of it may be - is bullshit.

And all this stuff - all this bullshit - all this crap that 'is' - all this mung that threads through all of our lives - every hurdle, every deadend, every leap of faith, every broken heart - is 'in all of our ends' bullshit.

But that's what makes it all so interesting - isn't it?

Oh the simple irony of life - living life - and then.......

death. Hah! Makes me smile, I find it so funny. Want a bunch of horseshit. Oh excuse me - bullshit.

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Could not have said it better myself.
Now, if I could only follow the everything is bullshit philosophy more closely, life would be easier.