It's still the sun stupid

[TurdFergeson]

Very interesting.

I don't really know what to believe about atmospheric Co2 concentrations anymore.

For one thing, if the Co2 gets really high, wouldn't that be a boost to all plant life? Thereby plants would simply get huge and create more oxygen, returning Earth to natural equilibreum?

But, the activites of man MUST have some impact on climate, at least regionally, if not globally.

Deforestation on a massive scale, greenhouse gasses, urban hot zones where everything is paved over, etc.

 

[Sean]

Well lookie here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7327393.stm

 

[Ishmael]

It's still the Sun stupid.

And I want to hear exactly how carbon taxes are going to fix it.

Ishmael

 

[Adre]

Bumping six year old threads to start arguments. A sure sign you need a life.

 

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[Ishmael]

Bumping six year old threads to start arguments. A sure sign you need a life.

Is it on topic? Yup.

Did I start a new thread to get the update posted? Nope.

Are you still as lame as ever? Yup.

Ishmael

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's still the Sun stupid.

And I want to hear exactly how carbon taxes are going to fix it.

Ishmael

So you're expecting 2014 to be a cold year? Even though it's safe to say 2013 won't go down as a cold year when the final data comes around?

 

[Ishmael]

So you're expecting 2014 to be a cold year? Even though it's safe to say 2013 won't go down as a cold year when the final data comes around?

The satellite data has already come around and it was cooler.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It is still a chaotic system.





Like many other things that we try to solve linearly with government Interferences...

I am not an economist. I am an economic historian. The economist seeks to simplify the world into mathematical models - in Krugman's case models erected upon the intellectual foundations laid by John Maynard Keynes. But to the historian, who is trained to study the world "as it actually is", the economist's model, with its smooth curves on two axes, looks like an oversimplification. The historian's world is a complex system, full of non-linear relationships, feedback loops and tipping points. There is more chaos than simple causation. There is more uncertainty than calculable risk. For that reason, there is simply no way that anyone - even Paul Krugman - can consistently make accurate predictions about the future. There is, indeed, no such thing as the future, just plausible futures, to which we can only attach rough probabilities. This is a caveat I would like ideally to attach to all forward-looking conjectural statements that I make. It is the reason I do not expect always to be right. Indeed, I expect often to be wrong. Success is about having the judgment and luck to be right more often than you are wrong.

Niall Ferguson

http://www.niallferguson.com/journalism/miscellany/krugtron-the-invincible-part-3

 

[Ishmael]

Cooler equals drier, how's that working out in CA. and elsewhere?

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Now you're just talking about weather.

WE'RE talking about MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE!!!