It's official, they lost their collective minds!

[Guest]

I'm sorry but i disagree with this tactic. You can NOT tell me that a six year old child can not be contained safely without putting them in handcuffs. And...how can a child be guilty of resisting arrest if they have been told all their lives to never go with strangers?!

THIS: 6 Year Old Arrested
is enough to make me gag.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Very sad.

 

[CharleyH]

I'm sorry but i disagree with this tactic. You can NOT tell me that a six year old child can not be contained safely without putting them in handcuffs. And...how can a child be guilty of resisting arrest if they have been told all their lives to never go with strangers?!

THIS: 6 Year Old Arrested
is enough to make me gag.

Well now calm down Vella ... there is an "Excocrist" tinge to this story I am sure.

 

[buxxxom]

I'm sorry but i disagree with this tactic. You can NOT tell me that a six year old child can not be contained safely without putting them in handcuffs. And...how can a child be guilty of resisting arrest if they have been told all their lives to never go with strangers?!

THIS: 6 Year Old Arrested
is enough to make me gag.

I think a lawsuit is in order.

 

[Elsie Grey]

Thats awful! Theres no way handcuffs should have been needed. Whatever she was doing she didn't need that kind of treatment!

Elsie

xxx

 

[Guest]

Well now calm down Vella ... there is an "Excocrist" tinge to this story I am sure.

well hell sweetie, if you were going all insane-o...id have no problems tying you up and having my way with you...

you, however, are not 6.

 

[Guest]

Thats awful! Theres no way handcuffs should have been needed. Whatever she was doing she didn't need that kind of treatment!

Elsie

xxx

agreed. while working in healthcare, ive had to 'restrain' kids for lots of different reasons and never did i think law enforcement was needed.

hell, ive had to bear hug my eldest child once when she was wild. i just cant see the reason for the excessive use of 'force'...

we are a nation of weinerheads. *sigh*

 

[Elsie Grey]

I used to have a special needs child and he occasionally needed restraining, but a bear hug is more than enough on a small child. I have also seen 3 teachers restrain a very violent older child (I'd guess he was 9 or so) and again no handcuffs or anything were needed... Madness, absolute madness!

Elsie

xxx

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I'm sorry but i disagree with this tactic. You can NOT tell me that a six year old child can not be contained safely without putting them in handcuffs. And...how can a child be guilty of resisting arrest if they have been told all their lives to never go with strangers?!

THIS: 6 Year Old Arrested
is enough to make me gag.

So what would you have done?

 

[Emperor_Nero]

agreed. while working in healthcare, ive had to 'restrain' kids for lots of different reasons and never did i think law enforcement was needed.

hell, ive had to bear hug my eldest child once when she was wild. i just cant see the reason for the excessive use of 'force'...

we are a nation of weinerheads. *sigh*

It's all part of our litiginous society. Teachers are afraid to end up being sued and/or fired because someone claims they "touched" one of these kids, so they don't deal with disruptive students or even break up fights in the hallway or on the playground anymore ... they just call the police. In fact, many schools are having police officers assigned to campus, just in case something happens. Sad, but true. Then the police were just following procedure, as anyone arrested is supposed to be cuffed -- even if it's just a traffic thing, if you get hauled in, they are supposed to cuff you. Again, sad, but true.

 

[Guest]

So what would you have done?

honestly, you cant say with 100% certainty what you would do in any situation, however, i do knwo that i would have tried to restrain the child before calling the cops.
ive been hit by a six year old thats been out of control. isolate them, calm them down and talk with them after they're spent.

at that age, there is almost never a need for handcuffs or police.

 

[Guest]

I'm sorry but i disagree with this tactic. You can NOT tell me that a six year old child can not be contained safely without putting them in handcuffs. And...how can a child be guilty of resisting arrest if they have been told all their lives to never go with strangers?!

THIS: 6 Year Old Arrested
is enough to make me gag.

I would like to know more about this.

In normal situations, this would seem excessive. But we don't know the history of this child's behavior. Was she a danger to other children? If my child was attending the same school and could have been injured by this child's tantrums you'd better believe they should remove her from the situation.

School officials were probably afraid to discipline the child, fearing legal action, so when they could not reach the parent they called the police.

Sad situation all the way around.

 

[Guest]

It's all part of our litiginous society. Teachers are afraid to end up being sued and/or fired because someone claims they "touched" one of these kids, so they don't deal with disruptive students or even break up fights in the hallway or on the playground anymore ... they just call the police. In fact, many schools are having police officers assigned to campus, just in case something happens. Sad, but true. Then the police were just following procedure, as anyone arrested is supposed to be cuffed -- even if it's just a traffic thing, if you get hauled in, they are supposed to cuff you. Again, sad, but true.

true to a certain extent. yes, very sad.

if a kid gets out of control...specially one that hasnt had outbursts before, isolation and time is all it takes to gain control.

 

[Guest]

I would like to know more about this.

In normal situations, this would seem excessive. But we don't know the history of this child's behavior. Was she a danger to other children? If my child was attending the same school and could have been injured by this child's tantrums you'd better believe they should remove her from the situation.

School officials were probably afraid to discipline the child, fearing legal action, so when they could not reach the parent they called the police.

Sad situation all the way around.

id like to know more as well. i dont understand how a grown up couldnt call the office for help and isolate this child. im really perplexed.

 

[impressive]

So what would you have done?

Calling law enforcement on very young students is a tactic promoted by many school districts these days -- not as a means of controlling the students' behavior, but as a means of controlling the parents'

Faced with a choice between a criminal record and a segregated educational placement, which do you think a parent will choose? Few parents understand that it's not an either/or decision and even fewer have the skills/resources to fight the system.

It's administratively convenient, after all, for "problem" children to be clustered in one classroom. Nevermind that it's akin to educational malpractice. Our schools (at the admin level) are not concerned about cranking out productive, law abiding citizens. Their priorities are far more short-term.

 

[Chantilyvamp]

All I can say is OMFG! That poor kid...even if she was out of control there are ways of dealing with that without resorting to handcuffing and charging her with a felony and 2 misdeameanors.

 

[Elsie Grey]

true to a certain extent. yes, very sad.

if a kid gets out of control...specially one that hasnt had outbursts before, isolation and time is all it takes to gain control.

Some of the schools round here have 'quiet rooms' where out of control pupils get taken to regain there composure. It works wonders and quite often the words 'well I'm sorry but if you do that then we need to visit the quiet room' are enough to head off the difficult behaviour.

Elsie

xxx

 

[CharleyH]

well hell sweetie, if you were going all insane-o...id have no problems tying you up and having my way with you...

you, however, are not 6.

True, yet I do think there is a value in this scenario. SHE AIN'T NEVER gonna do it again. Her parents fighting about it damages her sense of right and wrong and is futile in making her a better person - let it ride I say. She got caught, has a hard lesson to consider and one that won't hurt her future chances. If she learns the lesson then it will make her stronger. If she thinks she can get away with it? Well, put alarms in your house cause she'll be coming after your goods.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

honestly, you cant say with 100% certainty what you would do in any situation, however, i do knwo that i would have tried to restrain the child before calling the cops.
ive been hit by a six year old thats been out of control. isolate them, calm them down and talk with them after they're spent.

at that age, there is almost never a need for handcuffs or police.

I don't think we are getting the "whole" story.

I do think it's pretty Draconian to charge a 6 year old with resisting arrest, and to book her into jail.

What I don't understand is why the mother wasn't called by the school. That perplexes me.

 

[R. Richard]

I think you people are overlooking the obvious.

1) A child is sent to school and is put under the control of a teacher(s).

2) The child gets out of control and the teacher(s) decide that they can't control the child. [They can't do their job.]

3) The police are called and they can contol the child. Only sometimes do the handcuff and charge the child with a creime(s).

What can we learn from this process? THINK! What is the hall mark of a scumbag? Right, a doughut! All that the teacher(s) needed to do was to give the child a doughnut. Simple.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I think you people are overlooking the obvious.

1) A child is sent to school and is put under the control of a teacher(s).

2) The child gets out of control and the teacher(s) decide that they can't control the child. [They can't do their job.]

3) The police are called and they can contol the child. Only sometimes do the handcuff and charge the child with a creime(s).

What can we learn from this process? THINK! What is the hall mark of a scumbag? Right, a doughut! All that the teacher(s) needed to do was to give the child a doughnut. Simple.

Huh?...

 

[Guest]

True, yet I do think there is a value in this scenario. SHE AIN'T NEVER gonna do it again. Her parents fighting about it damages her sense of right and wrong and is futile in making her a better person - let it ride I say. She got caught, has a hard lesson to consider and one that won't hurt her future chances. If she learns the lesson then it will make her stronger. If she thinks she can get away with it? Well, put alarms in your house cause she'll be coming after your goods.

i strongly disagree, beautiful.
this will have far reaching implications for this child and every other child who witnessed it. dont for one moment believe that it will go away quietly for any of them. things like this have a tendency to stigmatize.

what if you're wrong? what if she believes from this one action that she can never be 'good'? its assigning an entire mindset.


like many have said, we don't know the entire story and we may never know it.

 

[S-Des]

honestly, you cant say with 100% certainty what you would do in any situation, however, i do knwo that i would have tried to restrain the child before calling the cops.
ive been hit by a six year old thats been out of control. isolate them, calm them down and talk with them after they're spent.

at that age, there is almost never a need for handcuffs or police.

Yes, but that is assuming way too much. You have to assume that the parents are reasonable. Many parents (especially ones of out of control children) will scream about the mistreatment of their "babies" before they will ever consider asking what really happened. You think I'm exaggerating? I was firmly instructed never to touch a child (quite a feat for someone teaching guitar privately) by the owner of the store I work at. A piano teacher adjusted a students hand during a lesson once, and the store got a phone call from a lawyer a week later. You think that parent would have been OK with you grabbing a 6 year-old in a bear hug?

There was a very famous case involving parent overreaction where a white teacher, fresh out of college, gave out alternative books to her students to help them learn. It was an inner city school, mostly minority, and one of the parents was shocked when she read the book (which she perceived as racist). The very next day, the principle asked the teacher to leave her classroom and wait in the office for her own safety. There was an emergency parents meeting/lynch mob in the gym, screaming about the racist teacher, involving a lot of foul language, threats, and racial epithets. The teacher thought to explain herself to the group, stuck her head in the gym, and immediately ran back to the office where she called her fiancee in tears, begging him to please come get her immediately. She quit and never went back.

The book...was written by an African American educator and was supposed to instill racial pride in children. Although I agree this seems abominable, good luck with restraining a child who's not yours.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

This is an old story, it happened months ago. It's sad that the Imperial Government Indoctrination Centers can't control the children without the help of the police or drugs. Instead of call the parents to come control their child, the police are called so now the courts get to handle how these things are disposed.

 

[Guest]

Yes, but that is assuming way too much. You have to assume that the parents are reasonable. Many parents (especially ones of out of control children) will scream about the mistreatment of their "babies" before they will ever consider asking what really happened. You think I'm exaggerating? I was firmly instructed never to touch a child (quite a feat for someone teaching guitar privately) by the owner of the store I work at. A piano teacher adjusted a students hand during a lesson once, and the store got a phone call from a lawyer a week later. You think that parent would have been OK with you grabbing a 6 year-old in a bear hug?

There was a very famous case involving parent overreaction where a white teacher, fresh out of college, gave out alternative books to her students to help them learn. It was an inner city school, mostly minority, and one of the parents was shocked when she read the book (which she perceived as racist). The very next day, the principle asked the teacher to leave her classroom and wait in the office for her own safety. There was an emergency parents meeting/lynch mob in the gym, screaming about the racist teacher, involving a lot of foul language, threats, and racial epithets. The teacher thought to explain herself to the group, stuck her head in the gym, and immediately ran back to the office where she called her fiancee to please come get her immediately. She quit and never went back.

The book...was written by an African American educator and was supposed to instill racial pride in children. Although I agree this seems abominable, good luck with restraining a child who's not yours.

no, i dont think you are exaggerating, however i was suggesting more of isolation than bear hugs.
it works and whats really cool is that if you get the child in the 'quiet' situation without restraining them you can get across much more than show of force.

also, i want to know how a 6 year old can be guilty of a crime such as resisting arrest? this is way over kill.