Its all about Choices, Actions and Consequences

Mr. Niceguy

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Let me state that I don’t believe in abortion. I think that it is murder. I feel in many cases its used as a form of birth control. That’s just my view and my opinion. Everyone has choices in their lives and the free agency to act on those choices. They also reap the consequences. People will argue that it is a women’s right to choose to abort or carry the child. It is her right to choose. If her two choices are to have or not have sex. People should refrain from extra marital relations if they can’t afford the consequences of their actions. It’s not their right to kill the child growing her womb.

I know I'm gonna get a bunch of hate mail for this but I would just like to discuss others views on the subject.
 
What about....

The woman who didn't Choose to have sex but is now burdened with carrying in her womb, a reminder of the time her dignity and security were violently ripped from her as some stranger shot his disgusting foul fluid into her?


What about....

The 14 year old girl who's Daddy forgot to pull out?


What about....

The drugged up junkie who will beat , abuse, neglect and eventually abandon the baby once born?



I have not nor would I ever have an abortion....although I have been faced with the choice of doing so. I was pregnant at 16 due to a choice I made...I chose to deal with it and face my consequences. I am now blessed with a wonderful family including my 12 year old daughter. I do not believe that anybody has the right to take this option away from women....especially ones who didn't choose to be in that situation to begin with.
 
Why is it so many more men than women are opposed to a woman's right to choose? A woman's body isn't their domain.

Abortion is a personal decision that's nobody's business.
 
I think..

It may have to do with the fact that when it is legal (abortion) men have absolutely no control over this area.

And I think that annoys a lot of men to be entirely cut out of the loop. Powerlessness scares some men. Wimps.

Getting a woman pregnant is no sign of virility or manliness. Any idiot can do that...it takes a man to raise the child. If ya don't like abortion be prepared to help raise the result.

If you don't agree with abortion don't have one...let others have the same freedom.

If it ain't yours its nunya...


nunya bizniss!
 
Again

Adoratrice said:
What about....

The woman who didn't Choose to have sex but is now burdened with carrying in her womb, a reminder of the time her dignity and security were violently ripped from her as some stranger shot his disgusting foul fluid into her?


What about....

The 14 year old girl who's Daddy forgot to pull out?


What about....

The drugged up junkie who will beat , abuse, neglect and eventually abandon the baby once born?



I have not nor would I ever have an abortion....although I have been faced with the choice of doing so. I was pregnant at 16 due to a choice I made...I chose to deal with it and face my consequences. I am now blessed with a wonderful family including my 12 year old daughter. I do not believe that anybody has the right to take this option away from women....especially ones who didn't choose to be in that situation to begin with.


Sorry, I just felt that needed repeating. However I think there should also be some sort of way to stop those women who DO abuse abortion rights as a means of birth control. I know someone like that, unfortunately. However I'm quite sure they can find a way to fix that.
 
I wouldn't have an abortion. If a friend of mine was in a position (through her own actions, not forced) where she had to make a choice and wanted my input, I would advise her to choose parenthood or adoption over abortion because that's my personal view of the matter. If she chose to have an abortion anyway, sure I'd be sad but I wouldn't stop being a friend. If the woman in question had gotten pregnant as a result of rape, I would advise her to do whatever she had to to put the awful experience behind her. Again, this is only if I was asked. If not asked, I'd keep my mouth shut.

I wouldn't vote to remove a woman's choice. If I honestly thought the issue was soley about whether or not terminating a pregnancy is murder I would have a different opinion, however I think there is more to it. I think controlling reproduction is another way to control women. I would like to believe we live in a society where sexism no longer exists, but I've seen too much first-hand evidence to the contrary.

I'm not arrogant enough to believe it's my place to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. I wouldn't want to see my opinion legislated and here is why: the person who ends up stuck with the consequences is the woman in question. If I'm not going to be there by her side, supporting her and her child (like the man in the equation -should- be doing but isn't) then I'm not going to force her into that situation in the first place.

It's odd to me that the same people crying out about how unfair it is to support all these single mothers on welfare are often the same ones crying out for legislation that will create more of them. I'd rather see tougher legislation for dead-beat dads who don't support their kids. Yes, a woman has a choice to either have or not have pre-marital unprotected sex. So does a man. Why aren't the guys called to task for what they've done? Why are the women who get put in these positions considered sluts while the guys are... what, just boys being boys? I think more men are against abortion than women because what do they have to lose? They can walk away from what they've done. And because too many of them do, I support a woman's right to walk away, too.
 
Choices to be made. Never by men though

OK fact is on absortion I am for it. Why because sometimes in the heat of passion people make mistakes. A friend of mine (whose name I do not want to expose) had an abortion at 15 years old because she knew what kind of mother she would be. Who are we to judge. What gives us the right to tell women they do not have a choice in the matter. That oops they get pregnant and the dad does not want to stick around so now it is on you. As a man I know it is not place to tell my lady or any other woman how she should feel and what she should do in that case. Some people are not ready to be parents not now not next year and for damn sure they would not be ready in 9 months.

Fact of the matter is not mine or any other man's place to make that choice. It is on the women to do that. After all how would it feel to know that you raising the child of rapist or that stupid frat boy you got drunk and had a one night stand with. Think about it
 
speaking medically here

Before abortion was legal it was still performed. Not cleanly, safely or with aftercare that preserved the woman's life. With HIV, the various forms of Hepatitis and other problems running loose in this world, does anyone REALLY think removing the legal "permission" would save any lives?

Condoms break, spermicides lose their effectiveness, the pill does fail. You can't legislate the chemistry of pharmacology on any one person. Why try to legislate their bodies on any other level?
 
Rape, incest, too young, too poor....I'm pro-choice, it's up to the woman...

Vlad
 
Arguments are moot...

Nobody owns a woman. Not her husband. Not her lover. Not her children. Not her parents. Not the Republicans. Not the Church. NOBODY. Abortion isn't even an issue. A woman's choices are hers alone.
 
If i wnat a politicain between my thighs, I'll become a White House intern. Until then, I think that politicains, and mostly MALE politicians should get their noses out of a woman's business and leave the choice there.

I admit there are some who abuse the right, but there is that everywhere in the world, not just in this area. I could never personally have an abortion, but if it ever came right down to it, I would want that right to be there fr ME to make the descision, not for some Washington stuffed shirt to decide the next 18 years of my life.

For those who oppose abortion, let me ask you this. Where would you propose to put the babies born to drug addicts? You know the ones. Babies born addicted to drugs and unable to develop properly. Babies that will never be able to care for themselves. Babies who will always be taken care of by someone else and who will never have a chance to decide if they want to be a doctor or a teacher or a vegetable sitting in an institution somewhere with someone caring for them for the rest of their lives?

Babies like that are very hard to place with foster families and adoptive homes. It's hard work and very expensive to raise a child like that. Look at the facts and figures. It's never easy to care for an infant anyhow, and when you throw in one who is going through all that, it's more than the average person can handle.

Again, I reiterate that I wouldn't and couldn't ever have an abortion, but I will fight for the right to have it available to me and any other woman who needs that option available.
 
I,personally, do not believe in abortion for some of the reasons some women think it is necessary. But, I would support a woman or couple who was faced with the fact that their child has been found to have some birth defects which would hinder the child/family from having a productive life.
Pregnancy through rape I think the choice should be left up to the woman, afterall, she is the one who will still have to carry on with the reminder that the child was conceived through an act of violence against her.
As for other issues, it is my opinion that woman who find themselves pregnant, and don't want the child, should look to other alternatives such as adoption. There are many woman out there who are unable to have children, who would make great parents.
 
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