It's a simple Question

To respond to your question, even if your totally unsubstantiated premise was correct, the overriding issue would remain as what should be discussed/changed--the rampant and totally nonsensical availability to the public of weapons of quick and mass extinction that the NRA and the Republican legislators the NRA owns have been stonewalling on.

are GUNZ the issue
 
are GUNZ the issue

No. Access to quick/mass destruction guns is the issue. Those aren't the same issue even though the NRA and the Republican legislators the NRA owns wish to make them the same issue so that nothing sensible can be legislated on this issue. I take it you are one of the stonewallers. If so, can I offer you a couple of free tickets to an outdoor concert? Feel free to take a like-minded friend.

And I take it you are another BB alt who can't get the message that your crap isn't wanted here and who now has to be added to all the other BB alts on ignore.
 
No. Access to quick/mass destruction guns is the issue. Those aren't the same issue even though the NRA and the Republican legislators the NRA owns wish to make them the same issue so that nothing sensible can be legislated on this issue. I take it you are one of the stonewallers. If so, can I offer you a couple of free tickets to an outdoor concert? Feel free to take a like-minded friend.

And I take it you are another BB alt who can't get the message that your crap isn't wanted here and who now has to be added to all the other BB alts on ignore.

No, it's not. That's the issue that the Democratic party leadership wants you to believe, but it's not the problem. If the Democrats keep pushing their anti-gun agenda, they will keep losing elections. Maybe that's cool with you, but it's the reason we've got trump, and if that's ok with you, then own it.

The problem here, is that you had a mentally unstable individual, with means, motive, and opportunity. Talking about "gun control" only addresses one small part of one of those 3 pillars, and ignores the remaining aspects which actually are what matters.
 
No, it's not. That's the issue that the Democratic party leadership wants you to believe, but it's not the problem.

Bullshit. We'll always have mentally unbalanced people (And the Republicans turned most of them out on the street more than a decade ago). We don't always have to let them have weapons that only our military fighting wars should have. Whether or not Democrats can win continuing to oppose the current access by the public to military weapons of mass and quick kill doesn't have a damn thing to do with whether its wrong and everyone with half a brain and half a heart should oppose this. The voters should get out from underneath the thumb of the NRA and put a stop to this nonsense. And you should stop raising false issues to distract from putting a stop to it.
 
Bullshit. We'll always have mentally unbalanced people (And the Republicans turned most of them out on the street more than a decade ago). We don't always have to let them have weapons that only our military fighting wars should have. Whether or not Democrats can win continuing to oppose the current access by the public to military weapons of mass and quick kill doesn't have a damn thing to do with whether its wrong and everyone with half a brain and half a heart should oppose this. The voters should get out from underneath the thumb of the NRA and put a stop to this nonsense. And you should stop raising false issues to distract from putting a stop to it.

No one outside of the military has "military weapons". If you believe that, you're listening to a false narrative. I could explain to you the significant differences, but I doubt you'd listen. You are engaging in an overly emotional line of argument, and it's not something I'm going to give the time of day to.

I am not under the thumb of the NRA, and neither are most of the left-leaning folks that I know that own guns (and the number is significant). The NRA has been forced to trend right, because of the Democrats refusal to accept law-abiding, gun owning constituents. That is why we have Donald Trump as president.

As I said, maybe that's ok with you, but it's not ok with me.
 
Just more of your unconscionable brinkmanship crap.

So you can't actually argue your point, you just throw insults.

That speaks more to the inherent weakness of your argument, than anything else, and you know it.
 
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