It was disappointing but not unexpected to see that...

[p_p_man]

the American 'heavy' newspapers buried reports about the J'burg Conference somewhere in the middle of their enormous editions. Whilst the tabloids rarely mentioned it at all.

If this continues for much longer you'll all be like the children in the 'King and I' who thought that Siam was the biggest, the best and the strongest country in the world.

Beyond the concerns of mortal men.

And look how wrong they were...

ppman

 

[SINthysist]

Yeah, the protestors are pretty pissed at not getting their face time...

 

[SINthysist]

Of course, you know p_p_, if he had gone, the Democrats would have assaulted him with charges such as, Don't you care about what's going on at home? We're in a recession! We're at war (yeah, they actually say that when on the attack, but when Bush acts as commander-in-chief, then suddenly we're not at war...)! You're in bed with the NHRE and the NWO...

 

[p_p_man]

Of course, you know p_p_, if he had gone, the Democrats would have assaulted him with charges such as, Don't you care about what's going on at home? We're in a recession! We're at war (yeah, they actually say that when on the attack, but when Bush acts as commander-in-chief, then suddenly we're not at war...)! You're in bed with the NHRE and the NWO...

NWO?



ppman

 

[SINthysist]

New World Order

The Masons

... I can't say more. They're watching me at all times nowadays...

 

[p_p_man]

New World Order

The Masons

... I can't say more. They're watching me at all times nowadays...

The Masons being the New World Order?

'Cos I'm a Mason.

Yipppeeee...I'm in charge...

ppman

 

[Rex1960]

ok - i'm not shy to give it away ....
i have no idea what a Mason is !!

 

[Gord]

ok - i'm not shy to give it away ....
i have no idea what a Mason is !!

we could tell you but have to shoot you afterwards

 

[p_p_man]

ok - i'm not shy to give it away ....
i have no idea what a Mason is !!

Shhhh! It's a secret.

Well it's meant to be a secret society type of mens' club with secret handshakes, a pledge to always help your fellow brothers (members). It professes to be heavily into Christianity and doing good works for charity but most people I know become a Mason for the good it will do themselves. Especially in business. A Mason always helps another Mason...

ppman

 

[SINthysist]

A dying super-secret fraternal order supposedly dating to way back in European times when the had craftsmen and apprentices. They're supposed to do good work, I don't know all the details, but many, many , many world and US leaders are masons including the Bushes.

It's a fascinating conspiracy theory and suprisingly, I'm not up on it, but I'm sure there are some here whom are probably better aware of more facts...

We still have the reamins of one of the Scottish Rites Temples in our town back from it's heyday. Serves as a city hall now. They built some of those buildings to last forever. In the old tradition.

 

[Rex1960]

Shhhh! It's a secret.

Well it's meant to be a secret society type of mens' club with secret handshakes, a pledge to always help your fellow brothers (members). It professes to be heavily into Christianity and doing good works for charity but most people I know become a Mason for the good it will do themselves. Especially in business. A Mason always helps another Mason...

ppman

now i know

Did I ever tell you I'm a templar chevalier ?? lol

 

[Rex1960]

A dying super-secret fraternal order supposedly dating to way back in European times when the had craftsmen and apprentices. They're supposed to do good work, I don't know all the details, but many, many , many world and US leaders are masons including the Bushes.

It's a fascinating conspiracy theory and suprisingly, I'm not up on it, but I'm sure there are some here whom are probably better aware of more facts...

We still have the reamins of one of the Scottish Rites Temples in our town back from it's heyday. Serves as a city hall now. They built some of those buildings to last forever. In the old tradition.

Sounds like what is called "Freimaurer" in german.

 

[SINthysist]

Yeah, it's roots are deep in the old country, I know that.

You have to act out secret plays as you advance that are supposed to make you grow.

Or be assimilated into the collective, I'm not sure.

 

[Rex1960]

Freemasonry

 

[bored1]

the American 'heavy' newspapers buried reports about the J'burg Conference somewhere in the middle of their enormous editions. Whilst the tabloids rarely mentioned it at all.

If this continues for much longer you'll all be like the children in the 'King and I' who thought that Siam was the biggest, the best and the strongest country in the world.

Beyond the concerns of mortal men.

And look how wrong they were...

ppman

Besides reviewing the great food served served to the delegates at the latest bash America summit, just what were the newspapers suppose to report?

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

the American 'heavy' newspapers buried reports about the J'burg Conference somewhere in the middle of their enormous editions. Whilst the tabloids rarely mentioned it at all.

If this continues for much longer you'll all be like the children in the 'King and I' who thought that Siam was the biggest, the best and the strongest country in the world.

Beyond the concerns of mortal men.

And look how wrong they were...

ppman

If it makes you feel any better, it was on the front page of both the papers that I get..(Washington Post and the Washington Times). The lead was "Powell gets jeered at World Summit". You probably like that too. It's called Jo'burg.

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

Washington Times - Today.

U.S. gets most goals past U.N. summit
By Carter Dougherty and Paul Martin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

American diplomats left the U.N. World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg yesterday with their goals largely fulfilled, despite blistering public criticism from environmental groups and some foreign officials.

Even as activists interrupted a speech by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, the United States managed to win over other countries with strategies for economic development that emphasized private initiative, not government fiat.

The United States gained support partly by opening its wallet, promising $3.6 billion for various economic and social development projects. The money, some of which the Bush administration had promised before the South Africa meeting, was to go for safe drinking water, health care, agriculture and forestry.

"Hecklers get a lot of attention, but I was more impressed by the excellent discussions" with foreign counterparts, Mr. Powell told reporters yesterday.

After his speech, Mr. Powell helped initiate a project to preserve forests along the Congo River and received polite applause. He said he was "very pleased and proud" of what American negotiators achieved during the meeting, which wrapped up yesterday with formal approval of a 65-page list of measures designed to promote environmental and economic well-being.

The fury of environmental groups, who had staged a walkout, was a strong indicator that the American agenda prevailed in key areas during the meeting, a follow-up to the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro.

"Big business and polluting governments like the U.S. have joined forces in Johannesburg once again," said Paul Horsman, spokesman for the environmental group Greenpeace.

The United States suffered setbacks as Canada and Russia announced in Johannesburg that they would ratify the 1997 Kyoto Protocol limiting greenhouse-gas emissions thought to cause global warming. Their assents will allow the pact to take effect, probably sometime next year.

President Bush had denounced the treaty as "fatally flawed" and pulled out of negotiations last year. Other countries kept the Kyoto mission alive, leaving the United States alone among major industrialized nations.

A senior official denied that the United States was isolated over the Kyoto agreement and said the Bush administration had begun talks with China and Russia on other ways to limit greenhouse gases.

American officials also failed to persuade African countries on the brink of famine to accept donations of genetically modified corn. In an interview with The Washington Times, Andrew Natsios, director of the U.S. Agency for International Development, called environmentalists' campaign against gene-spliced corn "revolting and despicable."

But on two points in particular, the United States scored notable successes.

Allied with major oil-producing nations, the United States fought off demands by the 15-nation European Union and other countries to enshrine hard targets in the final declaration for promoting renewable energy.

As a result, the document called for a "substantial increase" in the use of renewables such as wind and solar power, not the mandatory 15 percent increase advocated by Europe.

The United States also won recognition for programs bringing together governments and private groups, such as businesses or academic institutions, in pursuit of the summit's goals.

"Central to this approach is the realization that sustainable development is too big for any government alone or any combination of governments," Mr. Powell said.

A senior U.S. official said this approach allows American tax dollars to be "leveraged" to two or three times their normal value. The official, who asked not to be identified, said the United States would form these partnerships not by imposing its wishes but by listening to the desires of host countries.

"These partnerships will go on beyond Johannesburg and will
breathe life into the text" adopted at the meeting, the official said.

 

[Anais Dahl]

On CNN it is headliner news.

 

[CRaZy]

Australia didn't send its Prime Minister either. We sent one of our less important messengers. By the time he got to speak, most people had left in fear that the protests might get uglier. I don't know how it can get uglier than killer dogs, machine guns and tear gas but there you go. Apparently a lot of representatives also left in disgust before the end of the conference because the US wouldn't sign the Kyoto agreement. I wouldn't call any of that a success as expressed in the CNN report.

Our Prime Minister didn't go by the way, because I suspect he wants to be here to give his rah rah all-the-way-with-Georgie speech when the US asks us to go to war. Sighz.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

I will call the editor of the local paper and let him know just how disappointed you are in him, p_p.

OH and Dubya couldnt go to the summit, he was still on his "working" vacation

 

[Cherry]

It was in all the papers ... PeePee is just being a dolt.


I always thought of the Masons as kind of a Protestant Club ... kind of like the Knights of Columbus is for Catholics.

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

Maybe the best road is the Roman one. Pay Caesar his due, don't threaten Rome and who the heck cares what else you do.