It pays to be careful

It's not like she left a dog or a child in a car in the hot sun while she grocery shopped.

He was a consenting adult male on the patio while she took a shower.

Not that you should ever leave a person tied up without supervision, but I'd like to know what he actually died from.

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This is actually my one big fear about bondage...what if you are tied up and something happens...not even necessarily like this...which was an accident...but something like a natural disaster...or something. What if your PYL was unable to get to you for whatever reason.

Maybe I am just being paranoid...but I live in California...with all our wildfires and earthquakes...it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

I feel bad for this woman. I think this is why people shouldn't jump to fast into bondage. I have no experience with rope and wouldn't dream of tying anybody else up without having someone who knew what they were doing there to instruct me. Besides learning can be just as fun and in the end it can add a lot more to the overall experience...;).
 
Ack! It's Gerald's game in real life, roles reversed.

Oh well, at least he died happy (I 'spose:eek:)
 
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I agree with Netzach. When you're really in the mood you jut beg for it. Natural disasters are not on your mind. I'm not so sure he died happy though, once you start struggling and squirming with your ropes or whatever your mood goes away. I love this scene, but not 24/7. I feel more sorry for her then him. I don't think she should have to sevre time. JMO
 
I've never been comfortable with leaving or being left while in bondage. It just seems like safetywise goes out the window there.
 
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Hi Fury. It is part of the excitement to be left alone bound up, but yeah shit can happen. I'm older now and we don't do as much in this area. As long as the "mood" is there. it is exciting. We never use anything around my neck and she doesn't tape my mouth anymore, but the chance for heart attack and other things are still there. Getting old is a bitch for us subs, but seriously you have to use your heads.
 
I guess we differ in this area. To me being left alone is one of the worst things that someone can do to me, period. I guess I have abandonment issues.

I like another person there with me in my kink or it's blah to me.

OTOH, I am adult and happy to have alone time that isn't sexual.


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I guess we differ in this area. To me being left alone is one of the worst things that someone can do to me, period. I guess I have abandonment issues.

I like another person there with me in my kink or it's blah to me.

OTOH, I am adult and happy to have alone time that isn't sexual.


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I am in complete agreement!...seriously I wouldn't like to be left alone...but like you said...different strokes for different folks.
 
I think the sentence is a bit harsh, but she's still responsible so I think it's only fair that she have to serve time.

Really?

I think a year isn't terribly bad. Sure, it's worse than three months, but considering what someone COULD be sentenced to when death is involved, I think she's pretty fortunate.

IMHO I think the punishment fits the situation.

Not that I don't think it's reasonable for someone to have a fun bondage scene.

Personally, I negotiate to never be left alone when bound.
 
I don't know. I could see this getting a 'misadventure' verdict over here if it could be argued that the wife had no reason to think that his life was endangered and they had done this many times before. I think it was probably her abandonment of him for a short while that got her jailed, although I have no knowledge of the Australian legal system.

They were a bit careless but she said they had done this 'hundreds' of times before and unfortunately that leads to a degree of complacency. It's just human nature.

Very sad though.
 
I don't know. I could see this getting a 'misadventure' verdict over here if it could be argued that the wife had no reason to think that his life was endangered and they had done this many times before. I think it was probably her abandonment of him for a short while that got her jailed, although I have no knowledge of the Australian legal system.

They were a bit careless but she said they had done this 'hundreds' of times before and unfortunately that leads to a degree of complacency. It's just human nature.

Very sad though.

Knowing the Aus legal system, I'd say she would have gotten the sentence to serve as a warning to others. I'm pretty sure there's no misadventure clause here.
People are almost always jailed for causing a death in Australia. Even if they're a saint. I suppose it's becasue our legal system doesn't feel there are such things as an accident. Ie, just because you've driven 5miles over the speed limit your whole life without incident, doesn't make it an excuse if you kill a pedestrian whilst speeding. Same goes for bdsm practices.
 
Here is the text of the article for those that can't open the link:

A WOMAN will spend a year behind bars after being found guilty of the bondage session death of her husband.

A Queensland Supreme Court jury in Brisbane took less than a day to find Jean Margaret Meiers, 58, guilty of manslaughter.

It heard Geoffrey Braunack, 47, died at the couple's home on the Sunshine Coast, on November 1, 2004.

The court heard Meiers had taped his mouth and used rope, tape and a dog chain to tie him to a concrete post on the patio.

She left him there while she took a shower and returned to find he was not breathing. Attempts to revive him failed and he died of asphyxiation.

Meiers said her husband had been obsessed with bondage, and that he would beg to be tied up, boasting that he could escape from any situation.

She said she had tied him up hundreds of times before and she'd had no reason to harm him.

Justice Ann Lyons said it was clear Meiers had not intended to kill her husband, but she should have foreseen the consequences. She sentenced Meiers to three years' jail, two years of which were suspended.
 
Thank you...

Interesting... there's a lot to say here... but the bottom line is safety. I know that this might be rhetorical, but do people really leave a play partner trussed and unsupervised like this on a regular basis?? I know some enjoy the abandonment idea.. tied and alone... left to struggle. Blindfolds optional.. actual abandonment tho?? I could never do it... let them think they are alone, keep them blindfolded, sit quietly in a chair and watch.. but never leave them truly alone. Am I being overly cautious here??
 
No I don't think you're being overly cautious at all. There are any number of things that could wrong, as Mrs Meiers is now aware.
 
The first time I was ever tied up my partner left the room without a word. It was terrifying and hugely exciting for me and I have craved that feeling ever since. However he was only gone for a minute, although it seemed like a lot longer, and had just gone to the freezer for ice-cubes.

I think it is the responsibility of the PYL to see that anyone left in bondage is safe at all times, it could be acheived quite easily by listening outside of the door or having a discreet viewpoint.
 
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