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For those of you who know what's been happening here in Wisconsin with midwifery, here's an update.

Against all odds, with no money and no lobbyists, in the face of every established medical organization in the state our bill to license direct entry midwives passed through both the Senate and the Assembly yesterday with overwhelming "aye" votes. The day was amazing and uplifting and inspiring.

We filled the galleries of both houses with homebirth families, moms and dads and toddlers and nursing babies. We had a strong showing of both English and Plain families, the Plain men sitting in solid silent rows, arms crossed, eyes focused, hats politely in laps. The entire capitol rang with children's laughter and the sound of little feet, and yet while in session, all the children sat quietly munching on snacks and coloring pictures to give their representatives. In both houses, the perfect behavior of our supporters was commented on glowingly.

Women and babies went to the offices of every senator and every assemblyman in the building and shook hands, looked them in the eye and said, "I'm your constituent and I want you to support AB 709 today, with no ammendments. Leave the bill as it stands and support my right to make decisions for my family." We pressed flesh, smiled, laughed, and cried with our elected officials yesterday as we made our case again and again. And when the vote came down in the senate first, we broke into cheers and applause with hugging and more crying. And even though that kind of display is not allowed in the gallery, the senators on the floor joined our cheers and remarked again and again that this is how politics should work.

All afternoon a few members of the assembly tried to kill our bill or have it tabled during caucus, and every time it got close, we pulled out our cell phones and called supporters who were waiting at home to tell them to turn up the heat. They answered the call again and again, dialing their phones and sending email after email to the capitol, making it clear that we were not going away. If we didn't pass it this year, we'd be back next year.

One of the more interesting aspects of the day is that yesterday was also the day that our legislature was voting to overturn a gubenatorial veto of a concealed/carry law. The lawmakers believed that would be the hotbutton issue of the day, but as it turned out, the hundreds of homebirthing families changed all that.

Our vote in the Assembly was done as a voice vote only, and the rousing and lusty call of "Aye" by more than three-quarters of the house brought tears to our eyes yet again.

What a day!
What a victory!

The governor has already promised to sign, so as soon as that's done, I'm officially legal to practice my craft here in my state. And that feels so so so good!
 
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OH MY GOD!!! That is SO exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:nana: :nana: :nana:


<---seriously considering moving to Wisconsin now! :) :)
 
I have new faith in democracy.
:kiss: I'm so happy for you and everyone who will benefit from your services in the future. :heart:
 
Wonderful news!

Just goes to show you what a little grassroots support and persistance can do. Brilliant!
 
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!

:nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: <---------- Nana's on ice!
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Congratulations Logo :nana: :nana:
Pleased, glad and thinking good thoughts :D
Well done to all of your compatriots. :rose: :rose:
Proof we can still have a voice. :)
 
SelenaKittyn said:
OH MY GOD!!! That is SO exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:nana: :nana: :nana:


<---seriously considering moving to Wisconsin now! :) :)

Our law is good, Selena. We modeled it after Minnesota, but the only thing we couldn't get through was voluntary licensure. But we have the ability to carry antihemorrhagics, O2, to suture, I think to hang an IV, etc. We do NOT have a colaborative practice agreement or a malpractice requirement. The entire thing is a dream come true. We, like most states, are using the NARM as our licensing exam.

Contact me sometime if you want to talk birth... I'm always up for it!
 
great!

ontario made the same move a little while back. i hope midwifery expands and that medical assisted births become used far less often, and only where appropriate, i.e., the one of ten cases where something really dangerous is occurring.
 
Congratulations logo. So very happy for you.

And thanks. I'm so glad to hear about politics where money didn't make the difference.
 
The fact that this bill went through on entirely grassroots work is remarkable. And, it was affirming! Since the 2000 election (and again with the 2004 election) I have been more than a little jaded about whether or not our political system can still be used the way it was designed. But watching the progression of our bill through the process has really done a lot to bolster my hope that the people really do still have a voice, if they can get through the red tape and use it.
 
I am so very happy for you baby! Major kisses and hugs your way! Congrats to all who worked so hard to make this happen.
 
Wonderful news Logo!

Maybe grassroot support will translate into something national for 08!
 
You know...
One thing that chapped my ass yesterday (there had to be something, right?) was that one of our most verbal opponents (an assemblywoman who is also a nurse practitioner) was actually using our grass-roots-ness against us during her speech. It was the wackiest thing I had ever seen. She was claiming that we had made our cause seem larger than it really was by recruiting ALL of our supporters to work on the project. She said that by motivating "our people" (her term, not mine) so effectively, we made it look like there were a lot more homebirthers in the state and that the issue was really quite tiny and not worth the legislature's time. She went on and on about how we never paid a lobbyist, never paid for advertising and never brought lunch or dinner in for the representatives. She said it was highly unusual and should give all of them pause for thought about our true intentions. She wasn't making much sense, but it was galling, nonetheless, that she wanted to punish for doing it the old-fashioned way. But I guess, as midwives, we're all about that!
 
logophile said:
You know...
She went on and on about how we never paid a lobbyist, never paid for advertising and never brought lunch or dinner in for the representatives. She said it was highly unusual and should give all of them pause for thought about our true intentions.

That just officially chapped my ass!

Since when is legislature about lobbying and swaying a representative? Maybe, just maybe, a law should be a law because its the right thing!!!!

Grrrrrrr I want my own island nation more than ever.
 
Salvor-Hardon said:
That just officially chapped my ass!

Since when is legislature about lobbying and swaying a representative? Maybe, just maybe, a law should be a law because its the right thing!!!!

Grrrrrrr I want my own island nation more than ever.

Can I be your national figurehead?

(hehe - I said figure and head...)
 
Salvor-Hardon said:
That just officially chapped my ass!

Since when is legislature about lobbying and swaying a representative? Maybe, just maybe, a law should be a law because its the right thing!!!!

Grrrrrrr I want my own island nation more than ever.

Shades of Jack Abramoff, rearing their ugly heads....
 
cloudy said:
Shades of Jack Abramoff, rearing their ugly heads....

For a slug nickel I'd toss Jack Abramoff into the nasty prison in the country and let him "lobby" his way out of being Bubba's new bitch.

I'm all for two sides debating an issue but once it goes beyond a dialogue into gifts and services I call foul and say there should be serious penalties.
 
logophile said:
You know...
One thing that chapped my ass yesterday (there had to be something, right?) was that one of our most verbal opponents (an assemblywoman who is also a nurse practitioner) was actually using our grass-roots-ness against us during her speech. It was the wackiest thing I had ever seen. She was claiming that we had made our cause seem larger than it really was by recruiting ALL of our supporters to work on the project. She said that by motivating "our people" (her term, not mine) so effectively, we made it look like there were a lot more homebirthers in the state and that the issue was really quite tiny and not worth the legislature's time. She went on and on about how we never paid a lobbyist, never paid for advertising and never brought lunch or dinner in for the representatives. She said it was highly unusual and should give all of them pause for thought about our true intentions. She wasn't making much sense, but it was galling, nonetheless, that she wanted to punish for doing it the old-fashioned way. But I guess, as midwives, we're all about that!
She just forgot to bring her lunch to work that day and wanted a free lunch from you. You should have shouted TANSTAAFL!*

*There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
 
This made my morning when I saw it. I'm very happy for you Logo. Great victory. It makes my heart swell with pride for ya. :rose:
 
logophile said:
She went on and on about how we never paid a lobbyist, never paid for advertising and never brought lunch or dinner in for the representatives. She said it was highly unusual and should give all of them pause for thought about our true intentions.
Indeed.
She is right.
Your true intentions was to persuade the representatives by having solid arguments, true belief in your issue and working persistantly. NOT by engaging in sneaky under-the-table politicking. Ads and lobbyists? That's for people with money but without their heart in the issue.

That should give all of them pause for thought. Maybe not the thought she intended. But tough titty for her. :cool:


Now, since I don't get the terminology... what exactly was it that you made legal? "Direct entry midwives" says nothing to me other than that it has something to do with childbirth. Right?
 
Liar said:
Now, since I don't get the terminology... what exactly was it that you made legal? "Direct entry midwives" says nothing to me other than that it has something to do with childbirth. Right?


Oh :eek:

I thought it was now legal to enter your wives mid way, without flowers or foreplay first.

Damn, was I wrong.
 
Salvor-Hardon said:
Oh :eek:

I thought it was now legal to enter your wives mid way, without flowers or foreplay first.

Damn, was I wrong.
That might actually result in childbirth. :cool:
 
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