It has come to this?

[JackLuis]

In Tulare, CA a girl was told to stop selling lemonade without a license. HERE

Will the Government stop at nothing? Maybe Amicus is right?

Well, half right perhaps.

 

[sr71plt]

My guess is the day after you'd spent all night throwing up lemonade made from sewer water, you'd march right down to city hall and ask how they could have let this happen.

I'd think that going after the guy selling teatherball poles would be a better case to question.

 

[Dragonlipz]

In Tulare, CA a girl was told to stop selling lemonade without a license. HERE

Will the Government stop at nothing? Maybe Amicus is right?

Well, half right perhaps.

Not even a teeny bit right!

No one who quotes Ann Rand can be considered as anything other than an inbred, worn-out, tired-ass, non-intellectual coupon clipper..........on their best day.......

 

[voluptuary_manque]

In Tulare, CA a girl was told to stop selling lemonade without a license. HERE

Will the Government stop at nothing? Maybe Amicus is right?

Well, half right perhaps.

Tulare has a budget squeeze and needs all the license fees it can get?

 

[TE999]

This sort of chickenshit code enforcement happens all over the US...lemonade stands, garage sales, car washes, tree houses...petty crap by petty officials with time on their hands or trying to brownie the boss.

Now the city looks foolish and the girl has had a civics lesson.

 

[sr71plt]

This sort of chickenshit code enforcement happens all over the US...lemonade stands, garage sales, car washes, tree houses...petty crap by petty officials with time on their hands or trying to brownie the boss.

Now the city looks foolish and the girl has had a civics lesson.

Yeah, and Dobermans off the leash, demanding that the wheels on the house be kept inflated, and dead cars in the front yard next to the plastic gnome and pink flamingos. I feel your pain.

 

[DeeZire]

In Tulare, CA a girl was told to stop selling lemonade without a license. HERE

Will the Government stop at nothing? Maybe Amicus is right?

Well, half right perhaps.

Are you saying you'd prefer the way it is in Mexico, where children jump out in traffic to squeegie your windshield for a quarter? I mean, do you really want to see kids selling goods on every corner? The article did say busy intersection. Would it be better to wait for some kid to get splatted all over the sidewalk by a reckless driver before considering the safety issue?

I know where Ami would stand on this issue, but that doesn't mean he's right.

 

[JackLuis]

Are you saying you'd prefer the way it is in Mexico, where children jump out in traffic to squeegie your windshield for a quarter? I mean, do you really want to see kids selling goods on every corner? The article did say busy intersection. Would it be better to wait for some kid to get splatted all over the sidewalk by a reckless driver before considering the safety issue?

I know where Ami would stand on this issue, but that doesn't mean he's right.

It is called Ami baiting.

 

[Guest]

You have nothing better to do?

 

[TE999]

Yeah, and Dobermans off the leash, demanding that the wheels on the house be kept inflated, and dead cars in the front yard next to the plastic gnome and pink flamingos. I feel your pain.

Have you considered moving?

 

[sr71plt]

Have you considered moving?

Not to anyplace like that, certainly.

 

[TE999]

Not to anyplace like that, certainly.

The Travelocity gnome has a certain panache. Donkey cart planters on the other hand are just tacky.

 

[penandpaper]

This sort of chickenshit code enforcement happens all over the US...lemonade stands, garage sales, car washes, tree houses...petty crap by petty officials with time on their hands or trying to brownie the boss.

Now the city looks foolish and the girl has had a civics lesson.

The main part of the article, the one the journalist mentioned in less than a sentence was: the stepmom and little girl were set up on a busy intersection where the officer deemed it UNSAFE. He was not out to bust her balls, nor was the county trying to shut her dream of Disneyland down.

Often times the reason a code is written or enforced is because of safety. And, if they don't enforce it, and there's a car accident and the little girl gets killed - the city gets sued. A lose-lose situation.

It probably could have been handled better such as the code enforcement officer helping her set up a stand on a safe corner or street. But, if something were to happen, once again the city's at fault. Don't blame the city or code enforcer, blame frivolous lawsuits.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Here we deputized county employees to sneak around at night to check on people for sundry violations. They measure the moisture in your soil, check tags, look for on-street parking, and generally excite every chihuahua everywhere as they sneak around your yard after midnight. One or two got their asses whupped.

My house adjoins a county park. One of the mouth-breathers tried to cite me for not mowing county grass behind my house. She assumed my property was longer than it is. The county used to mow it but re-forested the right-of-way and cant get to it now.

 

[TE999]

The main part of the article, the one the journalist mentioned in less than a sentence was: the stepmom and little girl were set up on a busy intersection where the officer deemed it UNSAFE. He was not out to bust her balls, nor was the county trying to shut her dream of Disneyland down.

Often times the reason a code is written or enforced is because of safety. And, if they don't enforce it, and there's a car accident and the little girl gets killed - the city gets sued. A lose-lose situation.

It probably could have been handled better such as the code enforcement officer helping her set up a stand on a safe corner or street. But, if something were to happen, once again the city's at fault. Don't blame the city or code enforcer, blame frivolous lawsuits.

I'm sure the threat of a lawsuit factored into this decision...and there is the safety factor...hardly mentioned in all the sensationalisim. I agree this could have been handled more diplomatically, but having worked with code enforcement personnel for years, I know a lot of them have an exaggerated opinion of themselves and their powers. They get badge heavy like cops.

 

[Remec]

It probably could have been handled better such as the code enforcement officer helping her set up a stand on a safe corner or street. But, if something were to happen, once again the city's at fault. Don't blame the city or code enforcer, blame frivolous lawsuits.

If you follow the (link from the link) to the complete article, it says that the officer helped them pack up the equipment and called about looking to find them somewhere else to set up along with telling them they needed a license.

 

[sr71plt]

So, yet another hyped up "incident" to feed the Chicken Little dogmatists.

 

[JackLuis]

You have nothing better to do?

I find an article that might make him jump and I post it. Isn't that better than procrastinating?
Besides if Ami doesn't bite there are plenty of opinions from the usual gang.

sr71plt surprised me with his"sewer water" comment.

JBJ was his normal curmudgeony self and the rest of the crew added their two cents, so it was not a total loss.

The story reminded me of the kids who have been selling cupcakes and lemonade up the street from me. There is only one convient way into my neighborhood and they set up at the stop sign and flog their wares. I never see them selling much. Must be the recession?

 

[Guest]

It is called Ami baiting.

I find an article that might make him jump and I post it. Isn't that better than procrastinating?

Well, where Ami is concerned, you may be better off masturbating.

 

[SweetWitch]

My guess is the day after you'd spent all night throwing up lemonade made from sewer water, you'd march right down to city hall and ask how they could have let this happen.

I'd think that going after the guy selling teatherball poles would be a better case to question.

Oh, honestly, Pilot. Why do you see things that aren't even there? Have you so little faith in humanity? Didn't you ever have a lemonade stand as a kid.

I think I'll make lemonade tomorrow and set up the princess' lemonade stand for her. The last time she had it out, she was selling decorative gourds. She made a killing at 3/.25. She's quite the little entrepreneur.

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, honestly, Pilot. Why do you see things that aren't even there? Have you so little faith in humanity? Didn't you ever have a lemonade stand as a kid.

I think I'll make lemonade tomorrow and set up the princess' lemonade stand for her. The last time she had it out, she was selling decorative gourds. She made a killing at 3/.25. She's quite the little entrepreneur.

Excuse me? See what that isn't there? When I was young we went out trick or treating alone and were permitted to eat some of the candy we collected before we came home.

The world has changed.

So have health codes and regulations.

Since the OP, the story has unfolded, giving all sorts of reasons why they shut the stand down.

Any particular reason why you went after me on this?

 

[SweetWitch]

Excuse me? See what that isn't there? When I was young we went out trick or treating alone and were permitted to eat some of the candy we collected before we came home.

The world has changed.

So have health codes and regulations.

Since the OP, the story has unfolded, giving all sorts of reasons why they shut the stand down.

Any particular reason why you went after me on this?

I didn't "go after" you, Pilot. I merely asked questions.

The world may have changed, but children haven't. They're still kids. They still have dreams and needs. They still want to be something special and do something big. A lemonade stand may seem like a small thing, but to the kid running it, it's everything.

 

[sr71plt]

I didn't "go after" you, Pilot. I merely asked questions.

The world may have changed, but children haven't. They're still kids. They still have dreams and needs. They still want to be something special and do something big. A lemonade stand may seem like a small thing, but to the kid running it, it's everything.

Again, I don't know why you are making such a big deal of this (and sort of ignoring the issue). We have health codes--increasingly more of them--than we had before. And an increasingly need for them for several reasons--both changes in polluting elements and nastier people.

The view of children seems pretty irrelevant to the law code issue.

I don't think my response was either unreasonable or not reflecting current health code concerns.

Interesting that you are making such a big point of it, though. It's almost as if . . . Naw.

 

[SweetWitch]

Again, I don't know why you are making such a big deal of this (and sort of ignoring the issue). We have health codes--increasingly more of them--than we had before. And an increasingly need for them for several reasons--both changes in polluting elements and nastier people.

The view of children seems pretty irrelevant to the law code issue.

I don't think my response was either unreasonable or not reflecting current health code concerns.

Interesting that you are making such a big point of it, though. It's almost as if . . . Naw.

You think the important thing is all the laws that clog our lives. I see it differently. I see the disappointment in a child's eyes when a bit of her innocence and joy is taken from her. She had a dream and someone tried to squash it. I'm not saying the man is wrong for doing his job. I'm only saying the child was most likely hurt in the process.

So much has been taken from our children. When I grew up, most moms stayed home and the kids played free in the neighborhoods and parks. Now, we truck them off to enclosures where they are ruled over by summer-time college kids just hoping to get enough money to pay the next semester's room and board, because both parents need to work.

It used to be that kids could run down to the corner store for a pop or an ice cream or the ice cream truck would make the rounds on a sunny afternoon. We no longer hear the bells of the ice cream man and the corner store is a thing of the past. The playgrounds are empty and the neighborhoods no longer ring with the laughter of the kids. It all seems so much colder for my child. She'll never know that kind of freedom. All she has is regimentation.

An innocence has been lost in this world. Sand lots have been paved. Swimming holes have been drained for development. Stick ball in the streets has been outlawed. Childhood has become something to be shunned.

I realize that you don't see it that way, that your only concern in all this is the fact that some law may have been broken and I find it sad. But you see it your way and I see it mine.

 

[sr71plt]

You think the important thing is all the laws that clog our lives. I see it differently. I see the disappointment in a child's eyes when a bit of her innocence and joy is taken from her. She had a dream and someone tried to squash it. I'm not saying the man is wrong for doing his job. I'm only saying the child was most likely hurt in the process.

So much has been taken from our children. When I grew up, most moms stayed home and the kids played free in the neighborhoods and parks. Now, we truck them off to enclosures where they are ruled over by summer-time college kids just hoping to get enough money to pay the next semester's room and board, because both parents need to work.

It used to be that kids could run down to the corner store for a pop or an ice cream or the ice cream truck would make the rounds on a sunny afternoon. We no longer hear the bells of the ice cream man and the corner store is a thing of the past. The playgrounds are empty and the neighborhoods no longer ring with the laughter of the kids. It all seems so much colder for my child. She'll never know that kind of freedom. All she has is regimentation.

An innocence has been lost in this world. Sand lots have been paved. Swimming holes have been drained for development. Stick ball in the streets has been outlawed. Childhood has become something to be shunned.

I realize that you don't see it that way, that your only concern in all this is the fact that some law may have been broken and I find it sad. But you see it your way and I see it mine.

God, Molly, I was just stating that there are health codes about lemonade stands in many jurisdictions now--as a possible explanation for that one being closed down. I wasn't making a federal case or even particularly giving an opinion. There are, in fact, health codes ruling out lemonade stands in many jurisdictions now.

You're making up all sorts of things I believe.

You'll have to do the dying swan scene about this all by yourself. It's not that big of an issue for me.

Go argue with someone else. Got to wonder why you are picking a fight (or not wonder at all, I suppose. Part of a pattern much?)