Israel under constant attack and then Oct 7th, they retaliate and the whole world is against Israel

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Ukraine didnt attack Russia, Russia invades pounds cities and civilians and grabs land and no one says anything
 
Really? Where are the encampments, the damage at Colleges, the street protests, etc the calls of genocide? Where are the worldwide protests? Where are the daily worldwide protests?
 
Ukraine didnt attack Russia, Russia invades pounds cities and civilians and grabs land and no one says anything
You actually acknowledge that Russia initiated the conflict against Ukraine and committed acts of aggression against that country.

That's a start at least; Rightguide, and the PinkParkHorse/Glamorilla/Hisarpy/Wallstreet (etc.) guy haven't even got that far yet.

And yes, many people, even on this forum, have, in fact, said plenty about it. With the exception of the two aforementioned people above (And maybe Ann Tagonist/Saint Ann as well), most of them have condemned Russia for it. You might have realized this if you hadn't spent most of your time creating millions of your own spam/troll threads and actually reading what other people have to say.
 
冤有头,债有主,以色列的恩怨是有历史原因的,一两句话说不明白,同样的道理也适用于俄乌之间。网友的争论也是有各自的立场的,同时也是受限于自己的知识、认知和其它主客观因素的。
There is a reason for every grievance and debt, Israel's enmity has historical roots that cannot be explained in a few words, the same applies to Russia and Ukraine. The arguments of netizens are also based on their own positions, limited by their knowledge, understanding, and other subjective and objective factors.
 
Poor little Israel. They spend all those years taking over Palestinian territory far beyond the lands established by the United Nations, they invade their neighbor's houses & farms and set up armed road blocks, killing Palestinians for years. Then one day the Palestinians take some hostages to try to protect themselves from the ethnic cleansing. Israel, supported by US money and arms launches a full scale genocide of the Palestinians. But they are the victims and Trump wants to build a golf resort and make even more money that he can never spend.

BTW, the world had plenty to say when Putin invaded Georgia as well as Ukraine.
 
冤有头,债有主,以色列的恩怨是有历史原因的,一两句话说不明白,同样的道理也适用于俄乌之间。网友的争论也是有各自的立场的,同时也是受限于自己的知识、认知和其它主客观因素的。
There is a reason for every grievance and debt, Israel's enmity has historical roots that cannot be explained in a few words, the same applies to Russia and Ukraine. The arguments of netizens are also based on their own positions, limited by their knowledge, understanding, and other subjective and objective factors.
What? o_O
 
There will be peace in the middle East when Hamas and all of their supporters are dead and gone and Iran has been reduced to 4th world status. The faster the Israeli's eliminate them, the sooner that peace will come.
 
There will be peace in the middle East when Hamas and all of their supporters are dead and gone and Iran has been reduced to 4th world status. The faster the Israeli's eliminate them, the sooner that peace will come.
Cretin-Yahoo has been outed as Rebel5soul! This is the attitude that will guarantee wars is the Middle East will continue forever. Israel would not exist if USA ceased arms donations. Israel was established through billionaires purchasing Palestinian land from absentee landowners, then using terrorist tactics to drive out native Palestinians. Occupation of the West Bank is illegal from any point of view. While most people have come to accept the existence of Israel, hardly anyone accepts that Israel has a right to occupy and settle the West Bank, nor to kill tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza.
 
Israel conquered the West Bank during the Six Day War. The land belongs to the Israelis. I remember the Six Day War. It was a splendid war. I was delighted by it. :nana:
 
Cretin-Yahoo has been outed as Rebel5soul! This is the attitude that will guarantee wars is the Middle East will continue forever. Israel would not exist if USA ceased arms donations. Israel was established through billionaires purchasing Palestinian land from absentee landowners, then using terrorist tactics to drive out native Palestinians. Occupation of the West Bank is illegal from any point of view. While most people have come to accept the existence of Israel, hardly anyone accepts that Israel has a right to occupy and settle the West Bank, nor to kill tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza.
The more they get their asses kicked the more of them that step up to the table to make peace, facts which blow your thesis to hell.

There is NO SUCH THING as a Palestinian. It's all made up to sucker morons like you. There are consequences to starting a war.............and losing. Among those things lost are real property, too fucking bad. Stop starting wars.
 
The more they get their asses kicked the more of them that step up to the table to make peace, facts which blow your thesis to hell.

There is NO SUCH THING as a Palestinian. It's all made up to sucker morons like you. There are consequences to starting a war.............and losing. Among those things lost are real property, too fucking bad. Stop starting wars.
Gaza was originally part of Egypt and the West Bank was originally part of Jordan.

Egypt and Jordan lost territory in a war they started.

Imagine if in 1948 the Moslems had said, "The Israelis are scum but the Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) says we must be men of peace so we will not take up arms, we will be true followers of Islam (ptui)."
 
By this woman's logic, the Welsh have rights of ownership of England because their ancestors occupied it 2000 years ago. As someone who is "ethnically" Jewish but not observant, I know that Jews are told that they have divine right to Israel because they are God's chosen people. BUT: Any check of population statistics of the Palestinian area shows just how few Jews there were on that land until the late 19th Century. The vast majority of the population were Muslim. Much of the land was owned by overseas landlords who sold their land to Jews. After WW2, there were enough Jews, aided by the Haganah terrorists, to drive out most of the non-Jews. That is just history. What this woman says are Fox News "alternative facts".
 
By this woman's logic, the Welsh have rights of ownership of England because their ancestors occupied it 2000 years ago. As someone who is "ethnically" Jewish but not observant, I know that Jews are told that they have divine right to Israel because they are God's chosen people. BUT: Any check of population statistics of the Palestinian area shows just how few Jews there were on that land until the late 19th Century. The vast majority of the population were Muslim. Much of the land was owned by overseas landlords who sold their land to Jews. After WW2, there were enough Jews, aided by the Haganah terrorists, to drive out most of the non-Jews. That is just history. What this woman says are Fox News "alternative facts".
I want the Jews to have the land they conquered during the Six Day War of 1967. This is because the Jews are people like me. The Palestinians are not.
 
The way I see it, this is a war where there are no good guys, only bad guys vs. bad guys.

Let's be clear on one thing: Hamas and the Palestinians started the war. Most, though maybe not all, would agree on this. And they did so not by attacking Israeli military installations, arms depots, or troop positions, but by attacking innocent civilians- including women and children- who were peacefully enjoying life at a rock concert. This was an atrocity, and it was fully justifiable that Israel would retaliate. Can you blame them? Early on, my emotional and moral support was with Israel as well.

But what is happening now is, atrocity following atrocity. Israel going scorched earth, full on genocide, against the Arab/Islamic population of the Gaza area- call them Palestinians, call them what you will. Women and children gunned down and slaughtered as they wait for food. The population being deliberately starved, aid choked off, homes bulldozed, residential areas carpet bombed into dust. What little aid- basic necessities for survival, is allowed in there is being used as "human bait" so more innocents can be killed, like shooting fish in a barrel. How I want to root for Israel in this conflict, I really do, but they are no longer the good guys. So I can't. Those women and children being gunned down while awaiting aid, I'm pretty sure none of them had anything whatsoever to do with what happened in October 2023.

It's just horrible all around- atrocities on both sides, and all I can do is pray for peace and deliverance for the suffering on both sides. They may not be "people like me" but they are humans, and it's easy to turn a callous eye to their suffering because they are not people like me- but that is not the highest and best way to be a good human.
 
The way I see it, this is a war where there are no good guys, only bad guys vs. bad guys.

Let's be clear on one thing: Hamas and the Palestinians started the war. Most, though maybe not all, would agree on this. And they did so not by attacking Israeli military installations, arms depots, or troop positions, but by attacking innocent civilians- including women and children- who were peacefully enjoying life at a rock concert. This was an atrocity, and it was fully justifiable that Israel would retaliate. Can you blame them? Early on, my emotional and moral support was with Israel as well.

But what is happening now is, atrocity following atrocity. Israel going scorched earth, full on genocide, against the Arab/Islamic population of the Gaza area- call them Palestinians, call them what you will. Women and children gunned down and slaughtered as they wait for food. The population being deliberately starved, aid choked off, homes bulldozed, residential areas carpet bombed into dust. What little aid- basic necessities for survival, is allowed in there is being used as "human bait" so more innocents can be killed, like shooting fish in a barrel. How I want to root for Israel in this conflict, I really do, but they are no longer the good guys. So I can't. Those women and children being gunned down while awaiting aid, I'm pretty sure none of them had anything whatsoever to do with what happened in October 2023.

It's just horrible all around- atrocities on both sides, and all I can do is pray for peace and deliverance for the suffering on both sides. They may not be "people like me" but they are humans, and it's easy to turn a callous eye to their suffering because they are not people like me- but that is not the highest and best way to be a good human.
There is no genocide in Gaza. Hamas supplies fake causality number and is trying to scare people away from the food that Israel is delivering in the combat zone.
 
It’s a violent war zone. 🙄 Israeli is still losing soldiers daily because they’re going house to house instead of just bombing indiscriminately to kill everyone.
Israeli army is using missiles to try to kill one Hamas leader, not caring that they are killing dozens of innocent civilians, including many children, as collateral damage. You should be aware that Israel has lost the support that it once had. Anti-semitism is rising, unfortunately, as many peopl can't discriminate between Zionists and Jews. Israel is now viewed as a pariah state. Iran Vs Israel: Who cares who wins? The world would be a better place if both were reduced to rubble.
 
There is no genocide in Gaza. Hamas supplies fake causality number and is trying to scare people away from the food that Israel is delivering in the combat zone.
Wondering how many children died and how many bombing happened to the hospitals.

Do hamas feed these news to media like BBC or CNN?
 
Israeli army is using missiles to try to kill one Hamas leader, not caring that they are killing dozens of innocent civilians, including many children, as collateral damage. You should be aware that Israel has lost the support that it once had. Anti-semitism is rising, unfortunately, as many peopl can't discriminate between Zionists and Jews. Israel is now viewed as a pariah state. Iran Vs Israel: Who cares who wins? The world would be a better place if both were reduced to rubble.

Someone once wrote down that "by their words, ye shall know them" or something similar.



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