Is this hypocritical?

[Guest]

 

[Colleen Thomas]

The BCS was so discredited last year that I think the times would rather be free to editorialize abouthow screwed up it is, rather than have to be silent because they have a sy in it.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

I don't think it's hypocritical; there's a difference between influencing college sports and foreign policy or elections, etc. P.

 

[Guest]

 

[Lauren Hynde]

There's a poll to determine a football champion? Yes, it's hypocritical.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

There's a poll to determine a football champion? Yes, it's hypocritical.

Yes...Sher posts them under a different name.

 

[Guest]

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Yes there's a poll (the only college sport where there's not a structured play-off system to establish the champion - too much money involved in the current system to fix it logically).

Lime

Then it's a definite yes. It's hypocritical to call the winner a football champion and anyone remotely involved in it (the poll) has every right to not participate.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

The following editorial can be filed away under etc. or misc..

I have two dogs in the issue of the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) which picks the two teams that get to play a single, winner-take-all, post-season game for the major college, USA-style football title.

For something like 20 years I've written about sports for a friend's weekly newspaper. Dog number two is that I'm a graduate of LSU which won last year’s much discussed BCS championship

There were two main problems with the 2003 edition of the Bowl Championship Series. No added weight was given to late season loses and the Big 12 (sports) Conference insisted a team should not be automatically barred from the national championship game if they lost their conference championship.

It's worth noting that in two of the last three years Big 12 teams that lost the league's end-of-season championship game ended up playing for the national title. (Oklahoma last year, Nebraska three years ago). Both teams played lackluster games and lost. If for no other reasons than common sense and self-respect, the Big 12 should change its stance.

As for the NYT's self-righteous decision, believe it or not, I agree with them. The BCS uses many computer polls, plus the two voted by sports writers (AP) and head coaches (USAToday). To the best of my knowledge, the “old gray lady” was the only newspaper with a computer poll in the mix.

With all the recent turmoil at the Times, the paper is better off clear of the BCS and having no official input on something it's covering. Many reputable media outlets such as the Times, the Atlanta Constitution and the paper I write for have refused to take comp tickets and other freebies from teams they are covering (dang it).

I'd have loved seeing LSU play USC for the national title. They were two evenly matched clubs and USC deserved a chance. But thanks to the Big 12's influence on the rules for the BCS, the Trojans claim to a title will always come with an asterisk.

And for those who think the BCS mess is the worst possible situation in the wide, wide world of sports, I have just two words for you, "professional boxing."

Rumple Foreskin

 

[Colleen Thomas]

The following editorial can be filed away under etc. or misc..

I have two dogs in the issue of the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) which picks the two teams that get to play a single, winner-take-all, post-season game for the major college, USA-style football title.

For something like 20 years I've written about sports for a friend's weekly newspaper. Dog number two is that I'm a graduate of LSU which won last year’s much discussed BCS championship

There were two main problems with the 2003 edition of the Bowl Championship Series. No added weight was given to late season loses and the Big 12 (sports) Conference insisted a team should not be automatically barred from the national championship game if they lost their conference championship.

It's worth noting that in two of the last three years Big 12 teams that lost the league's end-of-season championship game ended up playing for the national title. (Oklahoma last year, Nebraska three years ago). Both teams played lackluster games and lost. If for no other reasons than common sense and self-respect, the Big 12 should change its stance.

As for the NYT's self-righteous decision, believe it or not, I agree with them. The BCS uses many computer polls, plus the two voted by sports writers (AP) and head coaches (USAToday). To the best of my knowledge, the “old gray lady” was the only newspaper with a computer poll in the mix.

With all the recent turmoil at the Times, the paper is better off clear of the BCS and having no official input on something it's covering. Many reputable media outlets such as the Times, the Atlanta Constitution and the paper I write for have refused to take comp tickets and other freebies from teams they are covering (dang it).

I'd have loved seeing LSU play USC for the national title. They were two evenly matched clubs and USC deserved a chance. But thanks to the Big 12's influence on the rules for the BCS, the Trojans claim to a title will always come with an asterisk.

And for those who think the BCS mess is the worst possible situation in the wide, wide world of sports, I have just two words for you, "professional boxing."

Rumple Foreskin

LSU would have beaten USC. Either would have beaten Oklahoma. The fact that the two best teams in the nation didn't play for the Championship makes it very hard to defend the BCS. The days of the BIG 12 being a premier league are over. Have been since the BCS made teams like Nebraska play real opponents, rather than East Carolina Votech and the pop warner team from across the street. Trouncing East Tennesse State Beautician's college 63 to nothing is not impressive to me.

The times, with it's recent spate of credibility problems should pull out of anything where its influence might be felt in a big way. Until they get their own house in order the BCS is better off without them.

-Colly

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

LSU would have beaten USC. Either would have beaten Oklahoma. The fact that the two best teams in the nation didn't play for the Championship makes it very hard to defend the BCS. The days of the BIG 12 being a premier league are over. Have been since the BCS made teams like Nebraska play real opponents, rather than East Carolina Votech and the pop warner team from across the street. Trouncing East Tennesse State Beautician's college 63 to nothing is not impressive to me.

The times, with it's recent spate of credibility problems should pull out of anything where its influence might be felt in a big way. Until they get their own house in order the BCS is better off without them.

-Colly

Colly,

Yep.

Rumple