Is someone in here talking about my stories?

[americandemon]

I got some feed back and the person said I should come here because people were talking about my stories. I'm sure it was bad but still. Speak up. I am listening. Not that I will change anything. But hey you should be happy...I haven't written a story in a very long time.
Demon

 

[TheEarl]

Demon: No offence meant, but I've not ever heard your name mentioned.

The Earl

 

[Quint]

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188646

 

[Svenskaflicka]

"Don't worry about what people might say about you behind your back - they probably have more interesting things to talk about than you!"

 

[Chicklet]

I'm sure it was bad but still.

You need a little more self-confidence, dude. Of course, look who's talking lol.

If you're ever curious, you can always do a search and type in your name as the keyword. You'll find wherever your name is mentioned.

-Chicklet

 

[The_Fool]

Re: Re: Is someone in here talking about my stories?

You need a little more self-confidence, dude. Of course, look who's talking lol.

If you're ever curious, you can always do a search and type in your name as the keyword. You'll find wherever your name is mentioned.

-Chicklet

*L* I wonder how many times "fool" would come up...

 

[KillerMuffin]

MlleBluepen has completely psychoanalyzed and diagnosed your psychological disorders at least twice based solely on the body of your local smut. You evil sociopath you. Because she has the wit to use fifty dollar words and mention the DSM-IV, that will be $150 dollars, please. Don't forget your prescription for psychotropic medications, please make an appointment with the receptionist.

We will be dissecting Type A Control Freaks in our next installment of who is your favorite mental case.

 

[MlledeLaPlumeBleu]

Asinine and uncool.

$25 for the first one and 50 cents for the other.

Sometimes you can pick up really great stuff at yard sales.

 

[snooper]

No publicity is bad

At least I went and read a couple of your stories because I wanted to understand what M'ue was on about.

They didn't help me understand the rant, but I thought they were well written in a category I don't often read (non-consent).

 

[MlledeLaPlumeBleu]

It wasn't a rant, Snoop. Maybe a long, fruitless diatribe- but please don't do me the disservice of calling it a rant when I never lost my temper.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Like the Not Very Intelligent Person I had a fight with this morning, who made the assumption that since I, a woman, was angry, I must have my period.

Is it true that judges let you off easier if you claim to have murdered someone under the influence of PMS?

Svenskaflicka
Allowed To One Post

 

[MlledeLaPlumeBleu]

Only if the judge is on the rag...

But trust me, that only works when you're accused of literal murder- not character assassination

 

[Svenskaflicka]

'Nuff said.

 

[snooper]

It wasn't a rant, Snoop. Maybe a long, fruitless diatribe- but please don't do me the disservice of calling it a rant when I never lost my temper.

My apologies, but I had no body language or volume to judge from. It looked like a rant, and it read like a rant. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck ...

Again, apologies if I misinterpreted you, but I still don't understand to what you are objecting.

 

[americandemon]

Well, I'm confused

No offence taken Earl. Hmmm, I don't get it. I just got another feedback saying girls in here are talking about my stories. I guess in a bad way. The guy loved the story and gave it a five. He said I should really give it too them and to keep writting. I have like.....8 stories on paper. I just can't deciede if I should put them in. As far as "really giving it too them". Ummm ok. Ummm. YOU GIRLS STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT MY STORIES!!! Oh yeah! I'm bad! I'm bad! LOL Actually I don't care. everyone is different. So, if you really hate my stories. Fine. I have to say I get alot more good feedback than bad. I think I have only received maybe 10 out of 150 bad. So I must be doing something right. Oh well. Thanks everyone. Bye
Demon

 

[MlledeLaPlumeBleu]

Hi, 'Demon-

I'm "the girl". Not girls- as far as I know everyone else here thinks your story is great.

My comments were about one story, and it wasn't anything to do with your writing style. I think "a Cunt in an SUV" might fit better in "extreme" than "non-consent" because of the rage-rape aspect of it. To me it was much less about sex than it was about vengeance and retribution- i.e. bashing that bitch's face in.

In any case, it matters not- it's Laurel's site and she's cool with it, so the conversation was completely hypothetical/rhetorical anyway; i.e. what is Extreme if not knocking a woman's teeth out and shoving a cell phone up her ass?

There is alot of acute pain expressed in your other [non-violent] writings that I read as made manifest in a mistrust and anger toward women. Reading "Cunt in an SUV" after that made me think that it was less fantasy than catharsis.

I don't have a problem with rape fantasies and stories, but being a woman myself, of course I see differences in the presentation from one to the next. The presentation of this story, to me, seemed less about erotica than "giving it to the bitch", and thus was more of a rage-based fantasy. That's the message it sent to me as a chick, anyway.

As for "really giving it to me", well, sorry. I absolutely think you should keep writing at all costs. Expression is man's inalienable right. You say you have eight new stories? Why let them sit in your desk?

As for the upshot of the "Cunt in an SUV" conversation: Everyone got in a big clusterfuck over it, and lots of verbiage was slung, and now we're all tired as hell, so we're writing haiku poetry about the unbridled majesty of Mr. T.

Yes, from the A-Team. I pity the fool who would try to ram a cell phone up Mr. T's butt...hmmm....good idea for a haiku.

Miss Blue Pen

 

[americandemon]

I see your point

about the "Extreme". But really the story is more non consent than Extreme. Rape is rage. My story Cunt in A Suv is rage. Rape in real life is pure rage and belongs in the nonconsent area. Extreme to me would have the girl being a child or being raped but animals too. To me that is extreme. Being beaten while being raped is true to life. I'll be honest this story of mine is my least favorite. But my editor told me my stories weren't very realistic. I got pissed and wrote Cunt in a Suv. She read it and didn't like it. I told her this is real this is what could happen in real life. She agreed. but still hated it. LOL I wanted to delete the story before I posted it but she insisted I put it in. To be honest it's my lowest voted story. Right now it's at 3.76. I know why. But it has over 30 thousand reads. That I don't get. LOL Well the one good thing that came from this story.....My editor leaves me alone about my stories. Anyway, I do see your point and now you see mine. I'm o.k about that and hope you are too. Oh and about my 8 stories........5 of them I want to throw away. It's a series. So far with 5 chapters. I just can't decide. Chapter One was sent in then sent back for poor spelling. I just can't seem to modivate myself to fix it. I do love my other 3 stories. One is for the Horror area. The other is for nonconsent and the last one would go into masterbation area. (for the ladies) It's kind of a let me help you if your afraid to help yourself. LOL

Well, I'm outta here. Have a nice weekend everyone.
Demon

 

[Svenskaflicka]

To me, rage is anti-erotic. Ergo, a story filled with rage belongs in Extreme.

So far, I've only seen ONE Non-Consent story that I actually found sexy, and that was about a couple that were role-playing, and pretended to be strangers, and he jumped her while she was out jogging, etc.

I get mad, sometimes. Lately, I've been mad quite often. I usually AVOID writing anything when I'm angry, because I know that whatever I write, it will be pure shit. IF I DO write something, for therapy value, you know, to get the feelings out of me, then I re-read it again when I'm back to normal, blush, and burn the papers, so that no-one will find out that I wrote something so humiliatingly bad.

As far as I've understood it, Non-Consent is fantasies about one part controlling the other, of doing something sexual against her even though she says "no, don't do that!".
As far as I've understood it, the difference between Non-Consent and Extreme is that in Non-Consent, the woman doesn't get really injured, neither physically nor mentally, whereas in Extreme, they don't stop at anything.
I'd say that a story about beating a woman up and raping her should be in Extreme.

AD, you have the legal right to write these stories, and submit them, and if Laurel thinks that they are OK, then they won't go to Extreme. But I really can't understand, just as I don't understand Portuguese, HOW you can find a story about a man beating a woman up, erotic?

 

[SexySoBeChick]

I get mad, sometimes. Lately, I've been mad quite often. I usually AVOID writing anything when I'm angry, because I know that whatever I write, it will be pure shit. IF I DO write something, for therapy value, you know, to get the feelings out of me, then I re-read it again when I'm back to normal, blush, and burn the papers, so that no-one will find out that I wrote something so humiliatingly bad.

Really? I find I'm my most bitingly witty when I'm good and ticked off. My most recent novel began because I was fuming about something. Of course, I didn't brutalize someone in print—just got bitchy in a funny way.

SSBC

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

The presentation of this story, to me, seemed less about erotica than "giving it to the bitch", and thus was more of a rage-based fantasy. That's the message it sent to me as a chick, anyway.

Has AD suggested anywhere this story is *supposed* to be a fantasy? Does every story posted here have to be a personal fantasy of the author? If so then perhaps I'd better stop writing, because I write stories, with some of my fantasies in them.

Why can we not accept that this is a story about a psychopath who beats up and rapes a woman, with all the graphical detail you wouldn't be allowed on other story sites?

If Literotica is supposed to be "a place where people read stories and masturbate" then maybe this story doesn't belong. But if Literotica is a place where you can write a story involving rape and violence and tell the whole story without having to censor the details or omit the fact that the woman actually had an orgasm, then I see no reason why this story in particular is a problem.

ax

 

[MlledeLaPlumeBleu]

This has been discusssed "to fucking death" on two other threads.

 

[MathGirl]

This has been discusssed "to fucking death" on two other threads.

Dear Blu,
When did that ever deter us? A deceased equine is not only flogged, it must kicked, pummeled, mutilated, and set afire.
MG
Ps. Everyone has to have his/her turn, and many come back for seconds.

 

[MlledeLaPlumeBleu]

Yeah. I see your point.

Although I think this particular horsie has already been sent to the rendering plant and is now being expressed onto lawns and city streets by infinite canine sausage-grinders, as well as adhering the flaps of myriad envelopes en route with well-wishes for gramma...

But hey, beat the shit out of it. Why not?

 

[Never]

Are you joking Blue Pen?

Pyper left the GB three years ago and people are still bringing her up. At Lit, all horses are of the undead kind and must be constantly beaten on least they go on a bloodsucking rampage.

 

[Pure]

About the 'dead horse'

I don't see one in this thread or the other one 'Hey Killer Muffin'.

I see a fairly worked out, imperiously stated point of view that was agreed to by most posters--at least half of whom stated they would not read the piece.

The almost**sole exception was Wild Sweet One who instantly got a personally hostile and demeaning response (later apologized for) and not a word of support.

Just to bring forward a sample to this thread:

Mlledelaplumebleu:

The poem DarlingNikki quoted above clearly shows the roiling anger inside this guy. He's furious at beautiful women, his mother, at people who can afford nice vacations, at women who have nice cars and talk on cell phones. He sees brutalization and rape as a justified means of leveling the playing field. He's obsessed with women as "baby-making machines" and "cum-buckets", and with sowing his "seed". He fantasizes about a vision of perfection, a blue-eyed, 120 lb blonde angel who who will see past the fact that he's bald and old and fat and just love him, because that's all he wants- just to be loved!

But only by a blonde-haired, blue-eyed 120 lb angel, and since they never gave him the time of day- those bitches- they're to blame for the "monster he's become".

It's not about the worth of his writing, or it's merit. To say that is useless Devil's Advocacy. This man's body of work presents the picture of an individual well on the path to raping or even murdering someone. I read his writing as a diary of intent.[my bolding, pure]
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[another posting]
In any case, your empathy is wasted on a sociopath.

Part of the antisocial personality make-up is a complete inability to empathize or recognize humanity in any form. ...To a sociopath, you are a bookshelf. A "baby-machine". A "cum-bucket". A "breeding toy". An object, to be used and thrown away.
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Leaving aside the question of evidence, it's possible some of the psychodiagnosis is correct, but why discuss the author? One can't avoid the impression that the author critique is meant to serve as a kind of ersatz critique of his stories, for who wants to read someone about to be hauled off by the cops for brutal sex murders.

As to evidence, consider:

He [AD] sees brutalization and rape as a justified means of leveling the playing field.

Where is the evidence, regarding AD, Mlle? Is it because a character in one of AD's stories rapes?

He's obsessed with women as "baby-making machines" and "cum-buckets", and with sowing his "seed".

Where's the evidence? Is it that a character in AD's story uses those terms?

Of course Mlle has virtually no information about AD.

Hence one is a little surprised by

This man's body of work presents the picture of an individual well on the path to raping or even murdering someone. I read his writing as a diary of intent.

Psychologists who actually gather data, look at evidence, do testing and interview the person are generally a little chary of predicting violence, and the untrustworthiness of such predictions is well documented.

Mlle has virtually no evidence outside a few of AD's writings (fiction and poetry), but has no trepidation.

Of course she does not propose the illiberal path of censoring the fellow; labelling him dangerous sociopath and imminent prison fodder seems sufficient to close discussion and scotch interest in his stories.

To illustrate the fruits of her approach, I suggest readers look at the story below, also by AmericanDemon. A fairly conventional 'romance' (porn style). Following her line, clearly the *author* is conventionally romantic and tender and believes in 'soulmates'; that's because the two characters do.

Further, why not construe the story as a 'diary of intent'? One could then conclude that the author is 'well on the path' to seeking out a soulmate .

This is not a stand on the merits of the SUV story or the health of the author. Nor is it a plea for really bad poetry. It's simply a note about a domination of a debate which precludes any discussion.

[revised 8-11, 14:05 pm edt]

J.

**{added, 2:22 am 8-11} KillerM obliquely, perhaps, made some similar points to mine. Not oblique enough, since her posting was dismissed as 'asinine.'

American Demon's story in "Romance" category:

Heaven on Earth
http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/showstory.php?id=77594