Is my attitude wrong?

[girlsmiley]

After what happened at the Lindt Cafe in Sydney...

I thought everything would be okay and they'd arrest the guy.

People died and it was not okay.

My sister tells me there was a terrorist attack in Auckland New Zealand today and my first response is "Shoot the bastard"

And I'm glad they did because apparently he was a nutter and really hurt some people but at the same time I think to myself, "Shoot the bastard?"

Is that where it's at now? Is that where we're at? We're just killing each other just like that? Is that what's on our doorstep now?

 

[girlsmiley]

Sorry, here's the link

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceani...-people-at-auckland-mall-20210903-p58olf.html

 

[Champakian]

Were they supposed to play on a level playing field and knife-fight the guy?

Subdue him with ancient empty-hand Chinese secrets?

Who knows? Shooting him might have
saved a few victims. No?

 

[girlsmiley]

Were they supposed to play on a level playing field and knife-fight the guy?

Subdue him with ancient empty-hand Chinese secrets?

Who knows? Shooting him might have
saved a few victims. No?

Police have shot the wrong people before. In the firing line. They've killed innocent people before. I understand that


It's not that. It's not that at all. It's the fact that I'm so "yes please shoot him" now. Never in my life have I ever thought I'd be okay with killing someone. Just letting someone have it. Thou shalt not and and all that.

It's fucking crazy.

 

[Champakian]

It's hard to consider a perp holding a bloody knife as innocent until proven guilty...

 

[FGB]

I have never known a dead man to come back alive and murder anyone else.

Not the happiest solution but effective.

 

[Champakian]

For the record, I'm okay with it too.

More people tend to get to go home to their families
when the truly violent are judiciously neutralized...

 

[rockcasbah]

It was very considerate of the authorities to watch him for years and give him the space to kill 6 people before interrupting.

 

[FataMorgana]

Shoot the fuckers. No use to society, rehabilitation unlikely.

And folk who are cruel to animals. And those who talk in the cinema.

 

[Champakian]

Definitions are tough.

There is that element which refers to pet ownership as cruelty to animals.

Having two dogs living here, I'd say compared to the coyote skulking around my chicken pen,
that they have it pretty damned good...

:shrug:

 

[Chernosoth]

New Zealand seems to be the most severely locked down nation. Many more people will become crazy.

 

[FataMorgana]

Definitions are tough.

There is that element which refers to pet ownership as cruelty to animals.

Having two dogs living here, I'd say compared to the coyote skulking around my chicken pen,
that they have it pretty damned good...

:shrug:

They've changed the law here today, 2000 dogs stolen during lockdowns, previously seen as loss of property it will be now considered a criminal offence.

Quite right too.

 

[EnglishStud]

I personally would have shot him but kept him alive. Then lock him in a cell with only his bodyparts strategically cut off for breakfast, dinner and tea. Seems a humane end for the cunt to me

 

[mayfly13]

It was very considerate of the authorities to watch him for years and give him the space to kill 6 people before interrupting.

he probably knew he was being followed and waited for the best time. I feel for the cops, they must feel terrible.

But 6 years of shadowing him out of taxpayers' money? And I assume he's not the only one.
Couldn't they just set him up?

 

[Saint_Ann]

You should have seen the place in the 1600s.

 

[Windman1]

The best of bad

Shooting someone is always a bad decision. But sometimes its the best of the bad decisions you have available. Once a person demonstrates they want to kill innocent people what choice do you have. If you are civilian who is carrying you are now involved in a nightmare that has no good outcome. Anyone at that point that ends the violence by taking the life of the perpetrator will have made a terrible but necessary decision. As a society what choice do we have? Sure there are systemic issues to be addressed, but we will always have evil among us and sometimes we have no choice but to match violence with overwhelming violence to end it.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

After what happened at the Lindt Cafe in Sydney...

I thought everything would be okay and they'd arrest the guy.

People died and it was not okay.

My sister tells me there was a terrorist attack in Auckland New Zealand today and my first response is "Shoot the bastard"

And I'm glad they did because apparently he was a nutter and really hurt some people but at the same time I think to myself, "Shoot the bastard?"

Is that where it's at now? Is that where we're at? We're just killing each other just like that? Is that what's on our doorstep now?

Your attitude is but one of many, many things wrong with your fat ass. Tried suicide?

 

[Taggy1]

Police have shot the wrong people before. In the firing line. They've killed innocent people before. I understand that


It's not that. It's not that at all. It's the fact that I'm so "yes please shoot him" now. Never in my life have I ever thought I'd be okay with killing someone. Just letting someone have it. Thou shalt not and and all that.

It's fucking crazy.

It’s only going to get worse. They’ve now got a hand around the throats of politicians and will continue with attacks. This is only heading one way. War, because Islam wants complete control

 

[Philthy_Phil]

What are UK trumptards called?

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

After what happened at the Lindt Cafe in Sydney...

I thought everything would be okay and they'd arrest the guy.

People died and it was not okay.

My sister tells me there was a terrorist attack in Auckland New Zealand today and my first response is "Shoot the bastard"

And I'm glad they did because apparently he was a nutter and really hurt some people but at the same time I think to myself, "Shoot the bastard?"

Is that where it's at now? Is that where we're at? We're just killing each other just like that? Is that what's on our doorstep now?

It's not so much your attitude as the fact that you're just a piece of shit.

 

[mayfly13]

After what happened at the Lindt Cafe in Sydney...
I thought everything would be okay and they'd arrest the guy.

People died and it was not okay.
My sister tells me there was a terrorist attack in Auckland New Zealand today and my first response is "Shoot the bastard"

And I'm glad they did because apparently he was a nutter and really hurt some people but at the same time I think to myself, "Shoot the bastard?"

Is that where it's at now? Is that where we're at? We're just killing each other just like that? Is that what's on our doorstep now?

He wasn't a victim of White racism, driven to desperation.

He came to NZ on a student visa, so he was probably more privileged than the
White people he'd just stabbed.

 

[Champakian]

Rand postulates that man is a measurer, which might very well be true,
but to adhere to a mathematical theme, man is also a divider
(as well as being a multiplier)...

 

[Sean Renaud]

He wasn't a victim of White racism, driven to desperation.

He came to NZ on a student visa, so he was probably more privileged than the
White people he'd just stabbed.

The that isn't how it works however. Without knowing what his life was like BEFORE (And even then it doesn't work that way cus one thing white people have had so good for so long is that 'crew look after crew' is a thing) that's not important. So we don't know how "oppressed" he was or wasn't in the grand scheme of things. I'm not overly familiar with whatever country he's from and their culture. But for the sake of ease Mike Tyson or a lot of rappers getting rich the only way they could. As entertainers because the schools were shit and college recruiters were not going there no matter your grades are still fucking oppressed.

I'm not defending the individual on any real level just pointing out if you think "I escaped the ghetto or whatever they call it in Muslim countries doesn't mean the West didn't bomb the shit out of your uncle and havn't got you economically cut off from much of the world.

After what happened at the Lindt Cafe in Sydney...

I thought everything would be okay and they'd arrest the guy.

People died and it was not okay.

My sister tells me there was a terrorist attack in Auckland New Zealand today and my first response is "Shoot the bastard"

And I'm glad they did because apparently he was a nutter and really hurt some people but at the same time I think to myself, "Shoot the bastard?"

Is that where it's at now? Is that where we're at? We're just killing each other just like that? Is that what's on our doorstep now?

Honestly its a 50/50 here. It wasn't a member of your friends and family so you should able to remain objective. I don't recall any Aussies in Iraq but I didn't see EVERYBODY. But anger is natural just towards people attacking your people.

I do think cops should deesculate and without more details than I saw I don't know if isolating this individual until back up arrived was a realistic option. I don't mind shooting armed criminals if they are within about 30 feet of you. (The average handgun shooter is lucky to hit you if you're 25 feet away, and if you haven't drawn your weapon you're basically both dead even if you're trained. She close enough that unless you score a head shot you shouldn't be taking they could easily make it to you and stab you and if you miss you are screwed. I am NOT a pacifist.

I think you are reacting from a place of emotion and that is never a good thing. I get it, everybody does it and does it in different ways. I cannot dislike you for THAT.

I don't know much about NZ but I know America isn't at that point unless we're at our own throats. Have you ever wondered why Muslim attacks in literally EVERY country are REALLY rare. Except ONE.

When you hear about a terrorist attack isn't it almost always France? You know the country that has two or three generations of refugees and their children who have never been given citizen ship. The country that thought banning the Burkini was even worth their time was an issue. Why is it that when you hear that a truck van went off the road you really aren't shocked. The same way you aren't shocked when you hear about a school shooting you know what count its in and it ain't Germany.

Its pretty simple. We do have a vocal and overly powerful minority but when a Muslim moves in our "General" attitude is "Okay, no beer, no shrimp, sorry I'll send someone out for beef dogs and no bacon. Cool Well we got soda, burgers and beer ribs"

I do not believe that is a coincidence. Again I said I don't know much of your country other than you had a really good handle on Covid. But I don't think you as a people are there. I fell like you had a reaction.

I'm black, I do not HATE police but every time (and if you watch the international rules I have to hear this at least twice a year and it happens more than that) I do get reaction whenever I hear about the latest police shooting I'm not always the happiest camper and might fall into that 'Fuck the Police' mode but its a temp thing.

 

[juttjaw]

Police have shot the wrong people before. In the firing line. They've killed innocent people before. I understand that


It's not that. It's not that at all. It's the fact that I'm so "yes please shoot him" now. Never in my life have I ever thought I'd be okay with killing someone. Just letting someone have it. Thou shalt not and and all that.

It's fucking crazy.

I get it. I get exactly what you mean. Ive often thought the same thing. Its a desensitization we have become accustomed to. Its not if they deserved it, or if it was the right thing, its the fact that our brain automatically wants retribution. Almost senseless retribution. Death is first, questions come later.

I think its called being introspective. Thinking about why we think about certain things. Looking deeper for our own meanings and reasons. Its called intelligence. Its refreshing to see.

 

[mayfly13]

The that isn't how it works however. Without knowing what his life was like BEFORE (And even then it doesn't work that way cus one thing white people have had so good for so long is that 'crew look after crew' is a thing) that's not important. So we don't know how "oppressed" he was or wasn't in the grand scheme of things. I'm not overly familiar with whatever country he's from and their culture. But for the sake of ease Mike Tyson or a lot of rappers getting rich the only way they could. As entertainers because the schools were shit and college recruiters were not going there no matter your grades are still fucking oppressed.

I'm not defending the individual on any real level just pointing out if you think "I escaped the ghetto or whatever they call it in Muslim countries doesn't mean the West didn't bomb the shit out of your uncle and havn't got you economically cut off from much of the world.
.

I was trying to troll-provoke GS because Philthy's and Bigg's trolling cracked me up.
But you made some interesting points.

Apparently he's Shri Lankan, which is pretty unusual as far as murder-suicide attackers are concerned.

I don't know much about Shi Lancans, other than that the handful I've met were very personable, modest and warm.
And that they are looked down upon by Indians, just like Eastern Europeans are looked down upon by Brits. Indian immigs are terribly discriminated against in Australia and the UK, but their men are no angels either. I found many of them to be arrogant and smug, and to suffer from a superiority complex cuz both 'superior culture' and British colonies.

I'm baffled that he was Shri Lankan??
Yes, India and Shri Lanka are former colonies, but their oppression stopped in 1950, unlike the ongoing pillage of the Middle East.