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IS THIS MAN THE NEW ABRAMOVICH OR IS HE A FRONT FOR THE REAL THING?
Author: Alex Bellos

Spending spree by Corinthians raises suspicions among Brazilian fans about source of investment

Alex Bellos
Friday December 10, 2004
The Guardian

The story sounds familiar. A mysterious foreign businessman in his 30s with no previous football experience takes control of one of the biggest clubs in the country. He immediately smashes the club transfer record and promises to make the team the best in the continent.

Yet this is not about England, Chelsea and Roman Abramovich but about Brazil, Corinthians and a British entrepreneur called Kia Joorabchian.

Last week South American football was in a state of shock with the announcement that the Argentina international Carlos Tévez was moving from Boca Juniors to Corinthians for $22m (£11.4m). Tévez, 20, was the leading scorer in this year's Olympics and is considered his country's most exciting young player.

It was by far the most a Brazilian club had ever paid for a player and it was also unprecedented that such a promising talent had moved within his own continent - let alone to a nation considered arch-rivals - rather than to Europe. The Brazilian league is broke and clubs' finances usually depend on selling players abroad.

"Brazilian football doesn't have the resources to maintain a player like Tévez," said Juca Kfouri, Brazil's top sports journalist, expressing the bewilderment and suspicion that the transfer has provoked.

The Tévez deal is, however, a remarkable coup for the London-based Joorabchian, whose firm Media Sport Investment has promised to plough another $35m (£18.2m) into the team. "Our plan is to build Corinthians into a team of galácticos ," he said. "Our goal is to do what Man United and Real Madrid have done. Everyone else who goes to Brazil goes there to trade players. They don't do anything constructive for Brazilian football." He has promised Corinthians three Brazilians of international standard and at least another foreign player for next season.

Yet in the four months since Joorabchian arrived in Brazil, his plans have met with scepticism. Questions have focused on the investors behind MSI and possible links with the Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky, who is living in exile in Britain. Joorabchian says the men are friends and have done business before but insists that Berezovsky is not behind MSI.

There has also been speculation that the man behind the plan is in fact Abramovich himself. The Spanish sports daily As claimed this weekend that the Chelsea owner has a 15% share of MSI, suggesting the Corinthians deal is part of a plan to control the Latin American market. Tantalisingly, there are reports that Abramovich's yacht, Le Grand Blue, was spotted in Buenos Aires harbour days before the Tévez deal was announced. Joorabchian categorically denies any involvement with Abramovich. "We have no link with Chelsea," he says.

The 10-year deal between MSI and Corinthians stipulates that the company will provide $35m cash, of which about $20m will pay off debts, in return for 51% of future profits while covering any losses. The transfer of Tévez is extra, considered a "present" by Joorabchian to the club.

Critics of the deal say that not enough is known about Joorabchian and MSI, a company created in August whose registered address is that of an accountancy firm in central London. Joorabchian has refused to say who the investors are, saying this is common practice for any investment fund.

With an estimated 25m fans in Brazil, Corinthians are the second most popular team in the country and the biggest team in São Paulo, which is the richest and most populous state in Brazil. The club, named after the old London amateur team, won Fifa's inaugural World Club Championship in 2000 but since then the team has slumped dramatically.

Joorabchian hopes to turn Corinthians into a global brand and also make money by exploiting the merchandising possibilities of such a well-supported team.

Born in Iran and educated in Britain, Joorabchian first appeared in the media in 1999 when he and a partner bought an 85% stake in the Moscow newspaper Kommersant using an investment fund based in the British Virgin Islands. "We sold it to a group that [Berezovsky] had an interest in," he said, adding that he has not done business with Berezovsky since.

The Kommersant deal started the speculation about Berezovsky's involvement, which appeared strengthened by comments in the Brazilian press attributed to Alberto Dualib, the Corinthians president. In transcripts of a tape recording, he said that on a recent visit to the UK with Joorabchian the two had visited Berezovsky's home near London.

Joorabchian has never been involved in football before, although he has a wide portfolio of business interests. In the register of directorships at Companies House he gives two different dates of birth - both make him 33 - and two nationalities, Canadian and British.

He said this week that he decided to move into football because he got bored with working in private equity. "We researched a little bit into Arsenal. It was far, far too expensive," he said. "I have a lot of Brazilian friends, so I looked into Brazilian football. It made sense."

Brazilian wariness about Joorabchian was high lighted by the fact that he is using Renato Duprat as his intermediary. Duprat is a controversial figure; he used to run a hospital and health insurance plan that went bust and he is now facing legal action.

One of those against the deal was Rubens Approbato Machado, a former president of the Brazilian equivalent of the Bar Council. He said that investigations of Joorabchian's business links had raised more questions than answers.

"Many doubts have been raised about the aptness of the person behind [MSI],
" he said. "Many things have not been clearly explained. No one is against partnership if both sides are well defined. But this is not a partnership. It is almost an outright sale." Ronaldo Pinto, who is president of the supporters group Hawks of the Faithful, added: "We are against it because we think that only a Corintiano should be in charge of Corinthians. These people want to get in the Brazilian market. I don't know who they are or why."


and then we had.....


Tevez: 'Chelsea want me' 16/05/06

Carlos Tevez has claimed "Chelsea intend to take him" and admits to being flattered by the attention he has received from the Premiership champions.

Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon confirmed over the weekend that the London club had looked at the player but brushed aside speculation that the Blues were about to sign the 22-year-old.

However, Tevez, whose dynamic displays for Brazilian giants Corinthians have earned him a place in Argentina's World Cup squad, told Fox Sports in Argentina: "Chelsea intend to take me.

"It's difficult to distance myself from them because they've shown a lot of affection towards me and my family."


Asked about Jose Mourinho's recent visit to Brazil to watch Tevez play for Corinthians against River Plate in the Copa Libertadores.

"The chances are there," he said. "He's (Mourinho) looking at what's there


Today we have....


West Ham sign Tevez & Mascherano

West Ham have pulled off a major coup by signing Argentina World Cup stars Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano.

Striker Tevez, 22, and midfielder Mascherano, 22, join the Hammers from Brazilian side Corinthians on permanent deals for undisclosed fees.

The pair have been linked with moves to Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea.

But the Hammers are thought to have struck a deal with Media Sports Investments, who own the rights to the two players.

MSI were linked with a takeover of West Ham last season but eventually pulled out.

The club said: "West Ham United are delighted to announce the double signing of Argentinian World Cup stars Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Brazilian club Corinthians.

"The pair have been signed for an undisclosed fee and put pen-to-paper on permanent contracts with the club this afternoon. All other aspects of the transfers will remain confidential and undisclosed.

"The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo."

Tevez has emerged as one the most highly rated young strikers in the world since signing for Corinthians from Boca Juniors for £9.5m in December 2004.

He has been strongly linked with Chelsea this summer, with a transfer fee of between £20m and £60m being reported.

In May, Kia Joorabchian, the president of London-based MSI, said: "Tevez will leave Corinthians if a team pays the contract's release clause, which is between £69m and £83m."

Both Tevez and Mascherano returned to Argentina's squad for Sunday's friendly against Brazil at Arsenal's Emirates Stadium after signings their deals.


Money laundering Via international sport? never..... but if Ambramovic is connected to MSI.....

(p.s. i dont care if no one responds, see my sig line photo :D )
 
man utd fans are whiners ... they started the fake plastic football trend and now they moan about chelsea ... real fans support their local clubs anyway

tevez is overrated anyway hasn't got a very good international record
 
sexy-girl said:
man utd fans are whiners ... they started the fake plastic football trend and now they moan about chelsea ... real fans support their local clubs anyway

tevez is overrated anyway hasn't got a very good international record

to a degree, you make a good point. but if the entire sport collapses?
 
being a palace fan i'm not going to be that bothered if the premier league collasped (i enjoy watching championship games over PL games anyway)

and if the whole league collapsed i'd watch my local non league team (which i do sometimes anyway)
 
sexy-girl said:
man utd fans are whiners ... they started the fake plastic football trend and now they moan about chelsea ... real fans support their local clubs anyway

tevez is overrated anyway hasn't got a very good international record
Erm, Man U IS my local team. Well, it's not now, but for the first twenty odd years of my life it was. I aint gonna support Woking just because I moved down here.
 
SeanH said:
Erm, Man U IS my local team. Well, it's not now, but for the first twenty odd years of my life it was. I aint gonna support Woking just because I moved down here.

what about flixton FC ? :)
 
sexy-girl said:
what about flixton FC ? :)
Wrong side of Manc for me. I used to go and watch Stockport County if the reds were playing too far away for me to get to though. And Altrincham occasionally. (Hob will piss himself laughing when he sees thst)
 
SeanH said:
Wrong side of Manc for me. I used to go and watch Stockport County if the reds were playing too far away for me to get to though. And Altrincham occasionally. (Hob will piss himself laughing when he sees thst)

I'm still getting over the Flixton bit :D

So if the premier league collapses due to being so bent out of shape it falls over, what is the point in the championship continuing?

~mutters~ Flixton for fucks sake~ shakes head.
 
typical man utd fan ... "whats the point of the championship if you can't dream of playing us one day" pffffffst

i'd rather watch palace beat brighton than watch us beat man utd :)

SeanH said:
Wrong side of Manc for me. I used to go and watch Stockport County if the reds were playing too far away for me to get to though. And Altrincham occasionally. (Hob will piss himself laughing when he sees thst)

i think that's cool then ... at least you get to see some real football now and then :)
 
sexy-girl said:
typical man utd fan ... "whats the point of the championship if you can't dream of playing us one day" pffffffst

my point was, whats the point of the championship, if the winners have nowhere to go? i.e. no promotion?

i couldnt care less if we never play palace, or oldham, or any other glorified pub team ( :D )

my bigger point was, if corruption seriously takes hold, we could soon face an italian situation.
 
hobbit. said:
my point was, whats the point of the championship, if the winners have nowhere to go? i.e. no promotion?

i couldnt care less if we never play palace, or oldham, or any other glorified pub team ( :D )

my bigger point was, if corruption seriously takes hold, we could soon face an italian situation.
At least the shirts would be cool. :D
 
SeanH said:
Wrong side of Manc for me. I used to go and watch Stockport County if the reds were playing too far away for me to get to though. And Altrincham occasionally. (Hob will piss himself laughing when he sees thst)



Small world. I'm a Manchester United Fan living in the Manchester vicinity.

I know all about Stockport county -even visited their ground once!
 
hobbit. said:
my point was, whats the point of the championship, if the winners have nowhere to go? i.e. no promotion?

we could beat brighton again ... if they could ever get back into the championship
 
sexy-girl said:
we could beat brighton again ... if they could ever get back into the championship


thats stretching reality a bit to far :D

nice to see a few arses twitching over the russian mafia takeover though. :D
 
I told you Tevez was going to Upton Park you fucker!
 
hobbit. said:
the fucking contract was signed and public by that stage.... it stinks. the good news is that 'the special one' and peter 'the cunt' kenyon have had a major spat over the sale of william gallas, seems the special one wanted gallas to rot in the reserves.....

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/01092006/1/mourinho-fury-gallas-departure.html
The funny thing is, both sides think they got a bad deal. I know both gooners and chelski scum down here, and they're both pissed off.
 
SeanH said:
The funny thing is, both sides think they got a bad deal. I know both gooners and chelski scum down here, and they're both pissed off.

possibly a KGBfc smokescreen to cover the abramovic/msi /west ham fiasco.. oh look msi now want to 'aqquire' west ham... shock horror, yet no probe.
 
hobbit. said:
possibly a KGBfc smokescreen to cover the abramovic/msi /west ham fiasco.. oh look msi now want to 'aqquire' west ham... shock horror, yet no probe.
The Cole thing stinks, that's a fact. Tip of the iceberg?
 
SeanH said:
The Cole thing stinks, that's a fact. Tip of the iceberg?

is that a 'joe cole is gay' joke :D KGBfc sspent 18 months stalking a gay footballer just as MCFC joined stonewall.. maybe 'the special one' needs some TLC :devil:
 
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