Is it true or some kind of sick joke....

[SnoopDog]

Talking about morals....

I just heard that there was a new video game that you can purchase over the net which is called 'JFK - Reloaded'.

You are playing Oswalds character and have to kill Pres. Kennedy in Texas. You have a sniper rifle and are to be as 'hystorical correct' as possible. The more correct you shoot, the more points you get. Minus points for hitting Jackie.

The game's distributor even has a money-prize for the best shooters.

I mean, seriously, what the fuck is this????

Will there ever be people with no ethics or morals at all????

How low can you get?

Isn't there someone from that company that looked at that idea and said, 'Well, I know we can make a lot of money out of this scandal, but hey, I think we better not...' ???

Snoopy, seriously disgusted.

 

[Bandit1]

About 3 or 4 months after the Columbine shooting spree, there was a video game out on the net using the "Doom" engine that was called "Hunting at Columbine" where the object was to shoot as many students and teachers as possible.

There was also a game called "City Sniper" that came out right towrds the end of the Washington DC area sniper attacks.

Some people display a deplorable lack of taste.

 

[Edward Teach]

It's true. Saw it on the TV news last night. Kennedy family had not as then made a statement.

You are looking through cross hairs as the Kennedy limo makes its way through Dealy Plaza.

The purpose of the game according to the publishers? Why to teach kids history, of course.

Ed

 

[OhMissScarlett]

I wonder how the game writer would feel if that was their father or mother in the cross hairs? I hope the Kennedys sue the pants off them. I really wouldn't want to piss off a family of lawyers, would you?

 

[Raging Whoremoans]

I'm torn on this. Sure, I'm disgusted at the thought of a historical murder being made into a game for teenagers, but I instantly think of Grand Theft Auto and the times I've argued in favor of it. Actually, I never argued in favor of the game itself, but always stand on the side of parental involvement. I wasn't allowed to play video games as a child because my Mother wanted us to experience a childhood of outdoors and friends. When I got older and played them anyway, my parents made it their business to know what I was into and what I thought about the violence or innuendo. They knew that forbidding it would only drive me to play it more and decided to take the high road and be sure I realized it was no more real than a cartoon.

I never did admit that I got my hands on my best friend's father's copy of Leisure Suit Larry, and here I am. So I'm not an overly violent person, but I spend time at a porn site.

They did what they could. The rest is on me.

 

[Edward Teach]

I'm torn on this. Sure, I'm disgusted at the thought of a historical murder being made into a game for teenagers, but I instantly think of Grand Theft Auto and the times I've argued in favor of it. Actually, I never argued in favor of the game itself, but always stand on the side of parental involvement. I wasn't allowed to play video games as a child because my Mother wanted us to experience a childhood of outdoors and friends. When I got older and played them anyway, my parents made it their business to know what I was into and what I thought about the violence or innuendo. They knew that forbidding it would only drive me to play it more and decided to take the high road and be sure I realized it was no more real than a cartoon.

I never did admit that I got my hands on my best friend's father's copy of Leisure Suit Larry, and here I am. So I'm not an overly violent person, but I spend time at a porn site.

They did what they could. The rest is on me.

Leisure Suit Larry did it to you, huh. I think maybe Chip's Challenge drove me here. Well, that and Phantasmagoria.


Stup Dity

 

[shereads]

The distributor says it's an educational game that will help disprove conspiracy theories.

I bet they're donating the money to charity.

No wonder poor Ted Kennedy drinks. Who wouldn't? For decades, this family has been targeted for every kind of cruelty, deliberate and accidental. I'd take my millions and live on an island in the South Pacific, and forget the poor and the public schools and the elderly and the environment and all that do-gooder stuff. But somehow they shrug it off and keep going.

Talking about morals....

I just heard that there was a new video game that you can purchase over the net which is called 'JFK - Reloaded'.

You are playing Oswalds character and have to kill Pres. Kennedy in Texas. You have a sniper rifle and are to be as 'hystorical correct' as possible. The more correct you shoot, the more points you get. Minus points for hitting Jackie.

The game's distributor even has a money-prize for the best shooters.

I mean, seriously, what the fuck is this????

Will there ever be people with no ethics or morals at all????

How low can you get?

Isn't there someone from that company that looked at that idea and said, 'Well, I know we can make a lot of money out of this scandal, but hey, I think we better not...' ???

Snoopy, seriously disgusted.

 

[shereads]

oops

 

[SnoopDog]

About 3 or 4 months after the Columbine shooting spree, there was a video game out on the net using the "Doom" engine that was called "Hunting at Columbine" where the object was to shoot as many students and teachers as possible.

There was also a game called "City Sniper" that came out right towrds the end of the Washington DC area sniper attacks.

Some people display a deplorable lack of taste.

That's just sick. *shakes head*

Snoopy

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Hmm, on one hand I pretty much side with video games against most of the Paranoid Parents Association's attacks on them. On the other, they're marketing a presidential assassain game to children. Children young enough not to know history. I mean, c'mon. At least games like GTA and Silent Hill are pretty explicit about their target audience being college students and mature high schoolers.

But also in the interest of balance, this story says more about people than it does about video game manufacturers. Yes, someone made a game about killing JFK. Would they have done this if they didn't think enough people would purchase it? That enough people would believe that would be a fun way to spend the afternoon?

And now to be even more balanced, can we truly condemn them because of tastes? I have known many people who helped maintain a pacifist lifestyle through the playing of violent bloodthirsty games like Tribes and GTA. They well understood the difference between reality and fiction and used the games as a forum to blow off steam without resorting to violence on a real person in the way players of "healthy activities" such as football and baseball did. Sadism against pixels does not translate often into sadism against people. Furthermore, there are actually violent video games out there that try and train a form of morality into the players. Games like Metal Gear Solid where you are faced with the tragic death scenes of the bosses you kill and are rewarded for how many people you avoid hurting do this even though the opportunities to strap C4 to a guard's back or snipe someone's head off exist.

So, I guess in the end, I've looped around to ambivalent. The company is wrong to market an assassaination game as a history tutor for children and should have gotten permission from any real figures before releasing, but besides that I raise no real objections to the game's existence itself.

 

[Lisa Denton]

Talking about morals....

I just heard that there was a new video game that you can purchase over the net which is called 'JFK - Reloaded'.

You are playing Oswalds character and have to kill Pres. Kennedy in Texas. You have a sniper rifle and are to be as 'hystorical correct' as possible. The more correct you shoot, the more points you get. Minus points for hitting Jackie.

The game's distributor even has a money-prize for the best shooters.

I mean, seriously, what the fuck is this????

Will there ever be people with no ethics or morals at all????

How low can you get?

Isn't there someone from that company that looked at that idea and said, 'Well, I know we can make a lot of money out of this scandal, but hey, I think we better not...' ???

Snoopy, seriously disgusted.

I want a game where we shoot the sick fucks who make this game!!!

Oooops, sorry about the language.

I'm not really sorry. I don't get too upset about anything said here anymore, but this is just plain WRONG.

Maybe because I live in the city where this took place my feelings run strong. Maybe here they stress this more in our history, but I believe they teach history in every school in this country.

"ASK NOT, WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU."

He wasn't a great speaker, he was a great man. A fucking GAME about his death is not appropriate and totally ignores his life in the role of history.

A country felt sadness and pain, a city felt shame and guilt.

This game has nothing to do with the life of a great man who did great things in the history of America, reducing his life to a few sick moments of tragedy and death.

I don't have any problem with games, if parents choose to participate in the life of their children and only let them play games they deem appropiate for that age group, then they are good parents.

Good parents don't have to worry if their children play these games at a friends or neighbors house. They have taught those children the difference between right and wrong, and the difference between games and reality.

Violent games are one thing, sick twisted mockeries of a great man's death is another thing.

This game will teach the history of a great man as "J.F.K., yea he was some guy shot in Dallas."

Oh well, thats my lil rant from Dallas, TX.

Have a nice day, tell your children about the LIFE of J.F.K.

 

[Boota]

Maybe the makers of this game are doing something positive that isn't being examined? Maybe they are hoping to inspire someone to practice enough to take a shot at the President we have now?

Here's to silver linings.

Other than that, yes, it is a sick fucking game idea. But really, the only difference is the historical personage. The same objectives are in hundreds of games. Shooting people is shooting people. This game just put a real face on the target.

Kind of reminds me of the Valentine's Card I made a few years ago: "We go together like Kennedy's and head wounds."

I'm trying to be offended and morally outraged at this game, but it's just not working for me.

 

[Guest]

This is outrageous!

Off to play a bit of Postal 2, and kill some shit, to get some of the rage out of my system...



Lou

P.S. When I read your first post, Snoop, I immediately thought, "They're trying to disprove the conspiracy theory." Public servants and all that. Bollocks, in other words.

 

[oggbashan]

The technology is new; the idea isn't.

During WWI there were board games produced about the war. They were basically variations of Ludo or Snakes and Ladders but at least one included penalties such as:

'Raped Belgian Nuns' - Miss a turn.

'Shelled a Church' - go back three spaces.

'Saw Angels of Mons' - go on two spaces.

'Committed unwitnessed atrocity' Have another throw.

'Sunk neutral ship' - Miss a turn.

I don't know whether the games sold well.

Og

 

[millennium_bard]

Just curious. How many people would be complaining if the target in the game were GW Bush?

 

[SnoopDog]

This is outrageous!

Off to play a bit of Postal 2, and kill some shit, to get some of the rage out of my system...



Lou

P.S. When I read your first post, Snoop, I immediately thought, "They're trying to disprove the conspiracy theory." Public servants and all that. Bollocks, in other words.

Well, that would be the only explanation for such ag ame, lol.
Proving it WAS possible.

Just curious. How many people would be complaining if the target in the game were GW Bush?

Honestly ? I would.

Even if I don't agree with the presidents politics, believe he is quite a dumbo and am doubtful about his character and morals, I think he deserves to be treated like any other human being.

I also want to add, that I sometimes play first person shooters and I'm aware that some of them are kinda dangerous for kids BUT I just thought that this was crossing a line. I mean hey, how must Kennedy's family feel ?

Snoopy

 

[Lauren Hynde]

I agree with the entire post of the Prince of Darkness up there.

I also want to add, that I sometimes play first person shooters and I'm aware that some of them are kinda dangerous for kids BUT I just thought that this was crossing a line. I mean hey, how must Kennedy's family feel ?

Snoop, the only first person shooters than are dangerous to kids are the ones with real guns and live ammo.

You're a sweet guy, but there are a lot more things in the world to be disgusted about other than bad marketing.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I agree with the entire post of the Prince of Darkness up there.
Snoop, the only first person shooters than are dangerous to kids are the ones with real guns and live ammo.

You're a sweet guy, but there are a lot more things in the world to be disgusted about other than bad marketing.

Golly gee, sometimes you're so smart and it makes me want to care.

 

[SnoopDog]

I agree with the entire post of the Prince of Darkness up there.
Snoop, the only first person shooters than are dangerous to kids are the ones with real guns and live ammo.

You're a sweet guy, but there are a lot more things in the world to be disgusted about other than bad marketing.

a.) I know there are a lot more things to be disgusted about...and I am. I never said this was the only one.

b.) I never said that First Person Shooters were dangerous in general or the only single thing to make a kid 'snap'. It just can add things or be the drop to make the barrel flow over.

Snoopy, tired of being misunderstood on Lit.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Snoopy, tired of being misunderstood on Lit.

Not misunderstood lovepuppy, you are a sensitive and beautiful soul that can only see things for their goodness so when it seems like you are being upset over something you find shocking or hateful, we tend to want to "pick up the Puppy" and make it better.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

a.) I know there are a lot more things to be disgusted about...and I am. I never said this was the only one.

What I meant by that was that if you're going to be disgusted by this, you're in for a rough ride...

b.) I never said that First Person Shooters were dangerous in general or the only single thing to make a kid 'snap'. It just can add things or be the drop to make the barrel flow over.

Can it really? Or can it be one of the things that keeps the barrel from ever overflowing?

Snoopy, tired of being misunderstood on Lit.

Ever stopped to think that maybe the guy who designed the game is tired of being misunderstood as well?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Re: Re: Is it true or some kind of sick joke....

he was a great man.

Well, actually, no, he was an asshole who cheated on his wife. And rumours has it he had connections to the mob, too.

But I agree that it's morally wrong to make murder entertainment.

I refuse to count in Civilization in here, though.

 

[Lisa Denton]

Re: Re: Re: Is it true or some kind of sick joke....

Well, actually, no, he was an asshole who cheated on his wife. And rumours has it he had connections to the mob, too.

I dunno if those two sentences are an accurate assesment of his accomplishments as President of the U.S. from a historical perspective.

I did some research on him once that went a little further than that. My opinion that he was a great man had less to do with his personal life and rumours, but opinions are like ...............

My brother is always giving me his old shoot-em-up games and some are fun. I can kill some monsters or save the world for a half hour and then go back to work feeling refreshed.

The company marketing this game is probably using the outrage as a damn good advertising tool. I just feel that games should be fun and entertaining. When I try to picture a family spending some quality time together taking turns trying to kill a man it kinda makes me want to puke.

Anywho, I guess the game will do well and children the world over will learn about history as they try to shoot a wife-cheating mobster associate dead, saving the world from infidelity and even worse evils.

The game manufacturers do say it has educational value teaching history, which I obviously need.

I will use my money to voice my opinion by not purchasing this game I deem not appropriate for any age group.

 

[Bridget69]

What will they do next? A game which reinacts the attacks on the World Trade Center?

 

[Lisa Denton]

What will they do next? A game which reinacts the attacks on the World Trade Center?

OMG. You are prolly right.