Is it possible to come to a consensus?

[AirRichard101]

Is it cum or come? I've heard every possible explanation. Some say cum is only for semen, the male ejaculate, while come is the orgasm such as 'I'm ready to come.'

The problem I see is many uses of come can be ambiguous. 'I want to come with you.' 'I came in the back door.'

In the urban dictionary, some entries suggest cum is the ONLY spelling for both meanings and spelling it as come is for the uniformed.

Is it only an author's preference that matters?

 

[StrangeLife]

The way I've understood it "come" is a verb and "cum" is a noun. So after you come there might be cum on the sheets...

 

[RejectReality]

It's not only the author's preference that matters, as the occasional comment from Anonymous telling you that "come" is wrong can attest to.

If you look it up in the dictionary, "come" is accepted as both orgasm and ejaculate. It's perfectly legitimate to use it, regardless of how a few people feel about it.

That few is what makes the decision for me. Trying to conjugate "cum" into other verb tenses makes me roll my eyes. It looks fucking ridiculous to me. So until such time as a large enough number of people are complaining about using "come" for the verb, that's what I'm going with.

By the same token, "come" as the noun feels a little too dime-store romance novel to me. Nobody's complaining about the use of "cum" there, so that's the way I go.

 

[sr71plt]

The way I've understood it "come" is a verb and "cum" is a noun. So after you come there might be cum on the sheets...

This has become the most reader accepted, I think.

 

[patientlee]

Is it cum or come? I've heard every possible explanation. Some say cum is only for semen, the male ejaculate, while come is the orgasm such as 'I'm ready to come.'

The problem I see is many uses of come can be ambiguous. 'I want to come with you.' 'I came in the back door.'

In the urban dictionary, some entries suggest cum is the ONLY spelling for both meanings and spelling it as come is for the uniformed.

Is it only an author's preference that matters?

It is much easier for me to teach the verb "to come" to teenagers without reacting to their comments (which, of course, I don't understand because this generation invented the concept of orgasm obviously) if I think of them as completely separate words. I prefer cum only for that reason.

Fortunately, "back door" is not on any of my vocab lists.

 

[PennLady]

The way I've understood it "come" is a verb and "cum" is a noun. So after you come there might be cum on the sheets...

This is what I've seen for some publishers that publish erotic stories. It's in their submission requirements, and it's what I do.

And I agree with RR -- I think the conjugations of "cum" look just silly, especially when it's a long, drawn-out exclamation from someone in the middle of the act.

 

[xelliebabex]

Fortunately, "back door" is not on any of my vocab lists.

*Thinks poor you and gets a red crayon and scrawls onto all of your vocab lists so you don't miss all the fun!*

 

[AirRichard101]

This is what I've seen for some publishers that publish erotic stories. It's in their submission requirements, and it's what I do.

And I agree with RR -- I think the conjugations of "cum" look just silly, especially when it's a long, drawn-out exclamation from someone in the middle of the act.

Thanks PL, a comment about publisher's submission requirements is what I hoped to get, that being more important than the readers' comments here.

There does seem to be a consensus from other authors and I sought that as well. Thank you to all.

Now, as for the protracted exclamation, I feel the opposite; the first looks wrong because of the 'e' hung way off on the end:

"Oh God, I'm gonna commmmmmmme!"

"Oh God, I'm gonna cummmmmmmm!"

 

[lovecraft68]

Come is supposed to be the verb, with cum as the noun as someone else said

But now I'll throw something else out there.

Coming vs cumming.

If come is right then they should be coming, but that does not look right and coming has its own definition so it should be cumming.

The only time I have ever got "Come is this and cum is this" is from an editor. No reader has ever complained.

IMO if they are in the middle of the sex scene and that is sticking out to them it means one of two things. The sex isn't hot enough to hold their interest, or they're such a grammar nerd they can ruin their own wet dreams with being nit picky.

 

[AirRichard101]

Come is supposed to be the verb, with cum as the noun as someone else said

But now I'll throw something else out there.

Coming vs cumming.

If come is right then they should be coming, but that does not look right and coming has its own definition so it should be cumming.

The only time I have ever got "Come is this and cum is this" is from an editor. No reader has ever complained.

IMO if they are in the middle of the sex scene and that is sticking out to them it means one of two things. The sex isn't hot enough to hold their interest, or they're such a grammar nerd they can ruin their own wet dreams with being nit picky.

To stir the pot...

Cum is the noun, meaning the semen and also the ejaculate. But ejaculate is both a noun and a verb. So...

'She didn't want me to ejaculate in her mouth' and 'She didn't want my ejaculate in her mouth' explain the word use precisely but that sounds formal and clunky; besides, who goes to that extent writing porn? Excuse me, erotica.

Another cloud for the issue: In dialogue which is often informal and even purposely spelled phonetically, "It's okay to cum inside me, baby." looks right.

A note to LC: Or as Mel Brooks might say, "...a picky nit."

 

[PennLady]

To stir the pot...

Cum is the noun, meaning the semen and also the ejaculate. But ejaculate is both a noun and a verb. So...

'She didn't want me to ejaculate in her mouth' and 'She didn't want my ejaculate in her mouth' explain the word use precisely but that sounds formal and clunky; besides, who goes to that extent writing porn? Excuse me, erotica.

Another cloud for the issue: In dialogue which is often informal and even purposely spelled phonetically, "It's okay to cum inside me, baby." looks right.

A note to LC: Or as Mel Brooks might say, "...a picky nit."

But that might get you rejected at a publisher. It won't get you rejected here, so it doesn't matter in that sense, of course. It doesn't look right to me, but it wouldn't throw me out of story either.

 

[sr71plt]

'She didn't want me to ejaculate in her mouth' and 'She didn't want my ejaculate in her mouth' explain the word use precisely but that sounds formal and clunky; besides, who goes to that extent writing porn? Excuse me, erotica.

If you're doing an audio story, be sure and pronounce the verb and noun differently, of course.

 

[AirRichard101]

If you're doing an audio story, be sure and pronounce the verb and noun differently, of course.

Of course I would, but audio stories are too much work to hide the nuances of English spellings. Judging from the comments we receive, most readers are knuckle-draggers who are all too happy to find cum all over the place in the stories.

 

[sr71plt]

Of course I would, but audio stories are too much work to hide the nuances of English spellings. Judging from the comments we receive, most readers are knuckle-draggers who are all too happy to find cum all over the place in the stories.

I was referring to "ejaculate." The verb is pronounced with a long "a" on the last "a." The noun is pronounced with a short "a" on the last "a." So, it's only in spelling that the two uses are the same.

 

[AirRichard101]

I knew that. The second part was about cum/come and it was all a stage to deliver the joke in the third part.

 

[MatthewVett]

So the correct answer is no, it is not possible to cum to a consensus.

 

[sr71plt]

So the correct answer is no, it is not possible to cum to a consensus.

I think it is if the consensus has a good progressive beat like that old standby "Bolero" does.

 

[RawHumor]

That few is what makes the decision for me. Trying to conjugate "cum" into other verb tenses makes me roll my eyes. It looks fucking ridiculous to me. So until such time as a large enough number of people are complaining about using "come" for the verb, that's what I'm going with.

By the same token, "come" as the noun feels a little too dime-store romance novel to me. Nobody's complaining about the use of "cum" there, so that's the way I go.

In reality, come is the proper term for both the noun and the verb, but I also use cum as a noun, most of the time (if not all of the time).

Like you, I can't use cum as a verb because of conjugation. I cringe when I see "I just cummed". Really? Ouch.

I come, you come, he came, she came, can I come, are you about to come, let's all come together.

 

[sr71plt]

The Urban Dictionary seems to like the use of "cum" for both noun and verb (I'll continue to use "cum" only as a noun until the erotica publishers make some sort of switch away from that).

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cum

 

[RawHumor]

The Urban Dictionary seems to like the use of "cum" for both noun and verb (I'll continue to use "cum" only as a noun until the erotica publishers make some sort of switch away from that).

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cum

Perhaps, but isn't that sort of akin to saying that Wiki says it, so it must be true?

If you read old Penthouse forum or Playboy articles (maybe new, too... I don't know), they used "come" for both way back in the 80s or before.

Those had actual paid writers and editors.

 

[lovecraft68]

I guess the subject of cumming can really get people going.

But here is a point I want to make. Sunday is the day I usually set aside some time to read a little bit.

I read 4 stories here today. 1 incest, 2 group sex, 1 mature.

In every story there someone was "cumming" quite a bit of it in the 2 group sex stories.

That was a couple of hours ago.

Then I "come" back here and see this thread and it dawned on me I couldn't really remember what the authors used for cum/come etc...

So for me, case in point, does it really matter?

 

[RejectReality]

In reality, come is the proper term for both the noun and the verb

Fortunately, I...

*points at name in the corner*



I do point that out in the beginning of the post, though. Every so often I consider using it for the noun in really soft romantic pieces, but I always end up balking and going with something else entirely.

 

[RawHumor]

Fortunately, I...

*points at name in the corner*



I do point that out in the beginning of the post, though. Every so often I consider using it for the noun in really soft romantic pieces, but I always end up balking and going with something else entirely.

Hah! Nice...

I agree - it looks a bit hokey to me to use "come" as a noun. Maybe that's just because we've gotten so used to "cum" today.

BRB isn't a real word, but we all know what it means... it's the sound made when I motor boat a nice set of tits.

 

[sr71plt]

Perhaps, but isn't that sort of akin to saying that Wiki says it, so it must be true?

If you read old Penthouse forum or Playboy articles (maybe new, too... I don't know), they used "come" for both way back in the 80s or before.

Those had actual paid writers and editors.

We're not in the 80s anymore. And Penthouse and Playboy are tame ancient history.

Did you not note that I said I was following the erotica publishers rather than the Urban Dictionary on rendering of cum/come?

But, no, for the smut industry, the Urban Dictionary is more acceptable--because the smut industry is all for operating out there on the newest edge--than Wiki is to mainstream fact finding (and Wiki is slowly getting better and more respectable in the fact finding realm too).

 

[sr71plt]

In reality, come is the proper term for both the noun and the verb, but I also use cum as a noun, most of the time (if not all of the time).

Surprised I let this one slip by. Who says? What's your authoritative source for that?

You haven't cited a source with even the level of authority that the Urban Dictionary and Wiki have.