Is Homophobia a form of Homosexuality?

Brinnie said:
I'm trying to tie the two together.
I believe it is, but I need more information.

Homophobia

n : prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality

Homosexuality

n : a sexual attraction to (or sexual relations with) persons of the same sex

If you are trying to say that people that are homophobic are homosexual, i don't think that is true. Homophobics are more less informed be it their fault or their up bringing. i don't like to put people into a pigeon hole. People are a product of what they learn. Some grow up with a closed mind and others grow up with am open mind, be they straight or homo...... I am bi, and that reeks havoc with both fronts......much ado about nothing really. People shout what they want people to hear from the podiums and once they get off .......*well not that way* they forget all about it.

Live and let live. I really wonder how many really really like being gay, bi and straight. We all have our troubles now don't we. Life is a series of ups and downs, ins and outs.......some are great and some.........just are.......

thanks for making me think...and feel...

r :rose:
 
Robbie, I'm trying to PROVE a connection... You're not helping.
 
homophobia literally translated means fear of homosexuality. gay men are the last thing i run in fear from.(excluding prison)

butr it has been my experience that men who are deeply anti gay to the point of hatred or violence are closet homosexuals to the point of deneying themselves the knowledge or had it religously impressed upon them as a child.
 
Brinnie said:
Robbie, I'm trying to PROVE a connection... You're not helping.

you are a woman and a child and perhaps you will never understand never living it.. hope that helps
 
robbie_boy1 said:
you are a woman and a child and perhaps you will never understand never living it.. hope that helps
you're still not helping.
 
I think it is half and half. My sister's boyfriend said homosexuality defies logical biological terms (you know, reproduction). He did bring up the fact that if the whole world was gay, than we wouldn't exist. He also said it was all about choice. I don't really believe that. I think it is more than a choice, I think you are born gay or bi. The choice is when you choose to live the lifestyle based on your sexual attraction. I don't think someone just wakes up and says, "Well, it's a nice day, time to start fucking guys".
 
Honestly I just don't think its a very interesting question. Why can't we just say that they are assholes and move on. :rose:
 
There is no definitive proof that a homophobe is gay. There are some that are gay, there are I think more that aren't gay.

Now of course just because a man is a fashion designer does not mean he is gay, actually I'm pretty sure most men want to be a fashion designer when they are putting their designs on the model. ;)

Case in point, I actually had a male hairstylist, he danced about, he was chatty, and he was NOT gay, I know very much against what people think of a straight man acting. I actually dated him for a short while even, there was sex and he was very into it, I was to. :cattail:

The problem isn't so much that people are closed minded or open minded, it's very much the idea people have of a gay man or a gay woman. Gay men wear pink frilly things, dance about, have high pitched voices and squeal alot. Gay women are thought of as big women with gruff voices, don't wear makeup and boss people around. Once people can get the actualities and the idea of gay people to match, there will be tons less homophobes, anti gay whatevers and so forth.

It's actually funny, but homophobes aren't really against gay men or women, they are against the idea of them, this idea is based off what I said above. There are a few homophobes who have become friends with gay men or women, as soon as they found out, most stopped being a homophobe and instead stopped caring.

The one's who are against gay people no matter what are usually the ones who are gay themselves, not all of them mind you, just some.
 
bicuriousosaur said:
I think it is half and half. My sister's boyfriend said homosexuality defies logical biological terms (you know, reproduction). He did bring up the fact that if the whole world was gay, than we wouldn't exist.
LOL! I think it gets more funny every time I hear it! :D

Love defies logical biological terms. Kissing, cuddling, anal-sex, blow jobs, licking... They all defie logical biological terms...
Are we here to live to logical rules or to be happy?
Live gets only complicatet if you make it yourself...
 
I have heard that 75% of homophobes are gay, is that true, who knows not sure if I read it or not. But most people are more afraid of something they might be typically so who knows.

Sorry I cant help more
 
Where's Queersetti? I'd love to hear what he has to say about this.



My opinion: Homophobes do not have any more chance of being gay than non-homophobes.
 
I'm sure that deep within the turd pile of homophobia there are quite a few homophobexuals in the mix... I believe that those would be the ones most likely to take their hatred to a really bad level.. i/e Matthew Shephard.

It's been my observation (not a scientific fact by any means) that the repulsion exhibited by many straight men tends to be directed towards stereotypical effeminate-type behaviors coming from a guy... Seems that if the other "guy" acts more-or-less guy-like then it tends to be less of a threat... I'm not saying this is right or wrong thought processes to have but just what I've picked up over the years.

back to the issue at hand, one cannot totally dispell the cliche that basically states "Thou Protests Too Much" :cool:
 
Brinnie said:
I'm trying to tie the two together.

I found This Article but I need more information.
I wouldn't say "homophobia is a form of homosexuality." Maybe a sympthom of it. There are homosexuals that are themselves homophobic for whatever reasons such as being in denial, closeted, self hatred, fear, or cultural & societal pressures. That's so sad. Sad, in the sense that even in today's "new millenium" world this is something we're still dealing with and fighting. Yes, I agree that maybe apathy within the GLBT community could be contributing to the increase of homophobia, but there are other factors as well. It will always be there. Nevertheless I think we as GLBT people will always be having to come face to face with homophobia and deal with it like a bad cold. No, I don't believe homophobia is a "form" of homosexuality, but rather a painfull symptom.


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Darn it!

Now Brinnie, you just need to be all natural and smile for the camera.

I will make you a star. :catgrin:
 
I alwase beleaved that someone with a strong homophobia is just to afraid to step out of the closet.

and if you act homo twards such person they get all deffencive about it.

I know several ppl that are like that and I have reasion to beleave there stipping on something in the closet or keep hitting there head on the coathanger on the way out and get knocked back in.

These are my persional thoughts on this no need to take them to heart and if you do your mind is way to closed.
 
Interesting subject....

I have a brother who has admitted to me that he is a cd! However, he is a homophobe of note!! I have always been of the opinion that homophobes are latent homosexuals and they fight their true feelings because they have been taught that being gay "is not right"!!
To me that is a load of crap!! If you want to be gay, then by all means be gay. Who the hell am I to judge you for what you are?
 
It is generally accepted in the pscyhology community that those whoa re extremely hobphobic frequently (not always) have a deeply repressed desire for individuals of their own gender. Please note that this does not necessarily mean that they are a closet or latent homosexual.

Hornblower69 said:
I have a brother who has admitted to me that he is a cd! However, he is a homophobe of note!! I have always been of the opinion that homophobes are latent homosexuals and they fight their true feelings because they have been taught that being gay "is not right"!!
To me that is a load of crap!! If you want to be gay, then by all means be gay. Who the hell am I to judge you for what you are?

Crossdressing has nothing to do with homosexuality. In fact most corssdressers aren't gay.
 
Volz said:
Where's Queersetti? I'd love to hear what he has to say about this.



My opinion: Homophobes do not have any more chance of being gay than non-homophobes.


I think the issue gets confused by the imprecise way we use the term "homophobia".

If we make a distinction between those people who truly fit that description, that is, actually have a phobia about homosexuality, it seems logical to conclude that anyone that afraid of it must have some underlying feeling that they might, at the very least, have some homosexual tendencies. After all, people with a fear of flying, for example, don't panic at the thought of other people riding in airplanes.

But the term has been expanded to become a catchall for anyone with anti-homosexual attitudes or opinions, and in that regard, there is no reason to believe that there is a connection between "homophobia" and homosexuality. There are those who believe homosexuality is wrong based on their religious or political views who may not harbor any repressed personal feelings.
 
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Queersetti said:
I think the issue gets confused by the imprecise way we use the term "homophobia".

If we make a distinction between those people who truly fit that description, that is, actually have a phobia about homosexuality, it seems logical to conslude that anyone that afraid of it must have some underlying feeling that they might, at the very least, have some homosexual tendencies. After all, people with a fear of flying, for example, don't panic at the thought of other people riding in airplanes.

But the term has been expanded to become a catchall for anyone with anti-homosexual attitudes or opinions, and in that regard, there is no reason to believe that there is a connection between "homophobia" and homosexuality. There are those who believe homosexuality is wrong based on their religious or political views who may not harbor any repressed personal feelings.


But the relegious aren't homophibic in the sence that they are 'afraid' of homos... They just oppose it.
 
I believe that most people have the capacity to be attracted to the same sex at some point in their lives. I don't think this makes them homophobes in and of itself.
I think is comes from upbringing, peerpressure and fundamentalist christianity. oh and they are assholes.
 
Brinnie said:



But the relegious aren't homophibic in the sence that they are 'afraid' of homos... They just oppose it.

For many religious groups, their opposition is rooted in a belief that homosexuality is evil. It's not of God, in their opinion. As queers have pushed for equal rights, they began to fear that homosexuality will become an equal and acceptable part of society. People don't tend to fear things they oppose until it's a perceived threat.
 
Ricwilly said:
I believe that most people have the capacity to be attracted to the same sex at some point in their lives. I don't think this makes them homophobes in and of itself.
I think is comes from upbringing, peerpressure and fundamentalist christianity. oh and they are assholes.

Christianity, indeed. :nana:
 
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