Is Government Education Healthy for our Children?

[fuckwaffle]

Government Schools are owned by the Government, staffed by the government, run by government education bureaucrats and forced on us by the government.

The National average spent on a child K-12 is $11,400 a year and there are children coming out of our high schools who can't fill out a job application, who can't read an apartment lease, hell many of them can't even make change.

The government education bureaucrats and the teaches unions are fighting to keep you kids in schools that don't perform, to keep you from making a choice as to which school you child will attend.

Is it time for parents to take back our schools? It's time to get the government out of the class room, replaced by teachers who care.

 

[Sean Renaud]

::Gets a chair:: This should get mind bogglingly stupid soon. Stupider I mean.

 

[fuckwaffle]

::Gets a chair:: This should get mind bogglingly stupid soon. Stupider I mean.

The product of a government school system at work.

 

[unregistered]

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

A large part of the problem are the feral Democrat parents who want the baby-sitting without the hassles.

 

[Sean Renaud]

National control of schools is a failure. The U.S. Department of Education needs to be closed down and control of schools, school curriculum, policy, etc., returned to the states and the communities in which they operate. Shit can the liberal and political correct indoctrinations that are turning out the most ill prepared American kids in history.

Do you have any clue how damaging that would be to military families? Even as it stands moving around within a state can cause all sorts of headaches but crossing state lines and not being eligible to graduate because Texas thinks you should know how to shoe a horse, Alaska how to field dress a moose and California how to cater a faggot wedding? Brilliant plan there.

 

[Liar]

Government Schools are owned by the Government, staffed by the government, run by government education bureaucrats and forced on us by the government.

The National average spent on a child K-12 is $11,400 a year and there are children coming out of our high schools who can't fill out a job application, who can't read an apartment lease, hell many of them can't even make change.

The government education bureaucrats and the teaches unions are fighting to keep you kids in schools that don't perform, to keep you from making a choice as to which school you child will attend.

Is it time for parents to take back our schools? It's time to get the government out of the class room, replaced by teachers who care.

Considering my own Lit handle, it's hard to tell you to quit being a fuckwaffle, but quit being a fuckwaffle and spell out exactly what you're proposing.

 

[Recidiva]

I think you're confusing providing an opportunity for someone to learn with guaranteeing success that all will learn.

As children cannot thankfully be compelled to have a job, this is their job. Some of them fail and some of them succeed. Those that succeed did well with the opportunity and often go on to make the rest of the social construct work for them after figuring out some social, intellectual and political basics in the trenches of public school.

The miracle is that it does work some of the time. For some it's a huge benefit. For some it at least doesn't do that much harm and provides an opportunity to learn.

The reality is that children are not tabula rasa, cannot have knowledge written directly into a pliable mind. A child is a human being that either takes the opportunity to learn or rejects it.

 

[mercury14]

National control of schools is a failure. The U.S. Department of Education needs to be closed down and control of schools, school curriculum, policy, etc., returned to the states and the communities in which they operate. Shit can the liberal and political correct indoctrinations that are turning out the most ill prepared American kids in history.

No, we need minimum standards or we end up with school districts that don't think there should be standards. Or even schools.

 

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[Recidiva]

You have minimum standards now, that's the problem. Our kids can't compete in industry with their heads full of veggie diets, gay rights, racial politics, and enviro-wackoism.

If they can't handle diversity in America, they're certainly not going to be able to handle global diversity.

 

[kopela]

I think you're confusing providing an opportunity for someone to learn with guaranteeing success that all will learn.

As children cannot thankfully be compelled to have a job, this is their job. Some of them fail and some of them succeed. Those that succeed did well with the opportunity and often go on to make the rest of the social construct work for them after figuring out some social, intellectual and political basics in the trenches of public school.

The miracle is that it does work some of the time. For some it's a huge benefit. For some it at least doesn't do that much harm and provides an opportunity to learn.

The reality is that children are not tabula rasa, cannot have knowledge written directly into a pliable mind. A child is a human being that either takes the opportunity to learn or rejects it.

Thanks Deepok Chopra! You should have taken the pill; rather than semen up your VAG! People like you should nOT reproduce 3 kids...

 

[mercury14]

You have minimum standards now, that's the problem. Our kids can't compete in industry with their heads full of veggie diets, gay rights, racial politics, and enviro-wackoism.

So when kids learn not to discriminate against gays they start doing math worse than Canadians?

 

[fuckwaffle]

Considering my own Lit handle, it's hard to tell you to quit being a fuckwaffle, but quit being a fuckwaffle and spell out exactly what you're proposing.

That's not my job. The parents and teachers should decide that, although I do believe that there should be national standards, anything over and above that should be determined by the local school board and parents. After all it's your child who will be going to these schools.

One other thing...get rid of the 'No child left behind' bullshit. If Johnny knows he doesn't have to perform to move on, then what incentive does he or his parents have. If Johnny is the only 16 year old sitting in third grade, maybe he might be motivated to learn.

And get rid of the PC crap and "Everyone's a Winner", that shit just produces whinny little babies. School should be a competition, life is, don't you want your little snowflake prepared for life?

The same goes for teachers, make them compete for their jobs, like everyone in the private sector does. Government employees are impossible to get rid of no matter how incompetent they are. It should be easy to fire an incompetent teacher or administrator. But as the teachers and the administrators are a product of the government school system, you have nothing but a bunch of whinny babies who feel they are owed the job.

Parents need to be more involved. You don't send your kids to school so you can sit on the couch and watch Oprah, you send them there to learn. If they aren't learning, it's just as much your(parents) fault as the schools(teachers).

 

[Recidiva]

That's not my job. The parents and teachers should decide that, although I do believe that there should be national standards, anything over and above that should be determined by the local school board and parents. After all it's your child who will be going to these schools.

One other thing...get rid of the 'No child left behind' bullshit. If Johnny knows he doesn't have to perform to move on, then what incentive does he or his parents have. If Johnny is the only 16 year old sitting in third grade, maybe he might be motivated to learn.

And get rid of the PC crap and "Everyone's a Winner", that shit just produces whinny little babies. School should be a competition, life is, don't you want your little snowflake prepared for life?

The same goes for teachers, make them compete for their jobs, like everyone in the private sector does. Government employees are impossible to get rid of no matter how incompetent they are. It should be easy to fire an incompetent teacher or administrator. But as the teachers and the administrators are a product of the government school system, you have nothing but a bunch of whinny babies who feel they are owed the job.

Parents need to be more involved. You don't send your kids to school so you can sit on the couch and watch Oprah, you send them there to learn. If they aren't learning, it's just as much your(parents) fault as the schools(teachers).

There's no need to choose anyway. Kids go to school maximum of about 7-8 hours on weekdays with weekends, summer vacations and holidays free. Plenty of time to educate at home. I do.

There's a place for valuing contribution and minimizing the competitive.

Teachers will become more competitive if they are paid more, not if they're devalued further and paid less.

 

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[fuckwaffle]

There's no need to choose anyway. Kids go to school maximum of about 7-8 hours on weekdays with weekends, summer vacations and holidays free. Plenty of time to educate at home. I do.

There's a place for valuing contribution and minimizing the competitive.

Teachers will become more competitive if they are paid more, not if they're devalued further and paid less.

 

[Recidiva]

Well, if that's all you have to work with.

*pins a participating medal on the picture*

Good job.

 

[fuckwaffle]

Well, if that's all you have to work with.

*pins a participating medal on the picture*

Good job.

*throws it on the ground* I want to be prepared for life, not coddled...teach me.

 

[Sean]

National control of schools is a failure. The U.S. Department of Education needs to be closed down and control of schools, school curriculum, policy, etc., returned to the states and the communities in which they operate. Shit can the liberal and political correct indoctrinations that are turning out the most ill prepared American kids in history.

So you think that states controlled by morons should be allowed to teach creationism in place of evolution?

 

[mercury14]

... I do believe that there should be national standards, anything over and above that should be determined by the local school board and parents.

That's how it is right now.

One other thing...get rid of the 'No child left behind' bullshit.

And it's like that largely because of No Child Left Behind that you want to get rid of.

 

[mercury14]

They learn more bullshit than anything else. That's why they can't compete.

You realize that kids in Germany learn about homosexuals and global warming too, right? How come it doesn't kill their kids' brain cells like it clearly does with American kids?

 

[Recidiva]

*throws it on the ground* I want to be prepared for life, not coddled...teach me.

*speaks as if to a small boy*

How about you find something constructive to do? Why don't you create something, be inspired by something, get something done to call your own?

That way, you would know what real work is and you wouldn't waste time on wishing the world were perfect and bitching to the people who will completely validate your bullshit or bothering the folks who are busy just trying to make it livable?

Would you like a snack? I have PB&J.

 

[koalabear]

So you think that states controlled by morons should be allowed to teach creationism in place of evolution?

We don't need another England.

 

[mercury14]

So you think that states controlled by morons should be allowed to teach creationism in place of evolution?

Yes he does.