Internet Privacy Issue

[yukonnights]

On a party line vote, the Senate Thursday 3/23/17 overturned privacy rules that barred companies that provide internet service from gathering and profiting from consumers’ personal information without their consent.

If the measure passes another vote in the House, internet providers such as AT&T, Verizon and Comcast, will be empowered to monitor where consumers browse online, what they buy, what they watch on television, as well as any health and financial information that you divulge through internet use.

Read more here:http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article140415023.html#storylink=cpy
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I don't like the sound of this

 

[LatinSweetie]

Big brother and profiting!!

Yikes that is scary indeed!

 

[Conager]

Not that surprised. Republicans gave us the ironically named Patriot Act.

 

[yukonnights]

As I understand it, the House still has to vote on the measure. Maybe time for some more phone calls and letters? But this really smells fishy...this shit always happens when the GOP gets into power!

Another quote from the news article;
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“This was engineered by lobbyists for the phone and cable companies,” said Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, a Washington advocacy group for an open internet.

“It is extremely disappointing that the Senate voted today to sacrifice the privacy rights of Americans in the interest of protecting the profits of major internet companies, including Comcast, AT&T, and Verizon,” said Neema Singh Guliani, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union.

If the FCC regulation passes the House, which observers said is likely, internet giants would be able to gather customers’ location, financial and health information, and web browsing history to sell to advertisers. Consumers would not be able to opt out.

“There is no excuse for robbing Americans of these rights,” the nonprofit Consumer Federation of America said in a statement.

 

[EternalFantasies]

No good.

Any Right Wingers wanna defend or do you condemn?

 

[OldJourno]

Not defending this, but I wonder how different it is from what goes on now with retailers.

I've purchased items with a debit card at Walmart and received emails from them about the same item or similar items being on sale.
There are plenty of other examples but I'm watching basketball.

 

[EternalFantasies]

That's because you're the genius that gave them your email.

 

[adrina]

Yet according to several here it is the democrats that are the corporate stooges.

Interesting.

There is no defense of this. Just how like how they want to be able to allow companies to charge for premium access while shunting the regular folks onto a crowded "highway" with slower service.

 

[Saint Peter]

How about we treat the providers and "giants" alike and make the laws and regs protect the individual. Make personal data personal.

Republican proponents of the repeal of the Federal Communications Commission rule imposed last October said it would level the playing field between internet service providers and internet giants like Facebook, Google and Twitter that already harvest some personal data and use it for targeted advertising.

 

[kbate]

How about we treat the providers and "giants" alike and make the laws and regs protect the individual. Make personal data personal.

because look at the advertising revenues and look at the money being shoveled to politicians from google, facebook, twitter, and those who are permitted by current law to mine your data, and really cannot be stopped regardless of laws, because you voluntarily give them everything every time you use their site, or your credit card or shop in their store with a credit card tied to your name, or walk into their store with a face known by their facial recognition software, or drive a car with a plate registered with the DMV, or any of a thousand other things that can identify you and your habits for Big Data.

Your ISP is already collecting the data and storing it and probably is already passing it on to other parties. Your cell phone provider is collecting your data and using it to provide targeted ads.

You cannot stop the future by wishing it would not happen.

You cannot stop the advent of Big Data and it does not matter which political party you pretend wants to preserve your rights, when both have fought hard in courts to get access to your personal data.

Yet according to several here it is the democrats that are the corporate stooges.

Google and Facebook support democrats. big surprise that democrats are against a bill that allows someone to nibble into google and facebooks near monopoly on internet advertisements.

 

[adrina]

Google and Facebook support democrats. big surprise that democrats are against a bill that allows someone to nibble into google and facebooks near monopoly on internet advertisements.

And yet the democrats have put up and supported more regulations and controls than the republicans who go on anti-regulatory sprees regardless of need, logic or the American will.

The democrats aren't perfect - nothing is - but they are actually interested in performing the tasks of governance.

 

[Bray123]

This change is not pushed by the IT industry. They can already make sufficient money by personalised advertising relevant to your browsing. Your ISP does not care whether you look at Lit, Ebay or Amazon.

This is pushed by the security services who want to identify who is looking at certain web sites that Google don't even list.

 

[Sean]

FFS, people, get yourself a vpn.

 

[yukonnights]

FFS, people, get yourself a vpn.

THIS ^^^^

Here's some info; The Motherboard Guide to VPNs https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-best-vpns-ranked

Another news article today, this one from MarketWatch.com

...The repeal passed by a Senate vote of 50 to 48 and will go into action unless overturned by the House of Representatives or vetoed by Donald Trump. Ernesto Falcon, legislative counsel at the digital privacy advocacy organization the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told MarketWatch that politicians are experiencing a wave of backlash from voters, who are calling Congress and pressuring it to act...


Full article here; http://www.marketwatch.com/story/yo...o-advertisers-without-your-consent-2017-03-28

 

[Hard_Rom]

I spent a day looking for one piece bathroom inserts. And another day looking at bandsaws. Now almost all the web pages I visit have Bathfitter or Busy Bee Tool ads.

Wonder what would happen if I spent the day visiting radical Jihadist sites?

 

[rocket_surgery]

The only way to be truly private is to be offline. The days of total privacy are gone and aren't coming back. A VPN will help but like bitcoin and TOR and all that, you're not really anonymous. Mostly but not totally.
I don't worry about this stuff but I get why others do. I just don't see a need to do a bunch of stuff to stay mostly anonymous when I don't really care if people know what sites I visit or what I buy. What's the worst that will happen? I'll get a bunch of ad banners for things I look at, maybe a cease and desist over some torrents if I get sloppy about it. I can live with that.

 

[KingOrfeo]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/privacy_opinions.png

 

[Hard_Rom]

I don't worry about internet privacy. So they track my searches in an attempt to sell me more shit, no big deal. I don't conduct illegal activities over the net or phone. Don't online bank. All they can do is increase my spam a bit and place ads I might actually have an interest in on my web pages.

99% of spam I get is from sex related sites and goes straight to spam folder.

 

[thør]

How about we treat the providers and "giants" alike and make the laws and regs protect the individual. Make personal data personal.

I say that every member of Congress should be "chipped" and their whereabouts tracked and published on the internet.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I say that every member of Congress should be "chipped" and their whereabouts tracked and published on the internet.

Most don't even have passports do they? Be sort of boring watching them go back and forth between some Swamp drinking hole and their luxury homes.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Activist finds the perfect way to turn tables on lawmakers who voted to repeal internet privacy rule.

Republicans in Congress voted this week to gut a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) privacy rule that would sell everyone out to Internet Service Providers (ISP). The push will give ISPs the right to sell customer data to marketers, insert ads in your traffic, and insert tracking cookies in HTTP traffic that can’t be deleted or traced.

Repealing the FCC guidelines is a huge blow to online privacy. So Adam McElhaney, an activist based in Chattanooga, Tennessee who cares about privacy and net neutrality set up a GoFundMe page to collect donations to buy the internet histories of everyone who voted to repeal the FCC’s privacy protections.

The page is called “Purchase Private Internet Histories.”

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

On a party line vote, the Senate Thursday 3/23/17 overturned privacy rules that barred companies that provide internet service from gathering and profiting from consumers’ personal information without their consent.

If the measure passes another vote in the House, internet providers such as AT&T, Verizon and Comcast, will be empowered to monitor where consumers browse online, what they buy, what they watch on television, as well as any health and financial information that you divulge through internet use.

Read more here:http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article140415023.html#storylink=cpy
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I don't like the sound of this

They already do...

Fresh from the cabbage patch?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No good.

Any Right Wingers wanna defend or do you condemn?

Not defending this, but I wonder how different it is from what goes on now with retailers.

I've purchased items with a debit card at Walmart and received emails from them about the same item or similar items being on sale.
There are plenty of other examples but I'm watching basketball.

*Bingo*


~~spit~~

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And yet the democrats have put up and supported more regulations and controls than the republicans who go on anti-regulatory sprees regardless of need, logic or the American will.

The democrats aren't perfect - nothing is - but they are actually interested in performing the tasks of governance.

And who are the experts that guide them in the writings of these regulations?

It's not the little guys trying to earn larger market share, but the big guys protecting market share.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I say that every member of Congress should be "chipped" and their whereabouts tracked and published on the internet.

Republicans already are...



Figuratively.