Internal Enslavement

[esclave_PP]

http://www.enslavement.org.uk/ -- I came across this site not too long ago and there are some fascinating articles. I was curious what you all thought of this concept, if you think it is realistic or viable and if you have experienced this in your journey through BDSM. I look forward to reading your responses:

http://www.enslavement.org.uk/testyourself/ This is a quiz, to test yourself on your understanding of Internal Enslavement

http://www.enslavement.org.uk/essays.html This is a link to the essays on the site

http://www.enslavement.org.uk/links.html Link to other sites with similar content.

Enjoy!

 

[Ms_Kat]

Interesting

I scanned the material. Basically, it sounds like an attempt to explain the bonding in deep dominance relationships from a psychological perspective.

I find their theory flawed at the foundation, though. A slave, in their view, cannot change their mind about what they have gotten themselves in to. Exactly how this would be prevented is not clear. What it sounds like they are really talking about is building a level of communication where Master and slave find the level of service that works best for both of them.

For instance, they say that the Master/slave relationship is sometimes that of Counselor/client. This is part of the development of a true "slave" relationship. The Master gets to understand the slave and the slave learns to trust the Master.

In a real slave relationship, as has been seen around the world in places where slavery is a real possibility, communication goes only one way. The Master orders the slave, the slave complies or is punished in any way they desire. There is no build up of trust or Counselor/client relationship here. Think of "Roots". That is real slavery. In the absence of any method to legally enforce a slavery contract, everything else is role playing - even if carried to the extremes and done 24/7.

What they are describing, though, closely resembles the manner in which my husband and I came to our present arrangement. I wouldn't say that it is 24/7, but it is close. Could I force him to do anything I want? Well, I am 5'8" and 130 lbs while he is 6'6" and 255 lbs of muscle. I "force" him to be my "slave" because he consents to it and desires it as much as I do. Any other interpretation seems a bit silly to me.


Hugs,


Kat

 

[esclave_PP]

Thank you Ms_Kat! Very thoughtful response. I've found that what you said, the "What it sounds like they are really talking about is building a level of communication where Master and slave find the level of service that works best for both of them..." makes perfect sense. I would think that most Master/slave relationships, really most D/s ones too, would be based on that level of communication and trust. I was curious what others thought because like you, I had similar reactions.

I agree with your interpretation very much.

Anyone else get a chance to scan through? Would love to discuss this more!

 

[Pure]

I rather like their stuff. They are quite sophisticated, and knowledgeable about psychology, including what 'erotic slavery' would amount to: the slave has lost the capacity to rebel against the master's wishes.

Plus: In a way they are 'old school', in that they don't claim equality is being aimed at or that the dom/me is a kind of therapist.

Minus:They're not keen of women dominating men, I gather. I , on the other hand, think things should go all ways.

Threads have dealt with the IE folks before, but I'm happy to see another.

J.

 

[esclave_PP]

Thank you Pure! The essays are very interesting to read, indeed. Master enjoyed most of the site but thought the quiz was a bit, lacking. Although he felt that overall the IE folks were old school too, which he didn't mind at all actually as he's more comfy with that anyhow.

One of the things I found so fascinating was how IE fits in so well with today's societal quirks. While on the one hand they arne't keen on women being dominant, it is interesting reading their reasons why.

 

[Pure]

Here are a couple links to 'old threads' that deal with IE

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174794

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126450

 

[esclave_PP]

Great thank you!

 

[spankableBelle]

woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!

i got all of the answers to the quiz correct...<giggling>

Master would be proud...

 

[esclave_PP]

congrats belle!