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twelveoone

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My guess is that anonymouswon't show.
The real purpose of this thread, has to do with looking at criticism. What do you look for before you leave a comment, what do you see when you receive a comment that is less then a stellar review?
How much are you locked into what you perceive poetry should be, do you look outside your favourites?
What are the comments that prompt you to make improvements.
Who impresses you with their comments? Why?

and if....

Open Invitation

Yo! 1201, what the fuck happened to #7?
I’ll get to that , Sunday, when I have time for a real person with something to say.
This one is for you, anonymous zero bomber, a chance for the spotlight. Anyone who has did a low ball bombing and did not leave their name can now share their wisdom and tell us why. Anyone who left a nasty wisecrack as anonymous can now step up and we can applaud their wit.
Is 1201 pissed, not really some of the stuff I write, I’m a little surprised at the good reception. I did receive a PM from somebody, in effect, telling me two of mine sucked. He signed his name, he told me that if he couldn’t leave a four of a five he doesn’t vote on them. I have two things to say, er, I didn’t write it for you and I have nothing but respect, because you were honest and you left your name.
Something the zero bomber couldn’t do, 1201 wonders why.
Was it something I said? Maybe, others have been zero bombed too, 1201 wonders what they said, and why he didn’t think of first - no can’t be that.
“Real” poets at work? No they love to tell you that you tripped over you spondic feet, and yes, DUMB FUCK does rhyme with dump truck, but DUMB FUCK is a bit of a cliché, come up with something better.
Can’t be that.
The mystery of this psyche eludes him.
Then it dawns on him, maybe they are illiterate, since he never sees anonymous over here, only over there.
Either they are reacting to the pop up adds, or the blue letters on the other side.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
If you can get somebody to read this for you.
 
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I've been here over 3 years and the one person will always be here, too. Don't fret over it. Though, fretful men do hold a certain attraction for me. I want to cuddle them and do anything to make them feel better. Do you feel better, yet?
 
twelveoone said:

Something the zero bomber couldn’t do, 1201 wonders why.
Was it something I said?
It's most probably not. Why does everyone take 1-bombings so personal? 99 times out of 100, they are like the Tourette's Syndrome of voting. A random spree of the wrong thing, directed at whoever is within arm's reach.

Edt: I just read Eve's post. Aww shiyat, does that mean I'm not getting cuddled? :(

#L
 
twelveoone said:
Open Invitation

Yo! 1201, what the fuck happened to #7?


1201

why don't you pick a poem of your own and do an 'interact' thread yourself here?

and stop worrying about him/her. anyone who will not attach their name to their actions is not worth talking to OR about.

:rose: stick a flower in his gun barrel.
 
nah, I'm having a great day, just givin' em a chance

but in the meantime, lets discuss something usefull.

Most Useful Criitical Comment

the real unsung heros, anything ever said to make you change something
 
WickedEve said:
I've been here over 3 years and the one person will always be here, too. Don't fret over it. Though, fretful men do hold a certain attraction for me. I want to cuddle them and do anything to make them feel better. Do you feel better, yet?

not yet, i'm a still frettin
real, real bad
 
twelveoone said:
nah, I'm having a great day, just givin' em a chance

but in the meantime, lets discuss something usefull.

Most Useful Criitical Comment

the real unsung heros, anything ever said to make you change something
senna jawa left a comment that has impacted my poetry. He said that words like "it's" were not necessary the way I was using them. That's not exactly how he put it, but close and the comment was actually made to alana edgar, I think--one of my other user names. So, now I drop little words that serve no purpose. Boring example: "It's a dark and stormy night and I hear something weird on my front porch." I could write: "Dark and stormy night, weird front porch noises." I'm guessing the possum is back.
 
twelveoone said:
not yet, i'm a still frettin
real, real bad
Come sit on my lap and let me tickle your tummy and feed you corn fritters. Fritters for the fretter.
 
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Liar said:
Edt: I just read Eve's post. Aww shiyat, does that mean I'm not getting cuddled? :(

#L
No cuddling for you. You're on my spanking list.
 
WickedEve said:
senna jawa left a comment that has impacted my poetry. He said that words like "it's" were not necessary the way I was using them. That's not exactly how he put it, but close and the comment was actually made to alana edgar, I think--one of my other user names. So, now I drop little words that serve no purpose. Boring example: "It's a dark and stormy night and I hear something weird on my front porch." I could write: "Dark and stormy night, weird front porch noises." I'm guessing the possum is back.
that wernt the possum that was me I'm a still frettin'

Eve, lostandfounder is the guy I pay alot of attention too, (well not really 100, but...) he lets me know something is off.
 
twelveoone said:
that wernt the possum that was me I'm a still frettin'

Eve, lostandfounder is the guy I pay alot of attention too, (well not really 100, but...) he lets me know something is off.
I'm sure a lot of poets (new ones, mostly) think that I'm just awful and that I'm trying to rewrite their poems. But when I make a suggestion, I feel that it's easier to show them what I mean, even if means fooling around with their words. I don't think I've fooled around with you, yet. Would you like me to?
 
WickedEve said:
I'm sure a lot of poets (new ones, mostly) think that I'm just awful and that I'm trying to rewrite their poems. But when I make a suggestion, I feel that it's easier to show them what I mean, even if means fooling around with their words. I don't think I've fooled around with you, yet. Would you like me to?
How about me, I'm a frettin too
 
twelveoone said:
Open Invitation

Yo! 1201, what the fuck happened to #7?
I’ll get to that , Sunday, when I have time for a real person with something to say.
This one is for you, anonymous zero bomber, a chance for the spotlight. Anyone who has did a low ball bombing and did not leave their name can now share their wisdom and tell us why. Anyone who left a nasty wisecrack as anonymous can now step up and we can applaud their wit.
Is 1201 pissed, not really some of the stuff I write, I’m a little surprised at the good reception. I did receive a PM from somebody, in effect, telling me two of mine sucked. He signed his name, he told me that if he couldn’t leave a four of a five he doesn’t vote on them. I have two things to say, er, I didn’t write it for you and I have nothing but respect, because you were honest and you left your name.
Something the zero bomber couldn’t do, 1201 wonders why.
Was it something I said? Maybe, others have been zero bombed too, 1201 wonders what they said, and why he didn’t think of first - no can’t be that.
“Real” poets at work? No they love to tell you that you tripped over you spondic feet, and yes, DUMB FUCK does rhyme with dump truck, but DUMB FUCK is a bit of a cliché, come up with something better.
Can’t be that.
The mystery of this psyche eludes him.
Then it dawns on him, maybe they are illiterate, since he never sees anonymous over here, only over there.
Either they are reacting to the pop up adds, or the blue letters on the other side.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
If you can get somebody to read this for you.
somebody read this to me, the reason you got zero bombed, is you shot those two horses, shouldn't have got that E for shootin two horses
 
yeh. it's me BTW

twelveoone, alt ego, for this thread
for you anon zero
"Shit,
I’ll see his greasy ass
curled up in the gutter someday
the rain won’t wash him away"

Eve, so how come you didn't fool around with my words?
 
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anonamouse said:
somebody read this to me, the reason you got zero bombed, is you shot those two horses, shouldn't have got that E for shootin two horses
I think he shot those horses for Elmer.
 
since the real anonymous zero won't show, I figured anonmouse would fill in
Have you ever been zero bombed? I'll give you an answer, even if I got to make one up.
 
Re: yeh. it's me BTW

anonamouse said:
twelveoone, alt ego, for this thread
for you anon zero
"Shit,
I’ll see his greasy ass
curled up in the gutter someday
the rain won’t wash him away"

Eve, so how come you didn't fool around with my words?
I looked your name up and found one poem. I remember that you posted it on the board and I'm pretty sure that I said something kind about it, but I don't think it wanted me to fool around with it.
 
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WickedEve said:
I looked your name up and found one poem. I remember that you posted it on the board and I'm pretty sure that I said something kind about it, but I don't think it wanted me to fool around with it.
is there a smilie for fool around with me
 
twelveoone said:
nah, I'm having a great day, just givin' em a chance

but in the meantime, lets discuss something usefull.

Most Useful Criitical Comment

the real unsung heros, anything ever said to make you change something

be back either/ or
 
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anonamouse said:
you got your cattle mixed up, he shot them for Mr.Ed
No, I think it was for Elmer's factory.

What's all this talk about zeroes? Do you waste time giving zeroes to poems? :confused:
 
twelveoone said:
nah, I'm having a great day, just givin' em a chance

but in the meantime, lets discuss something usefull.

Most Useful Criitical Comment

the real unsung heros, anything ever said to make you change something

ohh, thats a good idea. I want to thank Senna Jawa for hurting me with wonderful advice ;).
He wrote in in a PC, that I should not use personal opinion type words, they assign too much to the writer and leave nothing for the reader to give the poem to make it their own, they are too subjective, yet confining ( well, thats paraphrased, but thats what I got from it. :)


He doesnt leave PC's very often, and that was very good advice for me, I still think of it when I write, but that it was pointed out so bluntly, kind of embarrassed me I think and it stung, it felt like well, criticism!!

anyway, Senna Jawa, thanks for the constructive crit :rose:




I
 
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WickedEve said:
No, I think it was for Elmer's factory.

What's all this talk about zeroes? Do you waste time giving zeroes to poems? :confused:
nah, just havin' a little fun, useless though,don't think the moron makes it over here.

There are two good threads here, Art's Poem Academy, this because of the authors, and from time to time others show up.
Art thank you for what you are trying to do.

Later I'll go edit the intro post, leave this for examples of useful critical comments.
I puttin' the mouse away -1201
 
OK, this has got to be the weirdest thread ever.

A couple of considerations:

There isn't one single one-bomber; there are many, there will always be many, and with just as many different motivations. They aren't, unlike you might think, out to get you; when they drop the bombs, they do it indiscriminately, hitting whoever happens to be in the wrong place of the top list, for example.

Finally, how do you tell one-bombers from the legitimate voters? There are five possible votes, and each person has its own set of rules. Senna Jawa, that some have mentioned here before, for example, voted 1 or 2 on several of my poems, with or without explanation, but always believing that was what the poem deserved.

Voters don't have to explain themselves; it would be nice, but they don't have to do it - I for one wouldn't want them to have to do it - and if explanation is so important to you, you can simply disregard all votes and dumb-fuck comments and simply look at the constructive feedback you received. It's as simple as that.

So, Twelv'O, if you're after The Most Useful Criitical Comment, here it is:

Get over it and write, instead of wasting your energy and everyone else's patience hunting ghosts.
 
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