Innovative Poetry

[vampiredust]

Is it possible to innovate any more in poetry? I know poets play around with form, imagery and language etc but is it really possible to do something that hasn't been done for?

I know there are poets who create interactive poems and things like hypertext, linking different mediums today but is that really different?

 

[wildsweetone]

uh oh, i'm being opinionated again...

Is it possible to innovate any more in poetry?
Yes, of course.

I know poets play around with form, imagery and language etc but is it really possible to do something that hasn't been done for?
Again, of course.

I know there are poets who create interactive poems and things like hypertext, linking different mediums today but is that really different?
It can be if done effectively.

I think the boundaries in poetry are the limits of our imagination. All I need to do is watch a child who has yet to learn the 'rules' of writing to see exactly how innovative they are. Dogma and expectations hold a lot of us adults back from being free with our creativity.

Nurture and respect our differences and who knows what we'll all come up with in the future.

 

[My Erotic Trail]

It may have all been done before <grin but it hasn't been done my way yet <grinin, I think that there is always a new way of looking at or writing about different things. Form and styles change over periods of time, glance at the history of poetry and see the various differences each decade brings. Good question V~

 

[Liar]

"We're done. there is nothing more to discover."

The general consensus of the scientific community at numerous times through history. And then some bugger went ahead and dicovered something new anyway. Just because we can't imagibne what the next thing is, it doesn't matter it won't happen.

I can however imagine quite a lot.

* Doxa sensetive poetry - poems designed to mean specific things (same or different) depending on the cultural context in which it's read.

* Absurdist one letter poems. (dibs on Q)

* Neuro-linguistic poetry - poems that adapt to the reaction of the reader. (don't ask me how)

* Mathematic poems. (Might have been done.)

* Intonation sensitive poems, written in phonetics.


So get crackin'.

 

[vampiredust]

* Intonation sensitive poems, written in phonetics.

That's not new though, I've read an ee cummings poem written like that

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Is it possible to innovate any more in poetry? I know poets play around with form, imagery and language etc but is it really possible to do something that hasn't been done for?

I know there are poets who create interactive poems and things like hypertext, linking different mediums today but is that really different?

This question or variations of it appear quite frequently not only here, but over at the Author's Hangout as well: are there any original ideas left, how many truly different narrative plots exist, etc. I don't think I ever responded to any of them for fear of shocking the delicate sensitivities of some aspiring writers, but I'm done with that. lol

We live in what is probably the most narcissistic, self-centred society of all times. Our egos are huge and fed daily with more and more information, and we see in ourselves the pinnacle of thousands of years of accumulated cultural knowledge. Each individual believes completely in his or her own potential to be the best in whatever area he or she is involved. In many aspects, this is a great thing, one of the major advantages of our time. This belief drives us, forces us to fulfil this potential.

But the cruel truth is that the great majority of us aren't ever going to be best in anything. The majority of us are simply wankers (hard-working or not, aware of limitations or not, but still wankers in the overall scale of human genius) with overinflated egos. And in this context, you're going to find A LOT of people who will say there is nothing new under the sun (using a cliché to say it), that there are only so many truly original ideas, that "we're done". They will say it because they can't think of anything new, whenever they try to conceive of something new and unseen, they can never quite reach it. Their egos' natural defence will, of course, saying, and completely believing, that this is it. There is nothing else out there.

Well, just wait and see.

 

[Maria2394]

Lauren said "wanker". So did I, on the passion thread. Great minds think alike? or did I read the mind of a genius...

I just like that word...sometimes

hey Lauren!! hope youre feeling better!!



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[Lauren Hynde]

Lauren said "wanker". So did I, on the passion thread. Great minds think alike? or did I read the mind of a genius...

I just like that word...sometimes

hey Lauren!! hope youre feeling better!!



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I like it too!

Thanks, Maria. Some days are better than others. I'm feeling well today.

 

[annaswirls]

wanker makes me feel like I have taken a European vacation without a passport

 

[Liar]

That's not new though, I've read an ee cummings poem written like that

Ah, but I've neither seen it or heard about it, so the level of innovation on my behalf was as if it didn't exist. If a bear shits in the woods and nobody smells it, did it really happen?

Ok then, a poem that is only intonation and no words.

 

[ishtat]

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I think that innovation does occur in many art forms including poetry but am almost equally certain that one cannot plan (successfully) to innovate in art - it is only recognised in hindsight.

In recent history it is easy for example to recognise innovation in the creation of forms whether the innovator is an architect an engineer or perhaps a maker of machines. Most of these innovations are possible because of the understanding we have of materials for example, concrete or metals or chemicals.

I also think that there is innovation in mathematics but it is not poetic to my mind because everyones perception of mathematics(understood or not) must be identical wheras the experience of poetry can be as varied as the number of people reading it.

 

[Angeline]

Is it possible to innovate any more in poetry? I know poets play around with form, imagery and language etc but is it really possible to do something that hasn't been done for?

I know there are poets who create interactive poems and things like hypertext, linking different mediums today but is that really different?

Go here and see what you think.

 

[HotKittySpank]

oh Angline! thank you for sharing this site with us.

 

[Angeline]

oh Angline! thank you for sharing this site with us.

My pleasure

I'm not sure if the site is still considered cutting edge--they've been around for a few years, but I love the way they bring together artists from different media to create what I think of as digital performance art.

I don't care for everything I see there, but some of it really works beautifully imo. I wish I had the talent (or network) to submit some multimedia piece to them.

And the time. Yeah, wish I had that, too.

 

[HotKittySpank]

My pleasure

I'm not sure if the site is still considered cutting edge--they've been around for a few years, but I love the way they bring together artists from different media to create what I think of as digital performance art.

I don't care for everything I see there, but some of it really works beautifully imo. I wish I had the talent (or network) to submit some multimedia piece to them.

And the time. Yeah, wish I had that, too.

when i was reading the site info, they will hook writers up with artists who are interested if you don't already have an artist to work with. it seems that they have too many writers and not enough artists though - perhaps i read that wrong. ? shit, i wish i knew how to do that stuff. it would be too much fun to play that way.

as for cutting-edge, i did not feel that it wasn't. just a tad too passive in approach on some pieces. i felt more could have been done with several of the ones posted there. i really enjoyed the few with sound - some of the recordings could have been better. but, the shifting movement and color that coincided with the words - yea!

please pass on anything else like this that you know about. k? i liked it very much. --hks