Information on Fred Phelps

[DVS]

Fred Phelps is near death. It looks like it's only a matter of time, now. But, I'm sure his kids will continue the tradition of hate that he started.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/03/report-fred-phelps-founder-of-westboro-baptist-church-near-death/

 

[KoPilot]

My feelings on the matter are along the lines of Takei's.

I'm not happy that he'll be gone soon. I'm not going to be made happy by the death of anyone in that cult.

I'll be happy when someone leaves the WBC by any other means, and I'll be happy when it's gone altogether, and only then.

 

[Primalex]

Fred Phelps is near death.

Wrong door, the GLBT forum is the next one.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

"Hey Phelps... You and your nutjob underlings have scored major gains for gay rights! Well done, my good and faithful servant."

 

[DVS]

Wrong door, the GLBT forum is the next one.

For years, the Phelps family picketed our BDSM munch dinners to the point we were looking at each other as his mole. We couldn't figure out how they kept finding out where we were meeting. It got very difficult to even communicate. We didn't have the Internet, email or cell phones, so everything was very much person to person.

All of this was long before that family started nationally going after gays. They cut their teeth on local hatred, before they hit the big time. They don't just hate gays, they also hate anybody who likes them. Or didn't you know that. Because our local BDSM groups allowed gays and lesbians (because they like BDSM, too), restaurants stopped letting us have munches in their places. They didn't want the adverse publicity. Yes, where Phelps went, so did the media.

Restaurants didn't want to be on the local TV news as the place picketed by Phelps. This was the 70s and the 80s. Times were very different. It was bad press for them and the BDSM community suffered as well. So, yes, this is the correct place for this thread.

Dude, why you got a hard on about this, anyway? This is the cafe. There are no rules here. You got somethin' against gays?

 

[KoPilot]

You got somethin' against gays?

Probably.

 

[Primalex]

They don't just hate gays, they also hate anybody who likes them.

It would be strange otherwise. Look at the anti-abortion-fanatics, they are not just against pregnant women trying to abort, but, of course, against anyone opposing their view. So your objection is invalid.

Dude, why you got a hard on about this, anyway? This is the cafe. There are no rules here.

The Literotica rules, including rule #11, are valid for every place.

 

[Ahlam]

Fred Phelps is near death. It looks like it's only a matter of time, now. But, I'm sure his kids will continue the tradition of hate that he started.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/03/report-fred-phelps-founder-of-westboro-baptist-church-near-death/

It's surprising that he has lived for so long. I've always assumed that someone would assassinate him.

 

[DVS]

He's dead.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26669967

 

[Stella_Omega]

It's surprising that he has lived for so long. I've always assumed that someone would assassinate him.

If he had attacked White Supremacists, for instance, that might have happened. Or gone on record supporting women's reproductive rights. The right wing mindset tends to foster little killers if anything does.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Fred Phelps is near death. It looks like it's only a matter of time, now. But, I'm sure his kids will continue the tradition of hate that he started.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/03/report-fred-phelps-founder-of-westboro-baptist-church-near-death/

Some of them, no doubt. But by my understanding, one of his sons and no less than eleven of his grandkids have rejected WBC. Walking away from a cult like that has to be a hard thing, especially when you're leaving family behind, and yet so many of them did.

 

[Bramblethorn]

If he had attacked White Supremacists, for instance, that might have happened. Or gone on record supporting women's reproductive rights. The right wing mindset tends to foster little killers if anything does.

Funny thing is, Fred Phelps was a civil-rights lawyer back in the days when that was a dangerous thing to be, and apparently he was a very effective one - although it's not clear whether he did it out of principle or because he saw money in it. His son Nathan certainly thought the latter.

 

[DVS]

Some of them, no doubt. But by my understanding, one of his sons and no less than eleven of his grandkids have rejected WBC. Walking away from a cult like that has to be a hard thing, especially when you're leaving family behind, and yet so many of them did.

Actually, about 20 have left the church, but they are the younger ones...the next generation of the church. But all of the familys have a lot of kids. Shirley Phelps-Roper has 11 kids. I think 3 of them have left the church. Her brother Nathan has also left the church. At present, I think there are bout 40 to 50 members left. They are mostly siblings and in laws. Also, the majority of them are lawyers. That helps, because they get into so many legal battles.

But, with his death, there is now a board of elders, all men that are in charge. They even beat out Phelp's own daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, in a power struggle, but she's still a member. She is a real wacko, if you ask me. She wasn't helping their image any. Maybe that's how she lost her member backing.

But, they say there is no power struggle and it's business as usual for the church. I guess that means the pickets will continue. But, with a number of heads in charge now, instead of just one, who knows what can happen. It could all blow up in their faces. I'm sure there is still a power struggle going on, no matter what they want everybody to believe.

 

[graceanne]

Besides a horrible person, and all that, Fred Phelps was a glory-hound. He can say what he will about his reasons, but the truth is he liked the attention (or so I've always felt). Because of that I have always shunned, to the best of my ability, anything related to him, including news of his illness or death, as I will not feed the troll.

That said, how I feel about him and his death can be summed up by this Bible verses:

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad. ~ 2 Corinthians 5:10[

Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me. These will go away into eternal punishment.' ~ Matthew 25:45-46

 

[DVS]

There won't be a funeral. At least a part of that decision could be so nobody can picket. I really don't think there would be any picketing, though. For the most part, those who have experienced that family's hatred first hand won't stoop to their same evil.

 

[Stella_Omega]

There won't be a funeral. At least a part of that decision could be so nobody can picket. I really don't think there would be any picketing, though. For the most part, those who have experienced that family's hatred first hand won't stoop to their same evil.

cowards.

http://blog.chron.com/nickanderson/wp-content/blogs.dir/1845/files/2014/03/and032114web-600x446.jpg

 

[Primalex]

For the most part, those who have experienced that family's hatred first hand won't stoop to their same evil.

Fanatics never see their actions as evil. That's the point of being a fanatic.

 

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