Indian Drone Hacked by Chinese PLA

[Politruk]

Ohhhhh, there is Chinese bread - if you ever have the chance to go to a Chinese bakery - yum! All sorts of buns too, sweet as well as savoury. It's a bit of a differemt style to European-style bread though, and mostly it's, I think, northern Chinese stuff. Cantonese is more noodles and dumplings and that kind of thing. Personally my favorite is the deep-fried bread rolls to go with congee, but some of the buns!!! Yum yum yum now you have me thinking of dim sum. LOL

As for dairy, half-Chinese and never been to China, go figure, so I can't really talk to that one. gxnn could, I'm sure.

As for Indian vs Chinese - I love both. Grew up at home with a weird mix of Chinese, Vietnamese, Polish and "American" for want of a better description, and I travelled a lot with my parents so I got to survive on all kinds of food - love Indoneasian and Thai, I die for a good rare steak, lol - South Africa and Argentina were heaven - lots of arab stuff in Riyadh - English breakfasts and pub lunches LOL - Indian buffet restaurants are heaven - Korean - Japanese - you name it. So yeah, I know what you mean. Some of that Indian stuff is divine and I love naan and chapatti's. My theory on food is very simple, if it's there, I'll try it and I'll probably enjoy it.

I wouldn't say for myself that Indian beats Chinese or vice versa, they're just very different and I really like them both.

Here's another thing -- don't Chinese eat fish? On a Chinese restaurant menu, "seafood" always means shrimp or lobster -- no aquatic vertebrates. Japanese eat a lot of fish.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Here's another thing -- don't Chinese eat fish? On a Chinese restaurant menu, "seafood" always means shrimp or lobster -- no aquatic vertebrates. Japanese eat a lot of fish.

You get LOTS of fish but it depends on where you are and the restaurant - San Francisco has some great ones with tanks of live fish. You point out your victim, they net it and off to the kitchen it goes. I think it's more southern Chinese than northern tho. Cantonese cooking has LOTS of fish dishes. Do a quick search - but chinese restaurants always do it way better than I do

Cantonese Steamed fish with ginger, lemon grass and spring onions, with a light soy sauce - yum! And fish with Black Bean Sauce is great too....probably the one I like most

 

[gxnn]

China is only a short term threat. It doesn't have enough youth to continue as a nation. The death spiral will accelerate rapidly as it loses global trade. India could gain some Tibetan territory or guard the border more against Chinese refugees. The Uyghurs with Muslim birthrates could be a rising power in what's left of China.

That is your phantasy.
Short term? How short is it?
Threat? What kind of threat? Which war is started by China?
Check how many Indians or native Americans were killed by your grand grand fathers before criticizing China, OK?
Most of the Uyghurs have seen the worse conditions in other Muslim countries and all believe that it is safer and luckier to have stayed in China.
India is big country in terms of population, but it is still too far away from a civilized country because the people there still pee and poo wherever they desire, much worse than the pet dogs of many American families. Ask some Canadian residents, they will tell you that they often see some Indian immigrants shit in the beach in front of their houses and has become a "scene" when opening windows in the morning.

 

[gxnn]

Here's another thing -- don't Chinese eat fish? On a Chinese restaurant menu, "seafood" always means shrimp or lobster -- no aquatic vertebrates. Japanese eat a lot of fish.

I believe you must have retired with a high amount of pension that makes your life easy and happy as in paradise. So why not go to China to see everything for yourself, like the American Boston-born influencer Youtuber "ishowspeed" did a couple of days ago? Seeing is believing!

 

[Chernosoth]

That is your phantasy.
Short term? How short is it?
Threat? What kind of threat? Which war is started by China?

If your avatar indicates your age, China could have a civil war, or just quietly fall apart in your lifetime. The hyperindustrialization and urbanization created a situation of too few people parenting and complete dependence on global trade, which it is now losing as shipping costs rise and various nations restart domestic manufacturing. What China does in its desperation is the threat that will become apparent soon enough. Based on China's history in previous times of turbulence, the south could be relatively OK in new trade relations with other nations of southeast Asia, while the north has famine. Without enough supporting population of youth, people too old for manual labor may be quietly encouraged to peacefully die in large numbers.

 

[Politruk]

If your avatar indicates your age, China could have a civil war, or just quietly fall apart in your lifetime. The hyperindustrialization and urbanization created a situation of too few people parenting and complete dependence on global trade, which it is now losing as shipping costs rise and various nations restart domestic manufacturing. What China does in its desperation is the threat that will become apparent soon enough. Based on China's history in previous times of turbulence, the south could be relatively OK in new trade relations with other nations of southeast Asia, while the north has famine. Without enough supporting population of youth, people too old for manual labor may be quietly encouraged to peacefully die in large numbers.

I hope this is not yet another post based on the assumption that we're running out of petroleum.

 

[Chernosoth]

I hope this is not yet another post based on the assumption that we're running out of petroleum.

The lack of kids could end the nation before the oil crunch becomes that severe.

 

[Politruk]

The lack of kids could end the nation before the oil crunch becomes that severe.

Well, remember that the PRC instituted that "one child" policy to deal with overpopulation, which is an even worse problem.

 

[gxnn]

The lack of kids could end the nation before the oil crunch becomes that severe.

Japan and South Korea have the same problem for many years, but they are still OK, at least much better than most European countries.

Vlademir Lenin of Soviet Union, the second greatest leader of the communist world, predicted many years ago that imperialism is the highest form of capitalism and that it will perish very soon (perhaps not beyond 1970s from his point of view), now his face may have been hit swollen knowing that capitalism not only does not die, but also develops in China, the most populous communist country in the world. What an irony!

In this sense, you have made the same mistake like him, but it is nothing new. In China's history, there is an idiom 杞人忧天(sounding like "Chea-Yen-Yo-Ten"), meaning that a citizen of the old state of Qi is often worried about the sky that would fall down on his head that he cannot sleep and eat well every day.

Well, remember that the PRC instituted that "one child" policy to deal with overpopulation, which is an even worse problem.

That was the policy implemented from 1979 up to 2016. Even in that period, many rural families still managed to produce more than 2 kids at the cost of having almost of all their properties taken away, and the policy did not apply to the minority ethnic groups, the number of which is 55 in China's official record.
Since 2016, people have been allowed to have two kids for one family, though with cold reaction from the grassroots due to high cost of living. Now it is more free, you give birth and raise children as many as you wish or are able to. But the problem is that many young people who have been influenced by the Western culture choose celibacy or DINK (double income no kids).

Yet things are not always the same, when they are awaken they can still make up. A friend of mine first claimed to be DINK with her husband, but now she has two kids. A famous Hong Kong movie director Tsu Hark（徐克） in his late 60s, married a much younger girl for having his own sons to carry on his family name, after divorcing his long time wife who agreed not to have kids in their life.

 

[Politruk]

Threat? What kind of threat? Which war is started by China?

One over Taiwan.

Also, I have heard the PRC covets Siberia. Just for its mineral wealth.

 

[Politruk]

Japan and South Korea have the same problem for many years, but they are still OK, at least much better than most European countries.

Vlademir Lenin of Soviet Union, the second greatest leader of the communist world, predicted many years ago that imperialism is the highest form of capitalism and that it will perish very soon (perhaps not beyond 1970s from his point of view), now his face may have been hit swollen knowing that capitalism not only does not die, but also develops in China, the most populous communist country in the world. What an irony!

In this sense, you have made the same mistake like him, but it is nothing new. In China's history, there is an idiom 杞人忧天(sounding like "Chea-Yen-Yo-Ten"), meaning that a citizen of the old state of Qi is often worried about the sky that would fall down on his head that he cannot sleep and eat well every day.

That was the policy implemented from 1979 up to 2016. Even in that period, many rural families still managed to produce more than 2 kids at the cost of having almost of all their properties taken away, and the policy did not apply to the minority ethnic groups, the number of which is 55 in China's official record.
Since 2016, people have been allowed to have two kids for one family, though with cold reaction from the grassroots due to high cost of living. Now it is more free, you give birth and raise children as many as you wish or are able to. But the problem is that many young people who have been influenced by the Western culture choose celibacy or DINK (double income no kids).

Yet things are not always the same, when they are awaken they can still make up. A friend of mine first claimed to be DINK with her husband, but now she has two kids. A famous Hong Kong movie director Tsu Hark（徐克） in his late 60s, married a much younger girl for having his own sons to carry on his family name, after divorcing his long time wife who agreed not to have kids in their life.

Is Chinese culture any less family-oriented than it was in the 19th Century?

One thing that the Nationalists and the Communists had in common was that they saw that as a problem, as a national weakness. They wanted everyone's first loyalty to be to the nation, not to the family.

 

[gxnn]

One over Taiwan.

Also, I have heard the PRC covets Siberia. Just for its mineral wealth.

That part was the territory of the Qing Dynasty, the predecessor of the current government, before it was occupied by Russia, which was unable to make it a better place. So it is very natural for us to take it back when the conditions are right and mature. The US has taken the now New Mexico and Texas and the Mexico government has every right to claim the sovereignty when it is strong enough, there is no doubt about that.

Is Chinese culture any less family-oriented than it was in the 19th Century?

One thing that the Nationalists and the Communists had in common was that they saw that as a problem, as a national weakness. They wanted everyone's first loyalty to be to the nation, not to the family.

It is China's tradition that without a country there is no family or household. So country stands before the family, that is for sure. Even those outsiders like Mongolians or Manchurians or other ethnic groups, after living and mixing with Han people for many generations, have changed their concepts and will unite as one when facing big challenges. Taiwan authority of course knows about that, so they tried to sever the relation with the mainland, but history is nothing that they can stop, both sides have so many exchanges and the influence is mutual. But the domination of tradition is over the dangerous thinking of independence.
Chinese people do not like wars, but when there is no choice, they are all crazy as never before seen and you can make an interview with the old US veterans of Korean war to know about the evaluation of Chinese Volunteer Army, and whether they are like the armed forces of Italy or France during World War II who cried uncle and surrendered to Africa or Hitler within a very short time.

 

[ChloeTzang]

That part was the territory of the Qing Dynasty, the predecessor of the current government, before it was occupied by Russia, which was unable to make it a better place. So it is very natural for us to take it back when the conditions are right and mature. The US has taken the now New Mexico and Texas and the Mexico government has every right to claim the sovereignty when it is strong enough, there is no doubt about that.

Exactly. There are large chunks along the border, as I pointed out previously, that are histotically, traditionally and culturally part of China and should be returned to Chinese sovereignity. People forget that Russia was one of the Colonial Powers of the 18th and 19th centuries, but where Britain, France, Germany, Italy, and earlier, Spain and Portugal, practiced maritime expansion and colonialism, mamimg it obvious that they possessed colonies, Russia's olonial expansion was eastwards, by land, over areas contiguous to Muscovy. This visual discrepamcy has hidden the obvious - that every part of "Russia" east of the Volga and the Urals are colonies, and Russia remains THE last of the European Colonial Empires that has not freed it's colonies from the yoke of colonial oppression.

The sooner these borders areas are returned to China the better.

It is China's tradition that without a country there is no family or household. So country stands before the family, that is for sure. Even those outsiders like Mongolians or Manchurians or other ethnic groups, after living and mixing with Han people for many generations, have changed their concepts and will unite as one when facing big challenges. Taiwan authority of course knows about that, so they tried to sever the relation with the mainland, but history is nothing that they can stop, both sides have so many exchanges and the influence is mutual. But the domination of tradition is over the dangerous thinking of independence.

Taiwan will inevitably reunite with China and it won't take a war. Trump has made it plain the USA will not fight a war for China. Japan, South Korea and China are now uniting in the face of Trump's tariffs, and Australia and New Zealand will likely join them. Trump has succeeded in the impossible, and made Japan, South Korea and China allies. Taiwan will bow to the inevitable and reach a political accommodation, which, given the close ties between China and Taiwan, would make a lot of sense. The rest of SE Asia will increasingly reach accommodations with China, facing up to the inevitable fickleness and unreliability of the USA.

Chinese people do not like wars, but when there is no choice, they are all crazy as never before seen and you can make an interview with the old US veterans of Korean war to know about the evaluation of Chinese Volunteer Army, and whether they are like the armed forces of Italy or France during World War II who cried uncle and surrendered to Africa or Hitler within a very short time.

China has survived for 5000 years and fought off and defeated or assimilated every invader. There is no reason to expect anything different. The USA moves in 4 year cycles. China plays the long game. If not the 21st, then the 22nd Century will be the Chinese Century of modern times. Trump will not be the generator of a 2nd American Century. He stands for American Isolationism. The EU and China will increasingly align in the face of Trumpist hostility, and Canada will align with the EU rather than bow to Trump's braggadacio.

 

[ChloeTzang]

But here's another flashpoint between India and China....a hydro ram across the Yarlung Tsampo in the Himalayas - not a very stable geographical location. And it also gives China control over a major supply of water to India and Bangladesh.

 

[Hel_Books]

Meanwhile, President Trump is all erectile at the thought of the zillion-dollar F-47 air force fighter jet (AKA "expensive target carrying a human pilot") that will be useless against a swarm of inexpensive drones.

Think Maginot Line, folks!