Incest stories!

[kingman]

Hi

I must have read all of the mother/son incest stories 4-5 times and find that they repeat themselves over and over again.

Now this is a tough thing to state but before writing a story shouldn't the writer know what was written before.

The mother/son stories that seem to be the best rarely go over two pages and do not repeat themselves more then twice.

The whole excitement of the Taboo is the way it starts off between mother and son. To jump into something without the build up is like having sex without any foreplay.

Let a story build without wasting words on nothing pertaining to the seduction. Who cares about what they ate while at dinner or a discription of a house.

Please when a story starts and the mother is discribed as a fat dumpy woman or the son with a loss of a limb or small dick we just go to the next story.

And while l'm on the subject when discribing the length of the male penis, lets get real 6-7 inches will due. Maybe 8 inches but when going beyond that we go to the next story.

Lately we have been bored with the new stories and started looking else where.

Please think about what l said and when editing the stories please check the grammer and spelling a little closer.

Thanks

Alan

 

[jon_jones]

It's horses for courses.

Some people like a build up that isn't all about the relationship between the characters. Think of the last novel you read, it has information that isn't directly important to the plot, but is still important to the feel of the story.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say mom/son stories repeat themselves, do you mean within the same story or there are recurring themes in this genre? It's hard to be totally original and there only so many situations that can lead a mother and son together.

As for the description of less than perfect characters, yeah it'd be nice to read a story where everyone is perfect, but that's not the real world. Some like to write stories about superhuman type mothers and sons (G.H. Lawrence, for example) but others like a bit more reality.

And if you're going to complain about "grammer and spelling" at least spell grammar correctly.

Sorry if this seems like i'm having a pop at you, i'm not. I don't think so, anyway.

Jon

 

[kingman]

Hi Jon

I'm talking about within the story, and as far as the filler is concerned it really isn't needed unless it directly helps the plot of the story.

Don't get me wrong some of the stories are really top notch but lately there have been a lot of let downs.

And as far as my spelling is concerned, l could use a lot more practice typing correctly.

Alan

 

[kingman]

sorry

 

[Lena_Hornee]

sorry

Hey, don't be apologizin'! I agree with most of what you say. I like the build up to the act more than the sex itself. That tension created by being tempted, by taking little steps closer to what's forbidden, and getting obsessed with a fantasy of the deed before actually doing it is so exciting to me. Very few incest authors do it well. I just posted my concept of the perfect incest story (not that it is), but it is the kind utterly wicked tale I personally would love to see more of.

Some authors seem confused about their objective. If it is to be a novel or novella, then readers know up front they are to relax and get used to the slow pace of things. But a short story dedicated to sex has mostly one purpose, and that's to excite readers (and usually help them get off). So like you say, story details that don't contribute to the build up of excitement only get in the way.

I get pretty bored hearing worn out seduction themes like massages, or going to dinner with "her young man," or the sadness of the crying mom comforted by the son, or helping him/her have their first sex, etc. Also hard to relate to are entire families who start fucking. The most intimate, intensely sexual experiences are one to one. Incest is extremely taboo, so stories where everyone is just jumping into it with abandon aren't very credible.

I think the best stories are written by authors who can find some bit of experience to build on. Then they can better build into the story those feelings which accompany incest. That's where it's really hot. At least, that's my two cents worth!

 

[Guest]

You are welcome.

But, am I?

 

[kingman]

Sorry???

Hi Lena

All that l was sorry about is that l double posted. But l happen to agree with you regarding setting up the story line.

I do not get off watching porn but get off reading it with company.

Alan

 

[Stardog Champion]

I've dabbled with a couple of incest themes in my stories over the years and I have to agree that the genre, in general, lacks the passion and depth it deserves.

Part of the problem I think, is the same catch-22 that all the other catagories face here at Lit. Its wonderful that anyone with a story to tell has a chance to post here at Lit..the price of that free reign however is that a lot of unfocused, bland and mindless drivel gets posted as well( and yes, my stuff has been accused of being the latter several times so I'm not ridiculing anyone's efforts)

But the incest catagory has always left me with a feeling of disappointment. Many of the stories are so matter of fact.."blah blah..Yeah..I just fucked my Mom..blah blah blah.." or "Aint it neat..blah blah blah I just bedded my Daughter"

Part of the implied 'heat' that comes with the taboo of incest should create more powerful and moving stories than what we see posted on a daily basis.

But it gets back to my previous point, most of the writers here, me included, are not professional writers. Detailing a sex act is not that hard to do...getting inside the character's head and helping convey to the reader what might be going on inside of the participants' minds while such a a life changing act as having incestual relations is a pretty tough thing to capture, I'd guess even for a pro. So in the end, most of the stories we see at online are relativly devoid of plot and character development.

Thanks for letting me ramble, Stardog

 

[Sabledrake]

I've written a fair amount of incest stories, and I desperately wanted NOT to do the usual sort of thing that's seen on here. Getting into the characters' heads and figuring out their motivations for such acts ... except that most of the time, the characters in question either start off or end up kind of ... well, deranged But it's certainly fun!

Sabledrake

 

[Boxlicker101]

This has been covered in other threads but I will offer an opinion anyhow. Incest stories are fairly tame here because of the limitations. We can't write about the teenager who rapes his baby sister when he should be baby sitting her or the "funny uncle" and his 12 year old nephew or the man who sneaks into his young daughter's bed. I have one incest story posted, about a brother and sister, 18 and early 20's. Basically, two adults who happen to be related. I have another one submitted, about a man and his 18 year old niece, and some more in the works similar to the second one I mentioned.

That's not a complaint because I like children and wouldn't want to read or write about actual pedos but I could deal with a little younger than 18 but I have no problem with the limitations.

 

[Stardog Champion]

Boxlicker raises an interesting point.

I think the incest genre would certainly have more 'heat' if age limitations were lower. Afterall, the age of sexual discovery and incestual urges are highly intertwined. To me, a story of a 16 year old boy seducing/being seduced by his Mother or two 17year old siblings losing their virginity to each other carries more juice than having it happen in their 2's.

That said, I agree a line has to be drawn somewhere, and 18 is as good a place as any. I don't think too many peoples' sensabilities would be offended by a story with a 17 year old or even a 16 year old, but once you start down that slippery slope, the line of decency starts to get blurry very quickly.

I guess my moral compass sort of falls to the plan that whatever higher power you beleive in engrained in our human anatomy. Just from a purely sexual standpoint, once a person has crossed the line of being able to procreate (Puberty), it seems Mother Nature is saying, "sex at that age would be OK".

Of course other cultural, social and legal factors come into the equation which brings things back to the point of having to draw the line somewhere.

SC

 

[Stardog Champion]

2's in the above post should have read 20's.....

Sorry

 

[Boxlicker101]

2's in the above post should have read 20's.....

Sorry

You know, Star, you can hit the "edit" function on the lower right corner of your post and go back and correct typos or make other changes.

 

[kingman]

Conclusion

I guess the best way to fully understand the plight is to write an incest story myself and then submit it!

 

[dinesh24]

Mom son love please

I fully agree with Lena_Hornee views. The stories should be long enough that build up the tempo. The intitial seduction between a Mother and son is more erotic than the actual sex itself. Authors of literotica kindly note, I like stories like "Stranger" , "Abandoned", "Built for one thing", "Mother's milk" and many more. Please write long erotic mother son stories.

 

[Guest]

Incest is one of the most-read categories on Lit

I find that very interesting.

Since incest is quite a taboo subject in our society it seems many people must share a hidden lust.

I think Taboo is exciting because it is forbidden. Stories that play on this aspect are well-received.

And I have noticed that readers do not like the "cheating" stories. You know, a step-parent, step-child, etc. They want "true" incest. And it seems many readers want the daddy to impregnate the daughter. (Well - that doesn't truly interest me, but these are fantasy works, so whatever turns you on!)

I have 3 stories that qualify for the Incest/Taboo category. Two are uncle/naughty niece, and one is daddy/daughter.


I receive lots of votes and reads, but not as much feedback as I do on other stories. I wonder if there is a secret wish to remain anonymous about enjoying Incest stories???

 

[Boxlicker101]

Re: Incest is one of the most-read categories on Lit

I find that very interesting.

Since incest is quite a taboo subject in our society it seems many people must share a hidden lust.

I think Taboo is exciting because it is forbidden. Stories that play on this aspect are well-received.

And I have noticed that readers do not like the "cheating" stories. You know, a step-parent, step-child, etc. They want "true" incest. And it seems many readers want the daddy to impregnate the daughter. (Well - that doesn't truly interest me, but these are fantasy works, so whatever turns you on!)

I have 3 stories that qualify for the Incest/Taboo category. Two are uncle/naughty niece, and one is daddy/daughter.


I receive lots of votes and reads, but not as much feedback as I do on other stories. I wonder if there is a secret wish to remain anonymous about enjoying Incest stories???

I posted an incest story this month and I already have 112 votes on it, three PC and some email to me. This is the most votes I have ever received. The second most votes is on an anal story that was posted early this year. I have noticed these are quite popular also, probably also because of the forbidden nature of the subject although anal is a lot less forbidden than incest. First time is also a pupular category.

On the other hand, there are Sci-Fi, Romance, inhuman and novellas.

 

[nightshadow]

Almost all of the erotic stories I write deal with incest for the sole purpose that it IS the most taboo topic. It's titilating and somewhat alien to most people- typical folks just don't engage in that kind of thing for a wide variety of reasons, the Law of the Land being only one of them (but a prime factor). So, instead of breaking the law, people with such interests turn to fiction, where reality can be suspended for a while.

BUT!

Since the taboo topic of incest IS so "un-real", I find that I get more mileage out of an incest story when it comes across as being realistic. This means that the world around the characters should be described in detail, as well as the characters themselves. The writer owes it to his/her audience to put the story into a realist context because the audience is actually looking for a slice of reality in an unreal world.

In the real world, things happen slowly- especially when it comes to the seduction of a family member. Characters have to tread carefully and feel out their "prey" on a slow, steady basis, to make sure that they won't alienate or offend the object of their desires. During this entire seduction phase, other real-world things occur- school, work, friends, conversations, accidents, etc.... the little, everyday things that we would normally expect in Real Life- they help to make the overall story more realistic.

Also, it is a good idea to weave in some resistance for one or more characters in an incest story. Make it so that Character A wants to have an incestuous affair with Character B, who not only hasn't considered it but might find the idea repellant and frightening. When the author creates that kind of internal struggle/conflict, it makes the story more realistic. It presents a challenge to the reader, who will often find him/herself thinking, "I wonder what I would do in that situation? How would I deal with it differently? WOULD I deal with it differently?" Nine times out of ten, the good, solid stories are the ones where the situations are dealt with in such a manner that most people identify with and even encourage the characters in their quest.

And don't lose sight of that important word: quest. Every story is, at its heart, a journey, from start to finish. There has to be a good-news/bad-news scenario in order for the audience to feel stimulated by the storyline. Ups and downs, pitfalls and successes, triumphs and trials.

As someone who loves a good story, I typically zip right on by the wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am type stories. There's no substance or development there, no story. Those kinds of stories read to me as little more than vignettes and not actual stories.

I come here to write and share STORIES. In particular, stories which people will hopefully find enjoyable, entertaining and worth their while. And I also improve my craft by paying attention to the feedback I get on my work. It's good to know when I screw up so that I don't do it again. By the same token, it's good to know when I get it right.

In the feedback I get on my stories there is an overwhelming amount of praise but scarcely little in the way of true and honest critique (NOT to be confused with criticism.... there's a difference). While the "Hey, man, great story!" comments are indeed good to see, I usually stand up and take notice when I get an email or message in the Public Comments section where someone has pointed out some gaffe I've made- continuity errors, suggestions, typos, improper use of grammar, etc. Solid critiques, IMHO, are woefully lacking here and that, to me, is a far worse travesty than anything else.

If you see a story that has potential to be something really good but ends up falling flat on its face, you would do the author a service by figuring out where he went wrong and saying so. I typically do this in the Public Comments section so that other audience members can get the hint that constructive criticism is okay and that it shouldn't be confused with needlessly bashing a person. And constructive critique is as much about the mistakes as it is about the achievements- tell an author where he/she goofed AND surprised you all in the same post and you increase your chances of seeing better output from that author at a later date. In a sense, you're actually helping yourself by pointing those kinds of things out to others.

Just some food for thought.

 

[MLyons]

Not to overstep my bounds, but if you're interested in meaningful critique, why not try the Story Discussion Circle forum, which Pure and a core group of others are keeping alive and well?

There's no one scheduled for next week, and the only requirement is that you offer two in depth critiques to stories that are currently, or have been previously featured for discussion in the circle.

To sign up your story for discussion (whether already posted, or not yet posted, it doesn't matter), go to this thread:

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=185375&pagenumber=4

Pure can give you more details.

I've done it, and found it extremely valuable. Just a suggestion.

 

[iluvsxykitten]

agree that subtlety is the key, less cliches like 1inch dicks,bigger than his father gasps, etc
ps anyone listen to sxy_kittens stories, shes hot theres oneb/s incest story as well.plus shes gorgeous as well as having the hottest voice ever

 

[Sabledrake]

nightshadow > well said! My feelings exactly. Crafting the story, that's the important thing as far as I'm concerned.

Sabledrake

 

[BlackSnake]

I hear your cry.

I've been tossing "stuff" out on Lit trying to find out if the stories I wrote are interesting to readers. I am comfortable enough now to end some of the suffering the readers are subjected to when reading first drafts. Basically, that's what I've posted.

Look for future well written short stories from BlackSnake.

 

[BlackSnake]

Feedback:
Yea ur Speeeling Sux Dude! I h8 diks who kant speeel! <pop> Oh, I take my head out of my ass and now I don't seem to mind as much! Great story,ignore the asshole! Looking forward to more!

 

[MagicWand]

The drama of taboo

the incest category seems to be one of the most popular. Unfortunately, a lot of it becomes so....so similar. The idea is that it is so taboo that the act is avoided at all cost. This would make situations become dramatic but so many of these stories fall short mostly because it is unrealistic.
How many stories are written with the same premise...relative walks in or peeps in on other relative while masterbating then all of a sudden all normal mental functions seize and they fuck.
That is so unrealistic and undramatic (is that a word?).

I have written a few stories, some never started out to be incest stories, but became such because I wanted to make it more dramatic and add shock value.

incest by accident, incest by being forced to or drugged, incest by being tricked....those types are maybe not truly realistic but they are dramatic.

My stories try to create some psychological impact on the incest commited by the charactors. Check them out and please let me know what you think - Magicwand

 

[kingman]

Sounds Right To Me!!

Hey Magic Wand

I know you hit the nail on the head, and that is exactly how l feel.

If a story has to go more then 2 pages l lose interest and go to the next one.

And as far as the sequels, l never read them because the most interesting part already happened and if it didn't l skip it completely.

Alan