Importing Illegal Sex Offenders

[zeb1094]

IMPORTING ILLEGAL SEX OFFENDERS

As the debate rages over the illegal alien invasion, people are focusing on several reasons why they don't want an invasion force of millions streaming across the border from Mexico. They cite the fact that those entering the country are breaking the law, driving down wages and driving up the costs of social services. But there is also one consequence of the Bush Administration's open borders we haven't heard much about. Sex criminals.

You already know that communities go to great lengths to notify residents whenever a sex offender is living in town. They publish websites telling you exactly where the registered sex offender lives and what they were convicted of. People use this information to decide whether they want to move away, what neighborhood to relocate to. and so on. It's an important issue...but did you know how many of the 12 million illegal aliens already here are sex offenders?

A recent study tells us that there are some 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders each having committed an average of 4 sex crimes. Were these crimes committed in Mexico or Latin America before these pervs crossed the border? Nope. Those crimes were committed right here in the United States. That's 1 million sex crimes committed in the U.S. that, if we had secured our borders, might not have occurred. Hundreds of thousands of children's lives affected, perhaps destroyed; women living with the history of a violent rape or assault, all because the federal government can't live up to its main responsibility: to secure the border.

And what's worse is that more are on the way. The Violent Crimes Institute says 93 illegal alien sex offenders and 12 serial offenders cross the border every day. And guess what....because they're here illegally, they likely aren't registered...so people won't know where they are so they can avoid them.

Just another consequence of lax border enforcement.

 

[SensualCealy]

There should be a world law for sex offenders, cut off their fingers, their tongues and their genitalia and poke out thier eyes, stick them in a box to rot!

None of this letting them out on good behaviour or probation shit!
C

 

[minsue]

Do you have any sources on this that aren't obviously vehemently opposed to immigration, based on thier list of other articles on the site, and possibly a little more credible?

 

[zeb1094]

Do you have any sources on this that aren't obviously vehemently opposed to immigration, based on thier list of other articles on the site, and possibly a little more credible?

I don't believe they are "vehemently" opposed to immigration, I believe they are opposed to the governments open border policy. And it's not immigration if you cross the border illegally, it called an invasion or a criminal activity at best. Immigration is when you fill out the proper forms and abide by the laws of the country you wish to enter.

So let's quit calling it immigration, it's not. There is a reason for our current immigration laws and if you would like to see them changed I suggest you write your congressman. Until then IMHO I believe 'everyone should' have to follow the law.

 

[minsue]

I don't believe they are "vehemently" opposed to immigration, I believe they are opposed to the governments open border policy. And it's not immigration if you cross the border illegally, it called an invasion or a criminal activity at best. Immigration is when you fill out the proper forms and abide by the laws of the country you wish to enter.

So let's quit calling it immigration, it's not. There is a reason for our current immigration laws and if you would like to see them changed I suggest you write your congressman. Until then IMHO I believe 'everyone should' have to follow the law.

Fair enough. Let me try this again -

Do you have any source for this information that isn't from a site filled with page upon page of propaganda?

 

[zeb1094]

I guess that all depends on how you define propaganda? One mans propaganda is another mans news. But even Homeland Security thinks it's a problem...

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_0211.xml

 

[Pure]

This is the original story Zeb is going on. Its figures seem a bit speculative. She arrives at the figure of 240,000 offenders – a conservative estimate, she says – through public records showing about 2 percent of illegals apprehended are sex offenders.

The figure of 12 million is highly uncertain--estimates range from 5-15 million. *That is a figure of those who, it's estimated, came over the border from Mexico*--i.e., they are Mexican and Salvadoran, etc.

The definition of 'illegal immigrant' seems blurry. It's unclear who is illegal in terms of entry, and who is illegal, *after legal entry,* because of a crime committed, leading to efforts to deport.

She looked at 1500 'offenders'--she did not have a sample of 'illegals' to determined the incidence of 'offenders.'
It's also mentioned below that non Latin American sources were in her sample, e.g. those from Vietnam, who may well have been legal (as to entry).

What is unaddressed is the obvious question, Do illegals, so called, esp. from Latin America, commit a disproportionate number of sex crimes. I.e. do we know that 2% of illegals are rapists, whereas amoung good upstanding white americans it's only 1%. OR, if illegals are 4% of the US population, are, say, 8% of violent crimes committed by 'illegals.'



INVASION USA
Study: 1 million sex crimes by illegals
Researcher estimates more than 100 offenders crossing border daily

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Posted: May 31, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Deborah Schurman-Kauflin in CNN interview
Based on a one-year in-depth study, a researcher estimates there are about 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States who have had an average of four victims each.

Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute in Atlanta analyzed 1,500 cases from January 1999 through April 2006 that included serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants.

She found that while the offenders were located in 36 states, most were in states with the highest numbers of illegal immigrants. California had the most offenders, followed by Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, New York and Florida.


Schurman-Kauflin concluded that, based on a figure of 12 million illegal immigrants and the fact that more of this population is male than average, sex offenders among illegals make up a higher percentage than offenders in the general population.


"This translates to 93 sex offenders and 12 serial sexual offenders coming across U.S. borders illegally per day," she says.

She points out the 1,500 offenders in her study had a total of 5,999 victims, and each sex offender averaged four victims.

"This places the estimate for victimization numbers around 960,000 for the 88 months examined in this study," she declares.

Schurman-Kauflin breaks down the 1,500 cases reviewed this way:


525, or 35 percent, were child molestations

358, or 24 percent, were rapes

617, or 41 percent, were sexual homicides and serial murders
Of the child molestations, 47 percent of the victims were Hispanic, 36 percent Caucasian, 8 percent Asian, 6 percent African American and 3 percent other nationalities.

In 82 percent of the cases, she noted, the victims were known to their attackers.

"In those instances, the illegal immigrants typically gained access to the victims after having worked as a day laborer at or near the victims' homes," she says. "Victims ranged in age from 1 year old to 13 years old, with the average age being 6."

In her examination of the sex-related homicides, Schurman-Kauflin found the most common method was for an offender to break into a residence and ambush his victims.

Not only were victims raped, she said, but some – 6 percent – were mutilated.

"The crime scenes were very bloody, expressing intense, angry perpetrator personalities," she said. "Specifically, most victims were blitzed, rendered incapable of fighting back, and then raped and murdered. The most common method of killing was bludgeoning, followed by stabbing."

She found it especially disturbing that in 22 percent of all sex crimes committed by illegal immigrants, victims with physical and mental disabilities were targeted.

The highest number of sex offenders, according to the study, came from Mexico. El Salvador was the original home to the next highest number. Other countries of origin included Brazil, China, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Jamaica, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, Russia, and Vietnam.

Nearly 63 percent of the offenders had been deported on another offense prior to the sex crime, the study showed. There was an average of three years of committing crimes such as DUI, assault or drug related offenses prior to being apprehended for a sexual offense.

In 81 percent of cases, offenders were drinking or using drugs prior to offending. Rapists and killers were more likely to use alcohol and drugs consistently than child molesters.

Only about 25 percent of offenders were found to have been stable within a community. In 31 percent of the crimes, the offenders entered into the communities where they offended within two months of the commission of their sex offenses.

But many, 79 percent, had been in the U.S. for more than one year before being arrested for a sex crime. They typically were known to the criminal justice system for prior, less serious offenses before they molested, raped or murdered, the study said.

Schurman-Kauflin concludes illegal immigrants gradually commit worse crimes and are continually released back into society or deported.

"Those who were deported simply returned illegally again," she says.

She points out that only 2 percent of the offenders in her study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.

"There is a clear pattern of criminal escalation," she said.


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[minsue]

I guess that all depends on how you define propaganda? One mans propaganda is another mans news. But even Homeland Security thinks it's a problem...

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_0211.xml

I define propaganda as writings disseminated to persuade others to the writer's point of view, usually containing "facts" with no actual factual basis given to back them up.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that criminals do not flee to the US. Just as US criminals flee to Mexico and Canada, I'm quite certain the reverse happens as well. I'm just wondering where the numbers cited come from. There is nothing to justify them other than "a study" and they are so hyperbolic as to rouse my skepticism.

Your link from the US gov't refers to 89 arrests in June of 2003 and 88 arrests during a separate investigation ending March of 2003. That's a far cry from the supposed 93 sex offenders crossing the border illegally daily listed in your original post. If there's any proof of this, or any thing close to it, shouldn't the author have thought of detaining said people as he/she counted them? Or at the very least, alerting the authorities?

 

[Pure]

dhs figure

from zeb's citation

Operation Predator is yielding dramatic results, including the following:


During a weeklong, nationwide enforcement action ending on June 30, ICE fugitive operations teams apprehended 89 foreign nationals who had been convicted of sex offenses, but had subsequently evaded law enforcement efforts to remove them from the country. In Chicago alone, ICE teams arrested 37 convicted alien sex offenders during this period.

The operation is aimed at sex offenders. It speaks of 'foreign nationals' among them, i.e., does not distinguish legal and illegal entry. Obviously, some are 'illegal' simply because there are efforts to deport them after crimes.

There is no breakdown in terms of Latin American origin. Some may be Chinese or Vietnamese.

From the number 89, I wonder how one [Prof Shurman] gets to extrapolate to 240,000.

 

[minsue]

From the number 89, I wonder how one [Prof Shurman] gets to extrapolate to 240,000.

You're not the only one.

 

[Liar]

Are there legal sex offenders?

 

[Guest]

 

[Liar]

All of us?

Well, I kind of do things that are offensive to sex in general on a daily basis.

 

[zeb1094]

I define propaganda as writings disseminated to persuade others to the writer's point of view, usually containing "facts" with no actual factual basis given to back them up.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that criminals do not flee to the US. Just as US criminals flee to Mexico and Canada, I'm quite certain the reverse happens as well. I'm just wondering where the numbers cited come from. There is nothing to justify them other than "a study" and they are so hyperbolic as to rouse my skepticism.

Your link from the US gov't refers to 89 arrests in June of 2003 and 88 arrests during a separate investigation ending March of 2003. That's a far cry from the supposed 93 sex offenders crossing the border illegally daily listed in your original post. If there's any proof of this, or any thing close to it, shouldn't the author have thought of detaining said people as he/she counted them? Or at the very least, alerting the authorities?

The doctor was the author of the study done. She investigated the reported crimes and from those numbers using scientific methods extrapolated the numbers. At some point science does have to be the basis for theories. And if you know how many crimes were commited during a specific period (reported or criminal caught) then using certain mathimatical formule and algorythms that deal with statistical probablity and social dynamics you can devine a number which my not be fact but will be within a high probability of being correct.

I believe she has alerted the authorities with the publication of her study.

 

[minsue]

The doctor was the author of the study done. She investigated the reported crimes and from those numbers using scientific methods extrapolated the numbers. At some point science does have to be the basis for theories. And if you know how many crimes were commited during a specific period (reported or criminal caught) then using certain mathimatical formule and algorythms that deal with statistical probablity and social dynamics you can devine a number which my not be fact but will be within a high probability of being correct.

I believe she has alerted the authorities with the publication of her study.

She looked at 1500 cases that occurred over the course of 7 years and came to the conclusion that almost 100 new sex offenders are illegally crossing our borders every day. That's an amazing leap of faith you're taking, Zeb. The only way to believe that is to want to believe it.

 

[zeb1094]

She looked at 1500 cases that occurred over the course of 7 years and came to the conclusion that almost 100 new sex offenders are illegally crossing our borders every day. That's an amazing leap of faith you're taking, Zeb. The only way to believe that is to want to believe it.

To each their own then. You belive what you want and I'll belive what I want. Not that I believe any of what was printed, but it seems that CNN thought it enough to interview the good doctor. Not that I believe everything that is run on CNN by any stretch.