I'm tired of the jerks on this board!

[Javagirl]

Seriously, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all! I'm tired of the crap from this board!

This is an amateur site, not the freaking New Yorker!
So my story sucked this time around, so sue me!!! There's no need to tell me my story is drivel.

To Anonymous Ground Zero: where are your stories and submissions? Have you ever heard of positive reinforcement and did you bother reading any of my other stories? Also, where have your works been submitted and published? I've had many of my stories published on well-known and reputable erotica sites (and not just Literotica).

I'm tired of this site. Between pulling off my pictures and now this negative criticism regarding my writing, I've had it with the losers and posers who are making this site unwelcoming and unfriendly.

I hate pompous people and I'm tired of the negative crap from this site. Another reason to stay away from this site and the jerks who roam here.

Thank you to the NICE people and positive comments from those who have submitted comments to me about my pics and stories.

 

[BlackShanglan]

I am, of course, extremely sorry if someone told you that your story was "drivel." It's really not necessary to be cruel in order to be honest, and I hope that you do find some of the more charming and delightful critics - Varian and Ginger spring notably to mind.

I'm not so sure about this, though:

if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!

Perhaps I have a skewed perspective. For some reason, one of my all-time favorite comments on a draft was "Stop. Please, God, stop!" I adore the critic (you know who you are, you wily, charming, silver-tongued thing you). But that aside ... a review that says only positive things is no help to me in improving my work. I need to know what doesn't work. It can be painful, but I think that many critics spend time on the details that need to change because, honestly, we all lead busy lives and we assume that we don't need to say "don't change this at all" very often. I've had work ... shall we say, "extensively worked over," and it can be painful, but it's an opportunity to grow. I weed out the ignorant and hateful, and I try to take what I can from those who express themselves a bit more clearly.

Eventually, one toughens up. At least, I assume that this is why I laughed when I did receive a private feedback message stating "Sorry, but I can't read this drivel." That was rather unlovely - but I've survived it.

I hope that you do as well.

Shanglan

 

[hiddenself]

Bye bye.

 

[moonwolf69]

Well, I have only managed to finish one story and get it up so far, but I did recieve some interesting comments. I think you have to take what they say with a grain of salt. Of course your work will not always appeal to everyone, though some people will expect it to. And (never start a sentence with 'and') when they find that your story does not appeal to them, some people take it upon themselves to attack you over it.

I tend to think, and perhaps it is just something I tell myself for comfort, but I tend to think that those sorts of people havn't written much of anything themselves, and don't really know how difficult it is.

Those negative comments do bite into you though.

 

[AtlantisRising]

Wow, sorry for that. Feedback is great but people shouldn't be jerks.

 

[Honey123]

J-girl, I can't apologize for the "jerks" who send feeback that hurt. But, I can say that you shouldn't let what they say deter you from writing again. I find that all feedback I get helps me become a better writer.

I received feedback from ChilledVodka once that said "Did I write this shit?" Which stung. But then I realized that life goes on. My story appealed to everyone else, but CV...and that's ok. I received feedback that called me a slut...and I thought, well, if the person thought I was the character in my story, then I hit a sore spot, didn't I? Got somewhere with the reader. And isn't that what we want?

If there weren't jerks in life, we'd never try to be better....

Good luck with your stories...do post a link on the bottom, because I would like to read them!

 

[JammieDodger]

Saying a story is drivel is just as useless as giving nothing but praise.

I think what it comes down to is that some people are quite simply not nice, now, I haven't got the balls or talent to write a story, so I don't know quite how it feels, but I've been insulted and hurt alot in my life and its something you get everywhere to stop writing just because of that is futile, you'll find a new activity, the same thing will most likely happen.

I don't know, I don't know what I'm saying, I guess some people are just cunts who simply don't care, being bothered to insult someone, but not being bothered enough to give constructive criticism, that sucks.

There, this is a pointless post of mine, sowwy!

 

[laziboi]

I just posted my first story here -- a rewrite of a story I wrote years ago for Usenet. And the first comment was very harsh! But since I wrote it to turn people on -- mostly myself -- not to impress them, I'm not going to let it bother me. It will find its audience!

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=173474

I'm writing porn here, but some folks are reviewing it like it's "erotica." My fantasies and sex history are both somewhat hackneyed, hence my stories are as well!

Javagirl: Go ahead and delete that inanane comment, and don't feel guilty about it.

Remitrom: Do the math yourself. Subtract five, dope!

 

[nikkijames]

Sorry to hear that there are such assholes sending the feedback... I haven't personally had anything published here yet, I have a few in the works though and I am scared to death of the feedback. However, I think that it is a growing experience and you have to toss out the fuck-tards that get off by pissing other people off and appreciate the ones that take time to give positive support for your work.

 

[Bridget69]

It's one thing to leave negative feedback and to give legitimate reasons for not liking a certain story, but it's a completely different matter when one becomes offensive and vulgar in their criticism. I'm sure the supportive people on here far outweigh the pessimists so you shouldn't give up on this site or on your writings.

 

[taille]

a review that says only positive things is no help to me in improving my work.

I think she is looking for constructive criticism and not the derogitory, inflamitory and/or insulting one-liners she's getting.

I've notice way too many idiotic feedback comments posted by cowardly and immature "anonymous" users. It makes me think this site is attracting users under the acceptible age limits.

If the site wants to continue to attract talented and developing erotica writers they should address this issue as quickly as possible. I for one will not post a story the way the site is currently designed.

Abolish anonymous feedback and voting!

 

[cloudy]

I think she is looking for constructive criticism and not the derogitory, inflamitory and/or insulting one-liners she's getting.

I've notice way too many idiotic feedback comments posted by cowardly and immature "anonymous" users. It makes me think this site is attracting users under the acceptible age limits.

If the site wants to continue to attract talented and developing erotica writers they should address this issue as quickly as possible. I for one will not post a story the way the site is currently designed.

Abolish anonymous feedback and voting!

Unfortunately, writers are going to receive some idiotic remarks and comments, it's just one of those things you can't do anything about.

I don't necessarily think that all the useless and hurtful comments come from people underage - it's not a requirement that you be underage to be an idiot, I see proof of that every day.

I think something that we ignore all too often is that this site is a free place for us to post our work, and hopefully, learn and grow as writers from the feedback we receive, and the interaction that's offered on the boards. Get it? It's free. Yes, I'm sure we all obsess to some degree about our story scores, etc., but the whole point is, we don't have to bust our asses to find someone to publish our work, we can do it for free here. It's not up to us how feedback, votes, or anything else is done. If I paid to publish my stories here, or had to pay some sort of membership fee, then I would feel that I had the right to some say as to how things are run, but it's free.

I don't think there's anywhere else that offers what Literotica offers in the way of readership, or opportunities to learn. I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

If a comment is made to be hurtful, delete it and go on. Sure, it hurts, but if it isn't actual constructive feedback, there's 1) no need to keep it, and 2) no reason to let it keep you from continuing to write, and hopefully, get better. In a way, if you pull your stories and refuse to post any more, aren't you sort of cutting off your nose to spite your face, and letting the idiots turn a site that is overall very high quality into one that isn't?

I'll keep on posting stories, keep on trying to learn something from my fellow authors, and hopefully, keep growing as a writer.

 

[taille]

I should have said it looks as if some of the postings are from underage users... not implying that they are all acts of minors.

I believe getting rid of anonymous voting and feedback only eliminates the freedom of ill-meaning individuals. Sure they'll still be able to act immaturely but it should make for a better creative environment.

What I'm proposing is a simple tweak to the site in the same way that unregistered users cannot post on this message board. It wouldn't take away from the site in any way.

I really enjoy the site but more and more it's being dragged down by the ignorant among us.

 

[CharleyH]

I really enjoy the site but more and more it's being dragged down by the ignorant among us.

Only because one allows it to be.

There is much more positive than negative feedback. I leave ignorant anonymous comments up for all to have a laugh at. I think the positive is seeing how ridiculously absurd others actually are, and thanking god most are not.

To ban the negative (figuratively) one might ask where comedy would be then, huh?

 

[avery_elzmyth]

butt kissing

Worse than the cruel reviews are the ones that give a story an undeserved top rating. I was in the mood for a good story this morning, so I clicked on the top rated ones. Within the first few paragraphs of the one I chose: a misspelled word and a scene that was completely unbelievable.

I've been in other online clubs where friends conspire to push their stories to the top while trashing those not within their circle. It's a sad sad situation when winning overpowers truth and learning.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

I think she is looking for constructive criticism...

I kind of doubt it, cf:

"This is an amateur site, not the freaking New Yorker!
So my story sucked this time around, so sue me!!!"

This is certainly not the kind of attitude of someone looking for constructive criticism.

 

[dominantmale]

sod the negative coments you keep writing what turns you on hon if they dont get it thats there prob not yours

 

[Sxymobbw]

feedback

I personally think the feedback is a good thing. I've posted several stories on this site and i've gotten both good and bad feedback. I do agree tho that name calling and bashing don't have a place in feedback. I think this is a great place for writer's to display our work and hopefully get constructive criticisms on how we can improve that work. Everybody's not gonna always like what ya write, so ya have to take the good with the bad.

 

[taille]

To ban the negative (figuratively) one might ask where comedy would be then, huh?

I've grown tired of reading idiotic anonymous feedback. There's only so many times you can read "It sucks" or "another wimp husband." You can find humour here.

All the negativity and fraud negates the usefullness of ratings (to point readers to better or hotter stories) and feedback. either get rid of the anonymous features or get rid of rating and feedback.

 

[taille]

I kind of doubt it, cf:

"This is an amateur site, not the freaking New Yorker!
So my story sucked this time around, so sue me!!!"

This is certainly not the kind of attitude of someone looking for constructive criticism.

if you read the comments here they're not exactly constructive or helpful. (some may have been deleted)

sounds like her comment is just frustration

 

[cloudy]

I've grown tired of reading idiotic anonymous feedback. There's only so many times you can read "It sucks" or "another wimp husband." You can find humour here.

All the negativity and fraud negates the usefullness of ratings (to point readers to better or hotter stories) and feedback. either get rid of the anonymous features or get rid of rating and feedback.

The ratings are basically useless anyway. Yes, I like to see a high rating on mine, just like anyone else, but they in no way reflect the quality of writing in a story. For proof, go read, say, the top ten ranked stories in any category, and then read something that's not in that top ten by Black Shanglan, or Carsonshepherd, or CharleyH, and you'll see exactly what I mean.

 

[CharleyH]

Thanks Cloudy. (blush)

She has a point Taille. I have never thought the ratings make too much of a reflection on a story. I have often found that the best stories are in the 4.50 - 4. 80 range. That is my experience anyhow, and I am certain others feel the same.

As for comments. I still think most comments directed maliciously and without merit toward a person are laughable. More recently, I have been stalked by a fool who has many ridiculous things to say. I did remove two PCs today with a note to readers as to why I removed the comments. (because I don't aspire to removing comments.)

The comments themselves don't really bother me, and the intent behind them is simply ridiculous, but it was obvious that they were made by this troubled and obsessed person who seems to be stalking me, so . . . removal because of their lack of substance.

Not even the worst of stories deserves a 1 in my opinion because the fact is someone made an effort to do what many others don't: write. That in itself accounts for something.

The problem is that some people just have nothing better to do with their lives than try to inflame others. If you get inflamed my friend, then they have done what they set out to do. If you laugh at them, because really, think about what their lives must be like?
Ok, think about it this way. If you are in an argument with someone and suddenly start to laugh at them. . . how much more does that hurt them than yelling even louder?

From the little that you said, I am guessing that your story was in the "Loving Wives" category? That specific comment about wimp husbands has been recounted time and again by other authors who write in that category, so you are not alone. And knowing those authors I speak of, you are in very good company.

Just a thought.

 

[taille]

I have not (and will not) post a story so I am wrath-free... at least I am on this board.

I've expressed my opinion because I feel sitting silently while writers are insulted is as bad as insulting them.

It's my opinion that there is no need to subject the talent that feeds this site to a hostile environment. There should be no need to "turn the other cheek" when there's a preventative technological solution.

It's not fair or appropriate and has/can/probably will drive great authors and stories away.

 

[Daisy May]

I haven't submitted anything yet. Just checking the site out. I guess we have to take the good with the bad. It's a shame. I have been reading some nasty comments. Someone is very bored, I think.

Don't let it stop you. Keep writing

 

[Amy Sweet]

I have not (and will not) post a story so I am wrath-free... at least I am on this board.

I've expressed my opinion because I feel sitting silently while writers are insulted is as bad as insulting them.

It's my opinion that there is no need to subject the talent that feeds this site to a hostile environment. There should be no need to "turn the other cheek" when there's a preventative technological solution.

It's not fair or appropriate and has/can/probably will drive great authors and stories away.

each author has the ability to turn off anonamous feedback, turn off voting and delete any comments that they don't like.

what more can you ask for?

If you don't want anyfeedback, just delete any email that says feedback without reading it.

I don't see why anyone should complain when the solution is within there reach.