I'm interested in reactions to this...

[Peregrinator]

Below is a link to another website...the video posted there is obviously homemade, amateur and it seems genuine. I'm interested in people's impressions of the young lady in it. I found myself thinking it was a touch pathetic, and I wanted to sit her down and have a chat with her. I also found myself turned on. Whattya think?


http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?ID=37916&type=1&page=1&fav=0

 

[kissmet]

Hi! i tried to take a peek......but it needs to have something downloaded to view her.

One man's pathetic is anothers dream fantasy come to life....sorry that i cant see it now.....

i did notice that the site is part of one called SickFuck something or other.....lol....

 

[NCShin]

Looks at sounds legit to me, a computer age love letter of sorts. Cute girl too. Nothing to do with BDSM tho

 

[Peregrinator]

Yeah, I thought about that...

"Nothing to do with BDSM tho"

It seemed that it could lead that direction...toward the end she's making some statement to the effect that she'll do anything he wants. If that were directed my way, I'd have her on her knees pretty quick. One of the fun things about the video--for me anyway--is wondering how far she would go. What indignities is this guy worth to her?

 

[NCShin]

yes but taking advantage of a young girl isn't what BDSM is.

 

[Peregrinator]

Your point is well taken, and I think that's the part that makes her presentation a little pathetic...I have the sense that she is saying "I'll do anything you want; just ask and it's yours" but not actually understanding the depths such a statement could indicate. Witness, for example, that the video was posted by someone on a voyeuristic and very public website. I get the impression that she sent it to her intended and he posted it for all the world to see, an act of overt and outrageous cruelty in my mind. It's almost like she offered and he called her bluff. I have a pretty mixed reaction to the whole thing. My first impulse was really paternal; I wanted to sit her down and have a chat with her about protecting herself. I absolutely agree that taking advantage of young girls is not what bdsm is all about. I'm not sure De Sade would agree, necessarily. He wrote about tearing out the nipples of serving girls for the pleasure of the tearers, for example. Probably not done in a supportive, affectionate way. I'm glad people are posting here; the vid was thought-provoking to me and I hoped it would also be conversation-provoking.

 

[Betticus]

Obviously "Matt" got the hell away from this chick for a reason.

Cute, but psycho I'm thinking. She didn't seem too sincere, more like she's just trying to tease him for leaving her.

I bet she's from Pueblo. Nothing but psycho chicks just like that in Pueblo.

 

[RJMasters]

Hmmmmm

Well, not sure. Don't know the specifics of the situation, but I almost got the impression, like Matt was her meal ticket of sorts.

The way she said "all the shit you put me through" and the whole presentation, seemed like she was disconnected from her emotions.

It was kinda of like watching an online video of phone sex. Her goal was to keep you on the line for as long as possible to get you to pay that $$$ a minute, only for an ongoing relationship with Matt.

Like I said, I don't know, maybe it was her first time doing that and she was desperate, and this was her attempt to fight for her man. Basically saying, "I can be as slutty as them other girls who now have your attention Matt. Let me prove it to you." There were moments when she seem awkward, and not sure of herself.

Either way, I think some serious mind fucking is going on. The jury is still out on who's mind fucking who.

Without any other details, this was my two impressions I got form watching it.

 

[Peregrinator]

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I bet she's from Pueblo. Nothing but psycho chicks just like that in Pueblo. [/B]

Snort! I can't wait to get out there sometime. Maybe we could start a whole website: www.HotdesperateyoungPueblans.com? Think the url is already taken?

 

[curiousjen]

I think its sad that in our society a teenage girl's sexuality too often manifists itself as desperation and neurotic obsession rather than rather than self assurance and respect. I felt sorry for her. I think theres a big difference between being submissive and being desperate. I'm pretty new to all this, but one thing i'm learning is that the words "i'll do anything" are rarely a sexual submissives catchphrase, rather there are clearly defined limits and boundries in BDSM- hence the safewords and negotiating. It rather depressed me- that video. I knew so many girls in my school days who I can imagine doing similar things and it used to bum me out then.

On the bright side, she had a good pair of knockers

 

[Peregrinator]

Beautifully done, CuriousJen. We're going to have to make you an honorary New Age Lip-Service Guy. To stay in the club, you have to express serious, genuine reservations about abuse of any kind--or even the evident manifestation of past abuse--and then walk into the men's room, look at the guy at the next urinal, and say something like, "She has great tits, huh?"

You're a natural, and I love you for it. I don't buy the notion that because we feel sorry for someone we can't also notice her beauty.

 

[MissTaken]

I can't seem to get the vid to work, but want to know how old this girl is?

 

[Kajira Callista]

I can't seem to get the vid to work, but want to know how old this girl is?

uhmmmm younger then she should be?

 

[Sir_Winston54]

My impressions...

For what it's worth...

1) It would not surprise me to learn she is under 18 - nor would it surprise me to learn she is over 18. She appears to be in that nebulous age range where it's really, really hard to tell. They often have such great maturity in some areas, and such great immaturity in others, and waver - even vibrate (no double entendre intended) - between the two levels.

2) It saddens me that such a lovely girl is so desperate that she made such a video, even if it were (as apparently intended) to be seen only by the person she made it for. It is quite possible that this video will follow her for the rest of her life, because it has gotten quite a bit of attention on the internet. Surely, someone who will recognize her has seen it, or will see it soon, and either tell her, or worse - share it with many people who know her. It would not surprise me if she were to then perform an even more desperate act.

3) There is little we can do, as individuals or as a community, to prevent this type of act recurring, except in one important area: our own progeny. Her self-esteem is obviously quite deficient, or she would not be so desperate for "Matt" to claim her. What we can do for our children is help them build their own self-esteem through encouraging and teaching them to accomplish things for themselves. We cannot give them self-esteem - it is earned by the individual for doing something in which they can take pride. That is what we can teach our children - to take on tasks, accomplish them well, and take pride in their accomplishments. They will not then be in such a perilous and pitiful a situation as this young lady is. My heart goes out to her, and I hope she finds some answers - not Matt - soon.

 

[Peregrinator]

Well said, Sir Winston. The more I thought about this thing today, the less I liked the whole business. This is a classic degradation, even if the actual behavior is self-directed. Perhaps more distressing is the forum from the website where I found the vid...full of crass and shallow commentary and only occasionally mitigated by humor or compassion. It's here for anyone who wants to see it. I suggest skimming.

http://forums.consumptionjunction.com/showthread.php?threadid=20903

I must say that overall, I'm warmed by the Literoticans' responses. We are nearly universally concerned about the lass. That's a hopeful thing in a nasty universe.

 

[cellis]

I watched the video and here is my take... It was shot on more than one occassion and there seemed to be someone in the background directing the girl. While she looked quite young... she was not too young to have breast augmentation... If those are not store bought tits I would be surprised.

There is a change in lighting from scene to scene... and if you watch the first part closely when she removes her panties she has a bush... and then she is smooth shaven...

Why... because she can... I don't think it is serious... I think she thinks this is a joke....

 

[NCShin]

I just went back to see the things you pointed out cellis but i now get the message: File removed.

so I'd bet it was brought to the attention of the site that she was underage.

 

[NCShin]

ah found it in the forums there, but i don't see what you're talking about. The lighting changes as the camera adjusts when the light from the window is being blocked. I never see a cut in the film. it's continuous, I also never see her unshaven.

The only part I find odd is the fact that she is shaven. She doesn't look to have implants. If she is the age I think she is then her breasts look fairly normal for that age.