I'm a Leftist Democrat and I want to give Tom Daschle a bitch-slap right now.

Never

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I typically celebrate bi-partisanship, since Bush was appointed president I've cheered when the Senate Majority manages to trip up Republican efforts. Politics-As-Usual is both ineffective government and necessary government in my own, only slightly informed, political philosophy. Still, I understand that there are times when PAU needs to be set aside. When it's time to substitute conflict for cooperation; it seems the Democratic Party disagrees with me. If you don't know what I'm rattling on about, I'm talking about the Economic Stimulus Bill that was shot down before it even left the ground.

This county is hurting; the economy is as flaccid as Bob Dole's penis before Viagra yet the Senate packed itself off today so the members could enjoy the holidays and won't be meeting again for another month. Why wasn't the bill passed? PAU.

Yes, the bill was crafted by those on both sides of party lines. Yes, it contained a balance of issues from both sides. Yes, the President was backing the bill. What was in the bill?

  • A 13-week extension of unemployment benefits for workers who lost their jobs after the recession began in March.
  • Those same workers would have been eligible for a government voucher to pay 60 percent of their health insurance costs.
  • It gave displaced workers the option of buying their health insurance through their previous employer or buying it on the open market.

A year and a half ago this is a bill the Democrats would have been singing the praises of while the Republicans lamented the 'welfare' state. What happened? PAU.

In Majority Leader Tom Daschle's own words:
``The longer we're unsuccessful in addressing it, I think the more responsibility for the economic circumstances the Bush administration must take.''

Basically, we have a situation where the President's approval rating is soaring which makes Democratic politicians very nervous. No matter how well a President is doing his approval rating is strongly tied with the economy, they can drop and rise almost as one.

I'm not saying this bill is perfect, no one is. It is, however, needed. And if this partisanship continues it will be many months before any bill is passed. Perhaps more Democrats should listen to the words of Sen. Zell Miller: "you can eat half a loaf. Having no loaf at all...somebody goes hungry."

It seems Daschle is willing to let the American economy go hungry for something as trivial as Politics-As-Usual.
 
Lavy? Why are you posting as Never and what did you do with the real Never, huh?
 
Actually this Bill is lousy. I dont see it doing anything to turn the economy around, it looks much better on paper than it will translate to in the real world. The economy needs to find its footing on its own at this point, artificial Gov stimulus may apear to lessen the danger but in fact it only postpones it.

I would rather we develop a solid foundation before the next upswing. One based on production and technical development rather than speculation and P/E ratios.

The economy had been in trouble for 18 months. Slashing plans and throwing money we dont have at it will look great. The fact is that the economy is healing itself.

Make no mistake, this is a political Bill, not an economic one.

Now turn off CSPAN. Stop drooling over Strom Thurmond.

(Perhaps I should edit this but its too late, Im sticking to my promise to go to damn bed.)
 
Pheonyx:
" Can I bitch slap him as well even though I am Canadian?"

Yes.

Cheyenne:
"Lavy? Why are you posting as Never and what did you do with the real Never, huh?"

I suppose I deserve that.
 
PS: I don't have television and have no idea who Strom Thurmond is.
 
you don't know who Strom Thurmond is?!?

Strom Thurmond makes Bob Dole look like he's just been shot out of his pappy's gun barrel, he's so old! you want to know who Strom Thurmond is, conjur up a founding father in a seance(sp?) or with an ouiji(sp?) board and ask them! (Top Ten Things the Founding Fathers Would Say If They Were Alive Today: #7. That's odd -- in my day, we also had a senator named Strom Thurmond.)

seriously, though, he's been a senator since the late 1940s! i mean, he's as old as Dick Clark!
:eek:
 
Jeez, you sound like me, but you forgot to throw in a shot at the Clinton's.

I think the economy is bigger than the bill. Neither side cares if it passes, only what hey they can make out of it in '02 and '04. It is the greatness and work ethic of the American people that will turn things around despite what Washington does to us. I wish they'd let us keep more of our own money to spend, invest, or give to charity.

Good post though. I welcome every opportunity to agree with the members of my former party even though I have become a rich, evil conservative.
 
Never said:
Cheyenne:
"Lavy? Why are you posting as Never and what did you do with the real Never, huh?"

I suppose I deserve that.

hehe... I didn't mean anything bad by that comment, Never. You just don't normally start threads about politics and/or the economy. You're more a "meet me at the pier at midnight" kind of gal. Maybe living with Lavy is starting to rub off on you?

Now if we could only get a bit of Never to rub off on Lavy... ;)
 
tsk tsk tsk

Never said:
PS: I . . . have no idea who Strom Thurmond is.
Strom Thurmond was governor of South Carolina when stormed out of the Democratic Presidential convention in 1948 because the young mayor of Minneapolis--Hubert H. Humphry--introduced a civil rights plank to the platform. He ran as a racist, a "Dixiecrat." The incumbent president, Harry Truman, had his party split three ways, because Henry Wallace--another one-time FDR veep--also ran as an independent. This was the brilliance of Truman's victory over Dewey.
Hopefully, Thurmond will die in office, as So Carolina now has a Democratic governor who will be able to appoint a Democrat for the balance of the term, and help increase the majority.
As for the bill--I think it's bad too. I say to Daschelle, "Keep the faith, baby!"
 
Daschle is a DickHead.

We do a lot better with republicans in control of the congress and a lame duck or hard dick democrat as president. It's always good to throw a republican in office once in a while to wage war and appoint supreme court judges.

With any luck, the two surviving liver cells in Teddy's liver will give out before Thurmond dies and Kennedy can descend to the lowest level of hell.
 
kotori

I find your post interesting on a couple of levels.

Obviously, you disdain the ballot box. Power by any means, heh?

Remember Dashle prior to jumpin' Jim? Why things were so close, and your victory so illigitemate (that's not the word they used, it's on the tip of my brain, but it keeps tripping over the wiskey. Glad you asked! Crown and Coke. Tis the season.) why don't you share power? But that talk ended as soon as Jim jumped, even though the balance of power was still so very close.

And the hate, just like Hillary. No Joe [Biden], don't leave for Strom's sake. I want him dead. Again, for the sake of power not won at the ballot box.

Are you that kind of proud Democrat?
 
Never said:

Cheyenne:
"Lavy? Why are you posting as Never and what did you do with the real Never, huh?"

I suppose I deserve that.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this...
 
*blinks*
Wow, you demorats and repuglicans are getting rather hostile on this one aren't you?
 
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