Illustrated stories?

[NightPorter]

The guide in the FAQ seems pretty straight forward for the most part. No hardcore photos, only soft nudity allowed. Hardcore is allowed for drawings and CG stuff. My confusion is this part here:

- Like all other submissions on Literotica, images must be your original work - i.e. photographs that you yourself took, or paintings or drawings that you yourself created. Please do not submit photos or other images you have found elsewhere.

So this rule clearly isn't accurate. The top rated story in the category makes use of a another photographer's work, with permission I'm assuming, as part of the story. Did the rule get changed?

Can someone with experience in the category clarify for me. Are the following allowed:

Public Domain images?
Paid for Commissions?
Paid for stock photos?
Other artist's work with permission?

 

[RejectReality]

It's probably going to boil down to what degree of certainty you can provide to Laurel that you have permission to use the images in the story. That's really what the rule is about, more than anything.

 

[HeyAll]

I asked. It's fine if you have consent from the photographer.

The intent of the rule is that you can't just take something you found off the internet. I'm assuming it's to prevent Lit from being loaded with copyrighted porn.

Also, you can't have anything with links on it. Can't promote another site.

 

[NightPorter]

I asked. It's fine if you have consent from the photographer.

The intent of the rule is that you can't just take something you found off the internet. I'm assuming it's to prevent Lit from being loaded with copyrighted porn.

Also, you can't have anything with links on it. Can't promote another site.

Thank You for that. I appreciate the responses.

I have plans to turn my current series into a universe with multiple stories taking place in the same town. I thought it might be fun to make an illustrated sourcebook/glossary of characters, places, reading order ect. at some point in the future. I just can't draw to save my life so I would need other people's talents for that.

 

[TheRedChamber]

Necroing thread as my question is related.

I have an Amorous Goods story that would involved a cursed transforming painting. I'd like to include images for each different works of art, as the story won't make as much sense without them. All paintings are very clear public domain as the painters have been dead for (often significantly) over a 100 years. Images can be sourced from WikiMedia no problem. A literal reading of the rules suggest this is not allowed, only works you created yourself. I'll probably end up PMing Laurel as I don't want to write it only to get tangled up in a technicality, but does anyone have any experience of something similar?

 

[SimonDoom]

Necroing thread as my question is related.

I have an Amorous Goods story that would involved a cursed transforming painting. I'd like to include images for each different works of art, as the story won't make as much sense without them. All paintings are very clear public domain as the painters have been dead for (often significantly) over a 100 years. Images can be sourced from WikiMedia no problem. A literal reading of the rules suggest this is not allowed, only works you created yourself. I'll probably end up PMing Laurel as I don't want to write it only to get tangled up in a technicality, but does anyone have any experience of something similar?

This is a great question and I don't know the answer but I would suggest PMing Laurel ASAP to see if you can get a preliminary opinion. It seems to me if you can establish beyond question that the images are public domain and you can provide proof of that and there are NO concerns about the use that you SHOULD be OK, but of course that means nothing when the decision-making is up to a third person.

But I have a second thought: this may not really an Illustrated story, as you describe it. Whatever the description of Illustrated stories, the reality is people read them because they like erotic pictures to accompany the story. If the pictures are not themselves erotic or do not depict erotic events as described in the story, then readers may be let down. Perhaps that's another question to send to Laurel.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Necroing thread as my question is related.

I have an Amorous Goods story that would involved a cursed transforming painting. I'd like to include images for each different works of art, as the story won't make as much sense without them. All paintings are very clear public domain as the painters have been dead for (often significantly) over a 100 years. Images can be sourced from WikiMedia no problem. A literal reading of the rules suggest this is not allowed, only works you created yourself. I'll probably end up PMing Laurel as I don't want to write it only to get tangled up in a technicality, but does anyone have any experience of something similar?

I'd be inclined to reference the paintings in the text by name. The art itself may be in the public domain, but copyright in decent images might well be held by the art gallery where they're displayed.

That way, art buffs will know the painting, those that are interested can look it up, and philistines won't care. If it's a big list, you could repeat it at the bottom, with a note saying where the art is on display.

 

[TheRedChamber]

But I have a second thought: this may not really an Illustrated story, as you describe it. Whatever the description of Illustrated stories, the reality is people read them because they like erotic pictures to accompany the story. If the pictures are not themselves erotic or do not depict erotic events as described in the story, then readers may be let down. Perhaps that's another question to send to Laurel.

That had also occurred to me, in the sense that I'd really like this story to go in either Fantasy or Erotic Horror and for it just to happen to contain some helpful illustrative images. If it goes in illustrations, you're right it'll probably get dinged by those expecting spicier, but that's secondary to the major nightmare of writing 20,000 words and then getting blindsided by a refusal. Regarding how erotic it will be, this is one the main images.

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Not pornographic, but a very nice prompt for a Literotirca story. Several other authors are no doubt halfway through their own first paragraphs about it as we speak...

I'd be inclined to referencing the paintings in the text by name. The art itself may be in the public domain, but copyright in decent images might well be held by the art gallery where they're displayed.

That way, art buffs will know the painting, those that are interested can look it up, and philistines won't care. If it's a big list, you could repeat it at the bottom, with a note saying where the art is on display.

That's what I'd have done if I'd finished it and got blocked. I've got another project in the works where the images are not public domain but are easily available on the Internet and I'm doing it that way (although for that project it's less important that the reader sees every image.)

It adds an extra level of work for most readers though and many won't bother, making me wonder if the story would still be worth writing under those circumstances. I've got plenty of other projects to get on with.

WikiMedia states the following on all the images pages.

The official position taken by the Wikimedia Foundation is that "faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain".
This photographic reproduction is therefore also considered to be in the public domain in the United States. In other jurisdictions, re-use of this content may be restricted

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems reasonable ot me.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Regarding how erotic it will be, this is one the main images.

I do love a bint in a lake. Those Pre-Raphaelites, you've got to love them!

The water must from a warm spring, they don't look perturbed at all. And look, their hair's not even wet!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I do love a bint in a lake. Those Pre-Raphaelites, you've got to love them!

The water must from a warm spring, they don't look perturbed at all. And look, their hair's not even wet!

That's only because the guy hasn't gotten around to dunking them yet.