If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

[Weird Harold]

... Will anyone ever believe:

But organizers are playing down the swimsuits, saying the contest showcases the talents and aspirations of today's young women who want to make the world a better place and brighten it with their good looks.

The 50th Miss America Pageant finals are Saturday in Atlantic City, NJ. I've heard he same claim from orgnizers every year and still think it's all about SEX.

They didn't fool me when I was five, and with anew 2 year contract With Speedo to provide suits for the swimsuit competion I believe them even less this year.


http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/US/09/17/miss.america.swimsuits.reut/vert.miss.america.ap.jpg
"Miss Utah, Amy Davis, won the Miss America swimsuit preliminary."

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Does anybody actually watch it anymore? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that it's ratings had slid down so low that the network (ABC, CBS? I forget which) was considering not even covering it anymore.

 

[minsue]

Does anybody actually watch it anymore? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that it's ratings had slid down so low that the network (ABC, CBS? I forget which) was considering not even covering it anymore.

Hence the itty-bitty bikinis, CD.

Speedo spokesman Craig Brommers said the suits will make a splash in the Miss America telecast, which has been losing viewers in recent years.

"It does give the show and the pageant a sexy makeover that is right for the times but still in the tradition of honoring what Miss America stands for," said Brommers, vice president of marketing for Los Angeles-based Speedo.

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Hence the itty-bitty bikinis, CD.

If they want to save the ratings, I think the bikinis better get even more itty-bitty.

 

[gauchecritic]

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/US/09/17/miss.america.swimsuits.reut/vert.miss.america.ap.jpg
"Miss Utah, Amy Davis, won the Miss America swimsuit preliminary."

I'd just like to ask: How?

There's nothing there to put a swim suit on.

Gauche

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

I'd just like to ask: How?

There's nothing there to put a swim suit on.

Gauche

The article I read didn't provide any other pictures -- for all I know, she's the "Fat Chick" in the competition.

 

[oggbashan]

Did you know that Miss Gibraltar is part of the contest?

With a total population of about 30,000 they don't have a wide choice of contestants.

Miss Gibraltar is usually eliminated in the preliminaries but she gets a free trip to the US.

Why no Miss Falkland Islands - there are a lot of ewes to select from?

Og

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Re: Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

The article I read didn't provide any other pictures -- for all I know, she's the "Fat Chick" in the competition.

Yeah, look at her, she's gotta weigh at least 65 pounds!

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

Yeah, look at her, she's gotta weigh at least 65 pounds!

Like any of you guys would turn her down!

 

[gauchecritic]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

Like any of you guys would turn her down!

Been there, didn't do it. Got the t-shirt emblazoned with the logo "Fuck Off Skinny"

Gauche

 

[R. Richard]

Weird Harold: You say:
"The 50th Miss America Pageant finals are Saturday in Atlantic City, NJ. I've heard he same claim from orgnizers every year and still think it's all about SEX."

I would politely disagree. Yes, the sex is there, but I would think the main event here is TEASING!

If they want me as a viewer, they will add an event where they take off the tiny bikinis. That, I could watch!

 

[mtnman2003]

Although........

Miss Utah.... probably a good mormon girl....

Healthy, attractive..... I like lean and athletic!!

Gauche...... like the bigger meat girls huh.........

Oh what the hell, trueth be known, we like most all of them!!

But she is not hard to look at.......

Mtn

 

[Weird Harold]

Weird Harold: You say:
"The 50th Miss America Pageant finals are Saturday in Atlantic City, NJ. I've heard he same claim from orgnizers every year and still think it's all about SEX."

I would politely disagree. Yes, the sex is there, but I would think the main event here is TEASING!

If they want me as a viewer, they will add an event where they take off the tiny bikinis. That, I could watch!

True, if they want to increase their ratings, you'd think that would work -- (but the Miss Nude USA pageant barely made costs when they tried pay-per-view.)

The pageant has consistently pushed the boundaries of what's acceptable for as long as I've been aware of it (and I can remember Bert Parks' lousy singing and even more sappy MC'ing.) If they pushed it much further, they'd lose money paying the FCC fines.

I suppose we can always hope for a "wardrobe malfunction" (IIRC, there have been one or two in the past when the pageant was broadcast live and consistenelty a top rated program.)

 

[doormouse]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

Been there, didn't do it. Got the t-shirt emblazoned with the logo "Fuck Off Skinny"

Gauche

That is just so fucking grotesque and UNfunny.

Some of us are born that way. Some of us can't help our build. Some of us WISH we could be plump just to rid ourselves of the fucking 'skinny' label.

Edit: Okay, I've edited my abuse

It just touched a nerve, sorry.

Going back to my hole to hibernate.

 

[gauchecritic]

I've very recently posted to the Mathgirl thread that she was one of very few people who understood me and my idiosychratic posts. (It's all about ME)

If I have to explain, then I obviously didn't make the point I thought I was making.

(Yes I do know people (several, men and women and pre-pubescent girls) with eating disorders)

Tasteless, perhaps, unfunny? no.

We're talking about women taking part in a 'beauty' pageant who have been driven all their lives by what the media says is beautiful. That is grotesque.

Women who are willing to denigrate themselves and say to the world "even though I'm showing you my mostly naked body for your tittilation please don't stare at my breasts when you should be looking in my eyes" That is grotesque.

Women who undergo expensive and unnecessary surgical procedures in order to pander to the popular press's juvenile idea of what makes a woman attractive. That is grotesque.

Pre-pubescent girls making themselves seriously ill and always hungry for some imagined external image. That is grotesque.

Me having a t-shirt that does little more than point me out as a twat? That is funny.

Gauche

 

[doormouse]

THAT didn't even come close.

I've danced all my life(since I was 8 anyway).

Eating disorders are rife in the industry. Just TRY to eat something fattening and you have NO idea the shit we copped!!!

It's not about 'beauty'. It's about INDUSTRY!!!!! They have a stereotypical image to uphold as do dancers.

There's a thin line between models/dancers/beauty pageant contestants!!

It's all about IMAGE, not beauty. I'm older now, and fifteen years after my bulemia, I still hate what I eat. Calling someone skinny is just a coward's way out of understanding what's going on behind that thin frame.

So, I weigh 93Lbs. 43kgs for you people on my side of the pond. I'm still me. I still love my body. So I don't have the curves, just don't call me SKINNY!!!!!!

Okay, [/end rant]

sorry Gauche. Your comment just hurt.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

She's foxy, haven't a clue what ya'll are complaining about. She's not "skinny" at all. She's got lean muscle mass, looks to be in fairly great shape.

She's hot.

Mmm.

 

[Guest]

She's foxy, haven't a clue what ya'll are complaining about. She's not "skinny" at all. She's got lean muscle mass, looks to be in fairly great shape.

She's hot.

Mmm.

Strongly concur.

I'm a sucker for muscular abs on a woman.

Doormouse, at 93lbs I;m intrigued. I haven't weighed that little since I was about twelve.

 

[McKenna]

Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

I'd just like to ask: How?

There's nothing there to put a swim suit on.

Gauche

 

[McKenna]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If yuu repeat a lie for fifty years...

Been there, didn't do it. Got the t-shirt emblazoned with the logo "Fuck Off Skinny"

Gauche

 

[McKenna]

We're talking about women taking part in a 'beauty' pageant who have been driven all their lives by what the media says is beautiful. That is grotesque.

Women who are willing to denigrate themselves and say to the world "even though I'm showing you my mostly naked body for your tittilation please don't stare at my breasts when you should be looking in my eyes" That is grotesque.

Women who undergo expensive and unnecessary surgical procedures in order to pander to the popular press's juvenile idea of what makes a woman attractive. That is grotesque.

Pre-pubescent girls making themselves seriously ill and always hungry for some imagined external image. That is grotesque.

Me having a t-shirt that does little more than point me out as a twat? That is funny.

Gauche

 

[McKenna]

But organizers are playing down the swimsuits, saying the contest showcases the talents and aspirations of today's young women who want to make the world a better place and brighten it with their good looks.

Frankly, I'd rather they brighten my world with their good works.

 

[Belegon]

in regards to the point brought up by Doormouse and Gauche...

DM, please don't get mad at Gauche. His point seems to be directed at the images made out to be the preference in the media and how unlike most men's real preference it is.

He is certainly NOT talking about people whose natural body weight is on the lighter side of the scale. He seems to be talking about the people who try to force their weight there and the media that drives them to believe that is desireable.

There is a HUGE difference between someone whose natural weight is lighter and a person who starves themselves.

I'm sorry you have been a target for people who assumed you were in the other camp. I certainly try not to prejudge based on shoddy evidence and I think you will find most of us in the AH are similar. Now, over in the GB I make no such assertion...

The whole Kate Moss look sickens me too. The idea that a woman should starve herself to achieve it sickens me more. An athletic woman whose normal body weight is light? TOTALLY different story. And it is obvious which one I am looking at in a very short period of time. Energy levels, pallor, facial structure. You can detect it.

Q. Where do the negative "skinny" comments primarily come from? Men or women?

 

[McKenna]

Belegon, have you thought of taking up a job in translating?

Or, better yet, you could be a diplomat!

 

[vargas111]

Could we have a Miss Pregnant America? Ok they could let married women in, too so Miss/Mrs./Ms Pregnant America.