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[MissTaken]

Click on the "BDSM Free For All" at the top of the Forum page.

I am moving threads, but cannot pm every poster with which thread has been moved. I am pm ing the thread starters though.

 

[MissTaken]

Two things:

1. If you feel a thread was moved erroneously, let me know. For right now, I am just using my best judgement and it is not perfect.

2. I am moving all the birthday threads and am not pm ing the thread starters. Sorry all. It is just that this is going to take some time and it seems quicker and easier to give everyone notice on the birthday threads.

 

[Lancecastor]

Why not a separate Birthdays & Announcements Subforum?

 

[Richard49]

Why not a separate Birthdays & Announcements Subforum?

Why cave into the bullies and change anything

 

[Lancecastor]

Why cave into the bullies and change anything

Precisely my point...the bullies are making unilateral changes on personal whims again...this is not the Freedom you fought for, is it?

 

[Richard49]

Lancaster

I think your behavor and that of the "women" that came charging in here is just plan abusive and bulling.....

I see you two no higher then lance the moron

All yoou two have achieved is
0...nothing ...or worse then nothing because
you have enraged many ...like me ......

You are seldom here and only came here to stir shit up

Thios board is my home away from home

I do not think Miss T handled a lot of things in the best interest of the boards and have shared that with her in PMs

By allowing bulling, giving it premission and caving into you
she has endorced people abusing people

Freedom I fought for...... no where in copy of the consitution
(and that is what I fought for)
does it say that private boars like this have to allow FREE SPEECH

especail free speach that is abusive to others

I will post no more on the subject
I find this whole thing stressful and sickening

 

[Lancecastor]

Sometimes I don't understand you, Richard. I can remember a half dozen times threads have been moved or deleted here and every time there was a big dust-up....Writer Dom went right off his stick once in Jan of 2002 I think it was and most guys here backed him up against Cym's imperious unilateral bullshite...in a Free Society it's not those fighting against censorship you should be pissy with...it's the fascists doing the censoring you should be against!

 

[Pure]

What's sad is that the 'anti-fascists' mostly have so little to say.

And sorry, but Literotica playgrounds are not Spain of the 1930s.

The real fights--as in Congress, over internet legislation-- that do have meaning are about content, i.e., hard core porn or political material, not "Can A call B a stupid jerk" without getting 'moved'.

 

[SilkVelvet]

A minority of ppl whinged eg Cheyenne (and like is she a regular poster here ??? ) and threads were moved. No one has to read threads they don't want to, we pick and choose ourselves and I thought the whole idea of this forum was to be a community for everyone to enjoy.

Edited to add: someone made a point that the thread moving was arbritrary depending on who posted it. This has been done with threads moved to Free for All. My word association thread was moved, Bunny Bondage's Japan threads were moved, the sun signs thread was moved, as well as The Fireside Lounge..but I notice Richard's Bionic Single Dom thread was NOT moved. (I am NOT having a go here, so please don't take it personally Richard !)I am just pointing out that the thread which covers a whole variety of things NOT a single topic, and often with humour, has NOT been moved when others were. So the newly conceived policy of if it ain't serious it gets moved to Free for All is not being done in a fair to all way.

I think they should all get moved back into BDSM Talk myself because I don't think it is a moderator's job to move threads in response to criticism by a minority but rather to create subforums at majority request

 

[MissTaken]

Thank you, silken,

The moving of threads is something I was uncomfortable with as I realized when doing so, that the intend to move away from a moderated forum was leading to more moderation.

So, keep the feedback rolling.

As for their being inequity in the movement of threads, I have only moved a few and if I move them all, it will take a long time and certainly wouldnt' put any sort of a positive spin on the new forum.

I am wondering, if it is better to leave the current threads alone and let the forum develop on it's own?

Any thoughts, anyone?

I will be checking on this end for feedback, but please, feel free to respond.

 

[navarre]

Lancaster

I think your behavor and that of the "women" that came charging in here is just plan abusive and bulling.....

I see you two no higher then lance the moron

All yoou two have achieved is
0...nothing ...or worse then nothing because
you have enraged many ...like me ......

You are seldom here and only came here to stir shit up

Thios board is my home away from home

I do not think Miss T handled a lot of things in the best interest of the boards and have shared that with her in PMs

By allowing bulling, giving it premission and caving into you
she has endorced people abusing people

Freedom I fought for...... no where in copy of the consitution
(and that is what I fought for)
does it say that private boars like this have to allow FREE SPEECH

especail free speach that is abusive to others

I will post no more on the subject
I find this whole thing stressful and sickening

AMEN Richard, AMEN

 

[MissTaken]

So, Richard and navarre?



The same lit rules that allow "bullies", allow you to voice your opinion, criticize the bullies or ignore them.

Also, the sub forum isn't a new idea and isn't only in response to this weeks confusion. There have been many complaints about fluff threads, hijacking, and that sort of thing. And yes, MANY complaints about flames. With teh second forum, the feeling was that those who wanted to discuss BDSM in a serious fashion, without interruption could do so, and those who want to play, flirt, flame, joke, discuss current events etc could do so without negative feedback.

However, in the wake of the changes, a number of other issues have presented themselves.

This may be a temporary thing or may not be. So keep your feedback coming and feel free to pm Laurel and I with your concerns.

As for "bullies?" What does anyone suggest be done about bullies. They won't be banned and they won't be censored. If you start censoring the negative posters, then you have to censor everyone.

Let me know...

 

[Cheyenne]

I've been here at Lit years before this particular issue on the bdsm board came up and I'll be here years after it is forgotten. I had nothing to do with your new "sub" board (and yes, I know that has a different meaning in your lives. I meant a sub of the main board.) Look to Laurel as the one who did that FOR you.

If you're interested in the history of the boards, go back about 1 1/2 years to look at the birth of the Playground. All hell broke loose when Laurel started the Playground and made it a part of the personals board, just to get all the "fluff" away from the people who actually wanted to place personal ads at Lit, or find ads at Lit. You'd think Laurel had taken their first born child the way people moaned and groaned about their threads being moved back then! Ask Renegade, he was the moderator who lived through that one.

I propose that if Laurel asked people onthe Playground if they wanted to give up their board today and be mixed back in with the Personals ads that there would be an even BIGGER shit fest of complaints. In other words, it was a GOOD move for them. I'd trust Laurel and give your new "sub" board a chance. The woman knows what she is doing.

 

[Desdemona]

Jeez, I get up this morning to peruse the threads and I find a completely different place. Personally, I don't see the point in having 2 separate forums. It sort of serves to divide the community and besides, I'm lazy. I don't want to have to keep up with more than one forum.

 

[Richard49]

So, Richard and navarre?



The same lit rules that allow "bullies", allow you to voice your opinion, criticize the bullies or ignore them.


As for "bullies?" What does anyone suggest be done about bullies. They won't be banned and they won't be censored. If you start censoring the negative posters, then you have to censor everyone.

Let me know...

I suggested on another thread that maybe a class at the local Women's Resourse Center might help to understand what abuse is and buillies are abusers ..........

So I do not agree that the same rules that allow them to bully allow us to criticize

Also I have posted that the more you ... yes you Miss T ... publically "approved" of bulling as free speech .... the worse it got her .........

Did I just bully ... no ... I pointed out a behavor you did and what I see as part of the consequences of that behavor.......

What do i suggest be done with bullies?
You have made it clear that it is acceptable behavor
soI guess that is NOTHING that can be done

Except

to ask you in the furture to NOT endorce that kind of behavor as acceptable

and yes Miss T I realize that this post and others I have made are a total waste of time .... no one cares ....... especailly you
but just as I posted once ... if I saw abuse in a store I would do something ............

We as a people want to send our boys and girls to other countries to kill abusers but will not do anything oursleves ....
what does that make us ...... my now dead father would say it makes us cowards

 

[Croctden]

Sure I'm new, but I'll stick my two cents in

I'm not particulary old or wise, but one truth I'm pretty sure of is that it's almost impossible to control the flow of speech, especially in this setting. I'm not going to hop around in rage, but I will say I think Ms. T. has made a hell of alot more work for herself.