If I were a democrat and all my senators supported the Pledge Of Allegiance

Gee, my senators have once again thwarted the obvious liberal agenda of wasting time on piddleshit. :rolleyes:

I do vote Green when I can.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Pledge Allegiance to America.

Shove it in your ass, commie.
 
nothing. according to your elected officials

Well GOOD then, that's one of the few times we are completely in agreement with one another! :)
 
Vote Green!

I bet Ralph wouldn't be a pansy to the Godful minority.
 
Originally posted by WriterDom
nothing. according to your elected officials
This is what has given me pause to wonder if perhaps there is something seriously wrong with it. I mean, how often is a politician right or standing up for principle?
 
Unclebill said:
This is what has given me pause to wonder if perhaps there is something seriously wrong with it. I mean, how often is a politician right or standing up for principle?

Bill, you and I disagree on a number of things politically. However, I think you've hit on something here. If 100% of the House or Senate agrees on a bill, you can probably assume that there's something in that bill to be afraid of. Very afraid.

Everyone's worst nightmare should be that these elected crooks agree enough on anything to tamper with the Constitution. Dog save us all if that day comes. :)
 
Given the 1942 version was at a time of war and people wanted to reaffirm their allegiance to the USA, I see nothing wrong with it. The 1954 version included God in it, obviously to thwart being labeled as a Godless Commie. It used to taught along with citizenship class, which has gone by the wayside. Uncle Bill is right, when politicians are for something, it's usually wrong for the rest of us!

Vote Libertarian! LP.ORG :D
 
As a schoolboy, one of Red Skelton's teachers explained the words and meaning of the Pledge of
Allegiance to his class. Skelton later wrote down, and eventually recorded, his recollection of this
lecture. It is followed by an observation of his own.



I - - Me; an individual; a committee of one.

Pledge - - Dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity.

Allegiance - - My love and my devotion.

To the Flag - - Our standard; Old Glory ; a symbol of Freedom; wherever she waves there is respect, because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts, Freedom is everybody's job.

United - - That means that we have all come together.

States - - Individual communities that have united into forty-eight great states. Forty-eight individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose. All divided with imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common purpose, and that is love for country.

And to the Republic - - Republic--a state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people; and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people.

For which it stands

One Nation - - One Nation--meaning, so blessed by God.

Indivisible - - Incapable of being divided.

With Liberty - - Which is Freedom; the right of power to live one's own life, without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation.

And Justice - - The principle, or qualities, of dealing fairly with others.

For All - - For All--which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine.

And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands; one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance: Under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer, and that would be eliminated from schools, too?

Red Skelton


Thanks Red, may you rest in peace. What the fuck is up with people in this country? Is our flag next, will they come and try to take my flag down, because it offends someone? I do mean try, because it isn't going to be easy for them to do. Thank goodness for the second amendment.
 
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National pride has its pros and cons - one of the cons being that you'd be better off "pledging allegiance" to the betterment of mankind which itself knows no boundaries.

Its amazing really how far the "garden fence" mentality has taken us all when you think about it.
 
sch00lteacher

Is our flag next, will they come and try to take my flag down
YES, it is, in fact it has already happened where I live!

In some shitty liberal suburb out here in the Chicago-land area a year or so ago a man was fined, nearly arrested, and forced to take down his American flag in his own yard because his neighbor complained claiming that it made a "flapping noise" in the wind that bothered him! The man was a World War 2 veteran from what I remember (or possibly Vietnam War) who watched buddies die defending the honor of that flag and this is how the local government repaid his sacrifice!
 
The pledge isn't unconstitutional, the "under god" is. This will be overturned, but the decision is correct. When you get past all the hype & politics, the two words should never have been added.

I don't think "in god we trust" should be on our money either.

It is forced speech. I don't want to be handing out things that say "in god we trust."
 
Purple Haze said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Pledge Allegiance to America.

Shove it in your ass, commie.

Actually, it is a pledge to the flag of the United States of America, silly.
 
TWB said:
Actually, it is a pledge to the flag of the United States of America, silly.
It's to both, silly. To the flag, and to the republic for which it stands.
 
TWB

Jesus fucking Christ your stupidity is going to melt my brain out, I swear!

Do you even understand the CONCEPT of a flag?! It is a SYMBOL of the country, therefor when you are pledging allegiance to the flag you are pledging allegiance to the country the flag represents!

Too late, I can feel it seeping out my ears like ice cream in the sun! :eek:
 
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