If Cuba falls

[73Seahawks]

Some say Cuba had a "good economy" in the 1950s. So it had, but only in the sense Las Vegas has a good economy -- its loss to a Commie revolution would not be regrettable.

The question we should ask ourselves is this: Had Batista gotten rid of the Castro brothers and their ilk, would the 1959 Cuban Revolution could've been butterflied?

 

[Sign54]

The question we should ask ourselves is this: Had Batista gotten rid of the Castro brothers and their ilk, would the 1959 Cuban Revolution could've been butterflied?

Almost certainly. If they were dead of bullets, Cuba almost certainly would have taken a different path.

 

[LLCox]

trump can't win if anyone fights back. I give Cuba a 75% chance of kicking trumps ass.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Cuba on the brink? Only a matter of time. This is communism kids. Looking at you Radicalized.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

what if cuba was still in cahoots with russia russia russia since the 60s

 

[Wilson23]

what if cuba was still in cahoots with russia russia russia since the 60s

At the moment TRUMP is in cahoots with Russia, so Cuba probably can't rely on them.

 

[Wilson23]

The question we should ask ourselves is this: Had Batista gotten rid of the Castro brothers and their ilk, would the 1959 Cuban Revolution could've been butterflied?

That depends on what year they die. Castro was not a Communist in 1959, though the Communist Party was part of his revolutionary coalition. After he tried and failed to get American support or even tolerance for his revolution, he went Communist to get Soviet protection.

 

[Wilson23]

We need to remember, it's all about nationalism, not Communism. The people loved Castro because he was the first Cuban leader since 1898 to stand up to the U.S. and make it stick. The government's legitimacy doesn't depend on meeting any definition of socialism or democracy, it depends on defending Cuba's independence. In Europe in the 1990s, overthrowing Communism meant overthrowing the domination of an imperial power. In Cuba today, it means surrendering to one. The people don't want to do that, even if they're dissatisfied with their standard of living and suspect a market economy would help.

 

[Wilson23]

That's why, as I've said before, the best way to destabilize Cuba is simply to normalize relations. If large numbers of Cubans start visiting the U.S. -- seeing what it's really like here, visitiing their relations in Miami -- AND GOING HOME AGAIN, they'll start demanding changes. Which at least will be more publicly acceptable, because it is Cubans demanding them, not Yanquis with rifles.

 

[Wilson23]

https://apnews.com/article/cuba-us-diaz-canel-trump-rubio-f078518742b21ec735fa4a6959907ade​

Concern, anger and hope simmer in Cuba after Trump calls for ‘imminent action’ against government​

HAVANA (AP) — A mix of uncertainty, anger and hope simmered in Cuba on Wednesday following comments by U.S. President Donald Trump this week saying that Washington could take “imminent action” against the island’s government.

Trump, whose government has come at its Caribbean adversary more aggressively than any U.S. government in recent history, has effectively cut Cuba off from key oil shipments in an effort to force regime change. The blockade has had devastating effects on the civilians Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio say they want to help, leaving many desperate.

Island-wide blackouts have roiled Cubans already grappling with years of crisis, and lack of gasoline and basic resources has crippled hospital and slashed public transport.

Matilde Visoso, a single mother caring for a sick daughter, said she’s been left reeling by the island’s spiraling crisis, and wants change in the Caribbean nation.

“Cuba is waiting for Trump and Marco Rubio, because we can’t wait any longer. It’s too much — there is a lot of repression, there is a lot of hunger,” the 64-year-old homemaker said. “Cuba is in tears.”

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

At the moment TRUMP is in cahoots with Russia, so Cuba probably can't rely on them.

lol

 

[Wilson23]

https://english.elpais.com/internat...illa-god-willing-something-will-reach-me.html​

Cubans praying for humanitarian aid from the Nuestra América flotilla: ‘God willing, something will reach me’​

The island, under a near-total embargo, awaits the arrival Saturday of three ships sponsored by international organizations to alleviate basic shortages
“Friends of solidarity with Cuba shared messages for the Cuban people during a time of heightened threat.” Mariana turns up the volume on the television and listens to the day’s news on Cubavisión. She has been without water for two weeks, and her two-year-old daughter eats only yogurt because there isn’t enough for anything else. On the screen, Michele Curto appears, a member of the Nuestra América Convoy, an international initiative driven by social organizations to bring humanitarian aid to the island. Dressed in a white T-shirt that reads “Let Cuba breathe,” Curto states: “We’re not just doing this for Cuba, but for ourselves. We’re doing it as activists and thinking beings.” Mariana, 30, sighs and implores heaven: “God willing, some of that aid will reach me, because it’s desperately needed.”

Her small home is a makeshift corner of what was once a warehouse in Cerro, a working-class neighborhood in Havana. In the room where she sleeps, sheets hang from the ceiling to collect rainwater that seeps through the gaps in the roof; sometimes she uses them to wash the dishes. In this neighborhood, a couple of days ago, residents blocked the streets with tree trunks and empty buckets in protest, after 19 days without a drop of water. “We took to the streets because this situation is unbearable,” Mariana explains. “We didn’t plan it. One of us went out, and then the other mothers joined spontaneously. We can’t take it anymore.”