Ideas on mmf sex with my wife?

[Roleplay72]

I have been happily married for 13 years and our sex life is freaking fabulous! I am 41 and she is 33. We have been a bit adventurous over the years in having sex in open public settings, in front of an audience, with 3 other females early on (although I was stopped short of being with them due to her slight jealousy factor in those moments, but no big deal because she had her fun and I enjoyed watching). As of lately my sex drive has dramatically increased. Weird, but we are both loving it. We have been having all nighters nearly every week, experimenting in bondage, role play and most recently costume play. Several months ago I discovered Literotica and I could not get enough! I still enjoy visual porn, but the stories really got me going! Before long I wrote my own personal fantasy stories and left them for my wife to read. I saved one for last which involved sharing her with other men because I really wasn't sure how she would react to it. It was a 5 man on her scenario. Me in her mouth, one in each hand, and one in each hole and so on. She was turned on and we had stellar sex. I shared that I loved her and completely trusted her, and was game to really trying it someday. Either a 2 on one or even more situation. I just wanted to see her pleasured beyond belief, in complete and utter ecstasy as I looked in her eyes while she took another man (or men). I didnt want to push it too much but have periodically mentioned things on a few occasions while we had sex. Things like, I wish there was a big cock in your mouth while I am fucking you from behind right now...or imagine while you are riding me another man comes from behind and slides his cock in your ass and we alternate fucking your holes as you feel us rub against each other inside you. She gets off and cums like crazy and loves the fantasy talk. Now to the present. My wife has put on a couple of pounds having kids and over time. She is a red hot BBW and I think she is sexier now than ever! Unfortunately she does not feel the same about her body no matter what I say, and It is holding her back from going further with this fantasy. We have talked on the subject here and there. I felt that if it was to ever happen it should be with someone we didnt know. She felt it should be with a mutual friend we could trust, and I am ok with that too. I am positive she wants to really do it, and the trust is there with no fear of consequences. I can't shake the fantasy. I imagine another man is plowing her from behind when she is sucking me, or another man has his cock in her mouth as I fuck her nearly every time. I am afraid this may end up staying as a fantasy in my head. We both want it to happen, but she is still a bit self conscious. I haven't pushed it any further thus far. She loves for me to tie her down, blindfolded as I do all sorts of things to her. I have thought about setting up another person to come over as she is tied and blindfolded and see how she reacts. I shied away from it, do to the fear of breaking trust, even though I am 90% sure she would let it happen. What advice do you have? What steps can I take to make this fantasy a reality? I make her feel like the hottest woman in the universe, but she still has her own reserves. She wants it, so just need any suggestions to make it happen.

 

[NightL]

It is not going to happen - you have provided enough opportunities for her to say "That is a great idea I want to try that" but apparently she has not.

The actual thought of doing, which you have very carefully written out here in detail, is your fantasy - it is all about you - how you would get off seeing it - how you would get off controlling it (certainly comes across this way).

Just enjoy your relationship - push this too hard and she may start to no longer enjoy you verbalising it during sex.

There is not a lot of "we" in your post - but certainly a great amount of "I" and "me".

 

[NightL]

I appreciate that your writing out here of your very own fantasy got you a little frisky, but try for a paragraph or two in the future - makes for an easier read - but you know that.

 

[NightL]

I have thought about setting up another person to come over as she is tied and blindfolded and see how she reacts. I shied away from it, do to the fear of breaking trust, even though I am 90% sure she would let it happen...

Here is an idea - since it is of mmf that you are fantasising about (title of your thread) and not mfm - she could blindfold, gag and tie you up - then sneak a man in to have his way with you? Perhaps you could offer that up first - build up that level of trust and respect thing.

She wants it, so just need any suggestions to make it happen.

...clearly not - this is all about you and your last edit didn't help.

 

[Roleplay72]

The too many "I's" are apparent now. She actually wants to do it, just self conscious. We have had many discussions, mostly started by her after I initially broke the ice. She would want to drop 50 pounds before feeling comfortable with being with anyone else. This probably won't happen. I don't want it to happen because she is hot the way she is! I am not in to men at all so that scenario Woudnt work at all. I would be comfortable doing a dp or double vaginal, even having sex after someone has already came inside her...but that's a far as I go. Thank you and still would love to hear any other thoughts or suggestions, viewpoints based on experience or anything else that would help

 

[NightL]

Maybe you can get some ideas from here
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=52608138
right from the very first post

and some ideas of what not to do from
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=978702

 

[CBM514]

There is also a good chance the fantasy works very well for her, but the reality may not and forcing the issue won't work well for either of you...

 

[subwannabe]

I wouldn't do it without her approval ahead of time.

 

[amofiga]

If it's true that SHE really wants it and that you really aren't trying to push her beyond the fantasy and role play, then it may not be in the cards. You say that you've had sex together in front of other people and played a little with others yet then you say she is embarrassed about her body. I'm not sure how that adds up. Her reluctance is based not on how she appears, because if what you say is true, she's willing to do all sorts of things while people watch, she just doesn't want actual penetration by another man and doesn't want to see you actually penetrating another woman.

If you guys are serious, I'd try to opt for the "friend you could trust" rather than the stranger for a lot of reasons. However, you really do have to trust him and SHE has to trust him. Maybe try some petting and open play short of fucking with a guy you know and you both trust. If she gets used to the play, maybe jerking him off or letting him finger her or eat her, then maybe she'll go for more.

Good luck

 

[Roleplay72]

Great pics and stories!
And for the other comment, I agree I most definitely would not do anything without her approval. I thought more of bringing it up in the conversation if she happens to start a conversation about sharing again. This way I could test the waters. If she is gung ho, I would indeed bring another man to help out while she is blindfolded, etc. This may be a way around her being self conscious about her body. It may happen or never happen. It may be a starting point as to whether to move forward or give up on the idea. We still have dildos and such we can make use of to enact the fantasy in the mean time

 

[Roleplay72]

Amofiga, I'm sorry I needed to clarify the bit about playing with others and the audience and all. They all happened years earlier. She was not a BBW then and not at all self conscious. She would have been in to many of my male friends that wanted to fuck her, but it was a big NO for me back then. We got into a few situations with females, but when it got to that point she didnt want me to fuck them. We all played around a bit still though. As of now our Inhibitions are free, but she is shy about her weight

 

[NightL]

She wants it

...then show her this thread - ask her to join in the conversation here. Let her see what you have been writing.

See I am getting all sorts of confused here (actually not) - you are saying years ago when you could she said no then you said no and now when you want to you are saying she won't, which is really a no.

There is indeed a secret formula that seems to have alluded you in all this - communication. Communication with the right person, your wife. Not a bunch of strangers after you have written in detail of what only you want to orchestrate.

You did not say "We both really want this, we have been both discussing this in detail, we have decided the time is right, how do we go about making this happen for both of us?". It has all been about "I want, this is what I want to see, this is what I want done to her, I want to convince her, how do I make her change her mind". You even said you had contemplated bringing in someone, without her consent, while she is blindfolded and tied up (you did write that).

For everything you have written, the message is screaming out IT WON'T HAPPEN!

If she really "wants it", then after you have shown her this thread, ask her to organise the event. Perhaps she may want to try out a few contenders first without you being around? Maybe she has already been doing this?

 

[Roleplay72]

Yeesh! I got some good info from different posts to this, and I think alot has been taken a little out of context. Lets start over. I am new here and wanted to hear hopefully from some others with experience in doing a mmf for the first time. I am typing on my phone and my thoughts ramble a little, so sorry for all the "I"s. we have both discussed this more than a few times, just haven't gone through with it. My wife wishes I would have approach her years back when she had a banging body, and not being a BBW. The thought excited me about bringing another man in while she was blindfolded. A thought is all it was. I would NEVeR do that without her consent. A little further I said I would pose it to her if SHE brought up the conversation of a mmf. Being that she is shy about her body now, perhaps that may make it better for her. My question really is...if both parties are interested, but one may be shy about their appearance...what advice may you have to move things forward?

 

[Sheana_V]

There is a tremendous amount of social pressure on women about their bodies, and you can anticipate that 100% of them have insecurities about their bodies. This is a really big deal, and not something she's likely to be able to just 'get over'.

So, how much time have you spent just listening to her and her concerns about her body? Not trying to make her feel better; not trying to tell her how beautiful she is; not trying to make things 'okay'. Just listening and acknowledging that this is hard for her?

Once you have that. Once you have a shared understanding about what this really means for her, then tell her that this is what you really want, and ask her what the two of you can do together that can make this fantasy a reality.

Lastly, under no circumstances should you 'surprise' her with it.

 

[Roleplay72]

Well put Sheana v! Best info yet and much appreciated

 

[Sheana_V]

Well put Sheana v! Best info yet and much appreciated

<3 - Happy to oblige. Let us know if it works out for you.

 

[subwannabe]

I really don't know where women get all this crap about the social pressure on their bodies. I think they kind of just make it up in their own heads because men aren't responsible for it. Unless someone is truly obnoxiously fat we men don't care. We want to fuck everyone and the last thing we want is for every woman to look the same. We like to see a variety. Most men actually prefer women who are not size zero.

The only social pressure I really see is actresses and others in the entertainment industry (including models) really do have to watch themselves but the average Jane doesn't have to worry about not getting roles, etc. because they gained 20 pounds.

Women often compare themselves to magazine covers but most of us men know that these are photoshopped and we ourselves don't expect the women we come in contact with to measure up to these photoshopped magazine covers. It's a phalacy that isn't even true and women just put way too much importance in something that the average man could care less about. There's probably more male members on this site than female and look at how many pages there are to the picture threads showing mature or BBW women. We like it all.

 

[NightL]

I really don't know where women get all this crap about the social pressure on their bodies. I think they kind of just make it up in their own heads because men aren't responsible for it.

Oh Oh Oh, Ya What!!! - How about every bit of media on this planet - and predominately what gender is responsible for the content????

Damn - I cannot believe I just read that subwannabe!!!

 

[Ilovemymilf]

I have been happily married for 13 years and our sex life is freaking fabulous! I am 41 and she is 33. We have been a bit adventurous over the years in having sex in open public settings, in front of an audience, with 3 other females early on (although I was stopped short of being with them due to her slight jealousy factor in those moments, but no big deal because she had her fun and I enjoyed watching). As of lately my sex drive has dramatically increased. Weird, but we are both loving it. We have been having all nighters nearly every week, experimenting in bondage, role play and most recently costume play. Several months ago I discovered Literotica and I could not get enough! I still enjoy visual porn, but the stories really got me going! Before long I wrote my own personal fantasy stories and left them for my wife to read. I saved one for last which involved sharing her with other men because I really wasn't sure how she would react to it. It was a 5 man on her scenario. Me in her mouth, one in each hand, and one in each hole and so on. She was turned on and we had stellar sex. I shared that I loved her and completely trusted her, and was game to really trying it someday. Either a 2 on one or even more situation. I just wanted to see her pleasured beyond belief, in complete and utter ecstasy as I looked in her eyes while she took another man (or men). I didnt want to push it too much but have periodically mentioned things on a few occasions while we had sex. Things like, I wish there was a big cock in your mouth while I am fucking you from behind right now...or imagine while you are riding me another man comes from behind and slides his cock in your ass and we alternate fucking your holes as you feel us rub against each other inside you. She gets off and cums like crazy and loves the fantasy talk. Now to the present. My wife has put on a couple of pounds having kids and over time. She is a red hot BBW and I think she is sexier now than ever! Unfortunately she does not feel the same about her body no matter what I say, and It is holding her back from going further with this fantasy. We have talked on the subject here and there. I felt that if it was to ever happen it should be with someone we didnt know. She felt it should be with a mutual friend we could trust, and I am ok with that too. I am positive she wants to really do it, and the trust is there with no fear of consequences. I can't shake the fantasy. I imagine another man is plowing her from behind when she is sucking me, or another man has his cock in her mouth as I fuck her nearly every time. I am afraid this may end up staying as a fantasy in my head. We both want it to happen, but she is still a bit self conscious. I haven't pushed it any further thus far. She loves for me to tie her down, blindfolded as I do all sorts of things to her. I have thought about setting up another person to come over as she is tied and blindfolded and see how she reacts. I shied away from it, do to the fear of breaking trust, even though I am 90% sure she would let it happen. What advice do you have? What steps can I take to make this fantasy a reality? I make her feel like the hottest woman in the universe, but she still has her own reserves. She wants it, so just need any suggestions to make it happen.

Let me know if you figure this out, my wife fantasizes about it and I want it to happen so bad but she is too conservative to let it happen

 

[CBM514]

I really don't know where women get all this crap about the social pressure on their bodies. I think they kind of just make it up in their own heads because men aren't responsible for it. Unless someone is truly obnoxiously fat we men don't care. We want to fuck everyone and the last thing we want is for every woman to look the same. We like to see a variety. Most men actually prefer women who are not size zero.

The only social pressure I really see is actresses and others in the entertainment industry (including models) really do have to watch themselves but the average Jane doesn't have to worry about not getting roles, etc. because they gained 20 pounds.

Women often compare themselves to magazine covers but most of us men know that these are photoshopped and we ourselves don't expect the women we come in contact with to measure up to these photoshopped magazine covers. It's a phalacy that isn't even true and women just put way too much importance in something that the average man could care less about. There's probably more male members on this site than female and look at how many pages there are to the picture threads showing mature or BBW women. We like it all.

I would suggest more accurately that women compare them selves to other women frequently (as well as their perception of how other men view them) and are inherently overly self critical...so in a sexual situation there is a good chance those feelings of insecurity would be magnified...

 

[NightL]

I really don't know where women get all this crap about the social pressure on their bodies. I think they kind of just make it up in their own heads because men aren't responsible for it.

Damn if this is a troll comment then I have taken the bait well and truly

Cop this subwannabe
http://youtu.be/Ei6JvK0W60I

 

[subwannabe]

I still stand by what I say because I am a real guy who has been in close contact with other real guys for over 50 years now. While we may look at magazines, media, etc. not one other male that I know of expects any woman to measure up to a photoshopped model. In fact, we like seeing and fucking all kinds of women. Variety is the spice of life. If all women's bodies were exactly the same it would be a very boring world indeed. This is something that women put in their own heads and the real John Does actually pay the price for it (as the guy in this thread can attest to). Women should quit listening to the heads of magazines and other media and start listening to the real John Does out there. And, obviously with over 2,000 posts, I am not a troll.

 

[Roleplay72]

Let me know if you figure this out, my wife fantasizes about it and I want it to happen so bad but she is too conservative to let it happen

Likewise my friend! It was me early on in out marriage who was the conservative one and I am kicking myself now. She is super adventurous, yet reserved about how others see her physically. I have shared the BBW porn I enjoy and she is coming around to the idea that a lot of men are attracted to BBWs

 

[NightL]

There is a tremendous amount of social pressure on women about their bodies.

...now watch that video

think about it - think about it

Why are you writing as if you need to be defensive on this subject subwannabe? Are your magazines in anyway perpetrating the issue highlighted in the video?

think about it - think about it

Another question - what makes a "real guy"? Maybe your close contact with other "real guys" has diminished your ability to understand what women believe "real guys" can be? What is more important to you, assuming you are indeed heterosexual, pleasing your "real guys" that you hang with or being a real man to your partner? What is more important to you? If impressing the "real guys" is your kick - maybe you should re-evaluate your sexuality. You know - the us "real guys" and all...

think about it - think about it

now go watch the video
http://youtu.be/Ei6JvK0W60I

 

[NightL]

Ok - thread drift - really - it is just not the done thing for "real guys" to talk openly about issues that impact upon women is it now? Or has consideration of women been the essence of this thread?