Idea for Indian cuckoldry

[tapeworm]

I have an idea which features this expat Indian couple from India who travel to the States to work for an American employer. This employer has a horny young 18 year old son who wants to have sex with the Indian wife. When layoffs begin, desperate to avoid having to return to Calcutta, the husband, at the urging of both the employer and his wife, reluctantly agrees to let his wife become the sexual slave of the entire family of his employer. Any thoughts? I'd love to hear them.

 

[Carnevil9]

The phrase "Black Hole of Calcutta" keeps ringing in my head......

 

[tapeworm]

The phrase "Black Hole of Calcutta" keeps ringing in my head......

lol, I guess that needs to feature somewhere in the story. There's just so much sexual innuendo to it.

 

[Grimfalcon]

Not a bad idea for a story, but a few theings that threw me off about it. My step-mother is from India, and for the most part the ones I've met, or heard tell about, are very well educated and hold well paying jobs tech and medical jobs; not things that are going to go under very easily. Not trying to stereotype, just making an observation from personal experience.

I've met a lot of them in foreign airline buisness as stewardess' though, but the ones commonly portrayed as 'lower class,' my expereince again, are from Pakistani or from Sir Lanka.
You see a lot of these types as workers in the Middle East.

I think it would be a nice fantasy, but there again, the Indian's are a proud, and industrious people, and I don't see some Indian guy whoring out his wife to keep his job; they'd pack up and go back home first. If he's white, maybe it would be a bit more believable on my end. Just my two cents worth...

 

[tapeworm]

Not a bad idea for a story, but a few theings that threw me off about it. My step-mother is from India, and for the most part the ones I've met, or heard tell about, are very well educated and hold well paying jobs tech and medical jobs; not things that are going to go under very easily. Not trying to stereotype, just making an observation from personal experience.

I've met a lot of them in foreign airline buisness as stewardess' though, but the ones commonly portrayed as 'lower class,' my expereince again, are from Pakistani or from Sir Lanka.
You see a lot of these types as workers in the Middle East.

I think it would be a nice fantasy, but there again, the Indian's are a proud, and industrious people, and I don't see some Indian guy whoring out his wife to keep his job; they'd pack up and go back home first. If he's white, maybe it would be a bit more believable on my end. Just my two cents worth...

You raise pertinent points. Perhaps the couple could be menial workers then who were hired as janitors? Maybe the story should be moved to Australia where you often find Indians employed in more menial postions? Also, regarding the excellent point you raised about the mentality of most Indian husbands, maybe I could write the story in such a way that the husband is blackmailed or cajoled into surrendering his wife? Once again, I would love to hear your thoughts.

 

[tapeworm]

Not a bad idea for a story, but a few theings that threw me off about it. My step-mother is from India, and for the most part the ones I've met, or heard tell about, are very well educated and hold well paying jobs tech and medical jobs; not things that are going to go under very easily. Not trying to stereotype, just making an observation from personal experience.

I've met a lot of them in foreign airline buisness as stewardess' though, but the ones commonly portrayed as 'lower class,' my expereince again, are from Pakistani or from Sir Lanka.
You see a lot of these types as workers in the Middle East.

I think it would be a nice fantasy, but there again, the Indian's are a proud, and industrious people, and I don't see some Indian guy whoring out his wife to keep his job; they'd pack up and go back home first. If he's white, maybe it would be a bit more believable on my end. Just my two cents worth...

Or should I reverse the story with the white guy being a cuckold instead?

 

[Grimfalcon]

You raise pertinent points. Perhaps the couple could be menial workers then who were hired as janitors? Maybe the story should be moved to Australia where you often find Indians employed in more menial postions? Also, regarding the excellent point you raised about the mentality of most Indian husbands, maybe I could write the story in such a way that the husband is blackmailed or cajoled into surrendering his wife? Once again, I would love to hear your thoughts.

They may be valid in a very broad and general sense, but don't let it put you off from writting what you want. I've been to Bombay and traveled the about some, and India in general is a relatively poor country. Most of those people couldn’t afford to leave anyway, but if the did it would be for labor positions in the Middle East. As far as Australia goes, I can’t say. Some migrated to Germany and Europe as well; my aunt is married to a German, eventually gained her citizenship, and has lived there for something like 20 years now.

Just with in any other nationality, if you have a viable skill or trade, you can hire on with an international firm and go pretty much anywhere. Those were most of the Indians I encountered overseas, middle management or specialized trades. As far as in the States, like I said, they had money to get here in the first place and are usually very well off. Some come here for the schooling on special visas too.

If I were writing something like this, and wanted to stick with an Indian woman as the centerpiece, I’d make her husband white. Maybe she was a stewardess like I mentioned before, or she came to the States for school and met her husband here. Seems like a good start point for the story to me at least.

 

[tapeworm]

They may be valid in a very broad and general sense, but don't let it put you off from writting what you want. I've been to Bombay and traveled the about some, and India in general is a relatively poor country. Most of those people couldn’t afford to leave anyway, but if the did it would be for labor positions in the Middle East. As far as Australia goes, I can’t say. Some migrated to Germany and Europe as well; my aunt is married to a German, eventually gained her citizenship, and has lived there for something like 20 years now.

Just with in any other nationality, if you have a viable skill or trade, you can hire on with an international firm and go pretty much anywhere. Those were most of the Indians I encountered overseas, middle management or specialized trades. As far as in the States, like I said, they had money to get here in the first place and are usually very well off. Some come here for the schooling on special visas too.

If I were writing something like this, and wanted to stick with an Indian woman as the centerpiece, I’d make her husband white. Maybe she was a stewardess like I mentioned before, or she came to the States for school and met her husband here. Seems like a good start point for the story to me at least.

Again, excellent points. If I wanted to keep both the wife and husband Indian, would it be plausible if I were to write the story in such a way that they were living in the Middle East, working in menial positions for a wealthy white expat family? Do you think that would be more feasible? Once again, thanks for your feedback.

 

[Grimfalcon]

Again, excellent points. If I wanted to keep both the wife and husband Indian, would it be plausible if I were to write the story in such a way that they were living in the Middle East, working in menial positions for a wealthy white expat family? Do you think that would be more feasible? Once again, thanks for your feedback.

That would be more realsitic IMO. Her husband works for a Saudi prince, (Everyone over there is a prince or royalty it seems like ) and he could blackmail the husband (rules are a lot different over there; they could have him kicked out the country or revoke his work visa if he doesn't comply. The term, 'I don't think we're in Kansas any more, Toto,' applies in countries like that.' Lets just say people in general, especially low income foreigners, don't have the same rights as in the States). Or they could work for a western family, she as a maid and he as a gardner for example like you mentioned above.
Another thing to keep in mind, is most of the people that work over seas like that, unless they are in a postion of importance, or westerner, arne't allowed to bring their family or wives along. General laborer types, very unlikely without a good reason. There is a sever lack of women in general in places like that among the 'working class.' Lots of homosexuality.

Not to change the subject, but as an example of how rights are different for foreigners in a country like Saudi Arabia, this Philipino guy that worked for the same comapnay as my dad did, was caught embezzling money. They threw in a dank 6X6 cell for nearly a week, no shower, no rights, no lawyer, nothing. He was guilty, period. My old man finally went to go check on this guy just to be nice, and brought him a toothbrush and some crap like that. I think he was deported a week later.

 

[tapeworm]

That would be more realsitic IMO. Her husband works for a Saudi prince, (Everyone over there is a prince or royalty it seems like ) and he could blackmail the husband (rules are a lot different over there; they could have him kicked out the country or revoke his work visa if he doesn't comply. The term, 'I don't think we're in Kansas any more, Toto,' applies in countries like that.' Lets just say people in general, especially low income foreigners, don't have the same rights as in the States). Or they could work for a western family, she as a maid and he as a gardner for example like you mentioned above.
Another thing to keep in mind, is most of the people that work over seas like that, unless they are in a postion of importance, or westerner, arne't allowed to bring their family or wives along. General laborer types, very unlikely without a good reason. There is a sever lack of women in general in places like that among the 'working class.' Lots of homosexuality.

Not to change the subject, but as an example of how rights are different for foreigners in a country like Saudi Arabia, this Philipino guy that worked for the same comapnay as my dad did, was caught embezzling money. They threw in a dank 6X6 cell for nearly a week, no shower, no rights, no lawyer, nothing. He was guilty, period. My old man finally went to go check on this guy just to be nice, and brought him a toothbrush and some crap like that. I think he was deported a week later.

.Thanks for the rather enlightening insight into the arbitrary nature of the Saudi legal system. Yes, it will provide an excellent backdrop for the story. As regards the unwillingness of the Saudi legal authorities to permit working-class immigrants to bring their wives with them, it is possible to get past this obstacle by writing the story in such a way that the wealthy white expat family hires both the husband and wife to be their gardener and maid respectively as you suggested? Also, is possible that the expat employer would be able to have his hired help thrown into prison by threatening to falsely accuse them of theft?

Once again thanks a lot for the feedback

 

[indianman75]

I have an idea which features this expat Indian couple from India who travel to the States to work for an American employer. This employer has a horny young 18 year old son who wants to have sex with the Indian wife. When layoffs begin, desperate to avoid having to return to Calcutta, the husband, at the urging of both the employer and his wife, reluctantly agrees to let his wife become the sexual slave of the entire family of his employer. Any thoughts? I'd love to hear them.

Would be interested in this Am an Indian husband with a wife who would be perfect as the central character of this fantasy.

 

[tapeworm]

Would be interested in this Am an Indian husband with a wife who would be perfect as the central character of this fantasy.

Can I take it that both you and your wife are into the whole cuckold fetish?

 

[Grimfalcon]

.Thanks for the rather enlightening insight into the arbitrary nature of the Saudi legal system. Yes, it will provide an excellent backdrop for the story. As regards the unwillingness of the Saudi legal authorities to permit working-class immigrants to bring their wives with them, it is possible to get past this obstacle by writing the story in such a way that the wealthy white expat family hires both the husband and wife to be their gardener and maid respectively as you suggested? Also, is possible that the expat employer would be able to have his hired help thrown into prison by threatening to falsely accuse them of theft?

Once again thanks a lot for the feedback

You’re welcome, and no problem. Hope this info gets you going in the right direction for your story.

Let me give you a simplified example of the food chain to the best of my memory in a Saudi owned company (Bear in mind, I was over there nearly twenty years ago so things may have changed).

Company presidents and CEOs- Saudi, usually some form of royalty
Upper management, vice presidents, ect- Westerners (family members permitted, housing supplied, cars, good benefits and pay, ect.)

Mid and low level managers- Indian, other Middle Eastern nationalities, some Westerners. (Family members permitted) Country of origin not really that important; based of education like in any job field.


Laborers, lower income- Filipino, third world countries, Pakistani, Indian, whoever... Contract employees and no family members. (Not trying to group any specific ethnic group or race into a lower category, but that’s how is seemed to play out from my memory).

Remember this is a broad generalization and exceptions always apply.
Is it possible for an expat to hire their own help? I don't see why not if the employer authorizes a work visa and it’s part of his contract as upper management. It's you're story so nothing is set in stone and there’s nothing saying that it couldn't happen.
As for this individual blackmailing his help? If he went to the authorities, or his employer, and this person was in high standing and said his 'hired help' stole from him, chances are they are going to believe the expat over a lower class laborer. In my opinion it would work in this case. The accused is guilty until proven innocent over there if I remember correctly.

There are American and Western run and owned companies over there as well; oil, chemical, DoD. You’re best chance for a story you’re looking for though, would be a Saudi owned company IMO.

 

[tapeworm]

You’re welcome, and no problem. Hope this info gets you going in the right direction for your story.

Let me give you a simplified example of the food chain to the best of my memory in a Saudi owned company (Bear in mind, I was over there nearly twenty years ago so things may have changed).

Company presidents and CEOs- Saudi, usually some form of royalty
Upper management, vice presidents, ect- Westerners (family members permitted, housing supplied, cars, good benefits and pay, ect.)

Mid and low level managers- Indian, other Middle Eastern nationalities, some Westerners. (Family members permitted) Country of origin not really that important; based of education like in any job field.


Laborers, lower income- Filipino, third world countries, Pakistani, Indian, whoever... Contract employees and no family members. (Not trying to group any specific ethnic group or race into a lower category, but that’s how is seemed to play out from my memory).

Remember this is a broad generalization and exceptions always apply.
Is it possible for an expat to hire their own help? I don't see why not if the employer authorizes a work visa and it’s part of his contract as upper management. It's you're story so nothing is set in stone and there’s nothing saying that it couldn't happen.
As for this individual blackmailing his help? If he went to the authorities, or his employer, and this person was in high standing and said his 'hired help' stole from him, chances are they are going to believe the expat over a lower class laborer. In my opinion it would work in this case. The accused is guilty until proven innocent over there if I remember correctly.

There are American and Western run and owned companies over there as well; oil, chemical, DoD. You’re best chance for a story you’re looking for though, would be a Saudi owned company IMO.

Now that is certainly some very useful informaation! Once again, thanks a lot! By the way, is it possible that the expat will know certain details about his help prior to ther arrival?

 

[Grimfalcon]

Now that is certainly some very useful informaation! Once again, thanks a lot! By the way, is it possible that the expat will know certain details about his help prior to ther arrival?

That, I can't answer, but...
Hypothetical situation- I suppose it's possible that they could know of them through another person? Say a friend of theirs already has this man and woman's sister (any relative) already working for them and refers them to said expat? With a little networking they could find out whatever they want about the couple I guess.
Expats overseas in countries like that area pretty tight-knot community. Most of the time they actually live on compounds, kind of like a walled mini neighborhood. You make a lot of connections and if have the right ones, you might even attend Embassy parties, be able to attain pork and alcohol or other things not normally accessible in a strict Muslim country like that.

 

[tapeworm]

That, I can't answer, but...
Hypothetical situation- I suppose it's possible that they could know of them through another person? Say a friend of theirs already has this man and woman's sister (any relative) already working for them and refers them to said expat? With a little networking they could find out whatever they want about the couple I guess.
Expats overseas in countries like that area pretty tight-knot community. Most of the time they actually live on compounds, kind of like a walled mini neighborhood. You make a lot of connections and if have the right ones, you might even attend Embassy parties, be able to attain pork and alcohol or other things not normally accessible in a strict Muslim country like that.

Once again, thanks a lot for your insight. Another alternative I have been considering is to set the story in India by having the white expat family posted there. Do you think that would be more feasible?

 

[nisha_in61]

Once again, thanks a lot for your insight. Another alternative I have been considering is to set the story in India by having the white expat family posted there. Do you think that would be more feasible?

Kinky thoughts...

I like it more when boss and wife fall into an affair and husband is helpless.
Doesn't needs to be an affair. But yes she enjoys to be the sex slave of husband's boss, which happened slolwy.

 

[Kim_vegas]

First of all, this story involves a wealthy and powerful character who is the resident of a developed country and an Indian couple who, either one or both, work for him. IMO, to blackmail that Indian husband, the plot requires the blackmailer to be in a situation where he can control something the Indian couple cannot afford to lose. Say, the Indian hubby's business failed or was stolen by his devilish uncle or maybe the area where once his family reigned a cloth empire was hit by an earthquake, demolishing his factories (although they would be wise enough to have an insurance, but claiming that money takes time especially in a developing country like India that suffers from "red tape" syndrome). The loss of factories and an inability to complete the orders overseas .. ruined their family business empire. Now their family back home survives on the income the Indian couple makes. Or maybe the hubby is there looking for new contacts and new orders and this rich white guy owns a company that can help this Indian fellow not only re-establish his lost empire but expand it more than it ever was .. and he is willing to do so .. but everything comes at a price! Will this Indian hubby let his wife "work" for the very new position created by this white guy at his home or will he stick with his pride and see his family empire falling part by part or will he let his wife be "pleasure doll" of this white guy for sometime till everything gets back on the right track. Anyway, he's away from his mainland and if he and his wife keeps mum about it, who will ever know ?


according to this plot, you don't need to go to Saudi or Australia .. hope this saves your traveling costs for 3 characters and the living expenses as well ..


Just my two cents ....

~Kimmy!

 

[Grimfalcon]

First of all, this story involves a wealthy and powerful character who is the resident of a developed country and an Indian couple who, either one or both, work for him. IMO, to blackmail that Indian husband, the plot requires the blackmailer to be in a situation where he can control something the Indian couple cannot afford to lose. Say, the Indian hubby's business failed or was stolen by his devilish uncle or maybe the area where once his family reigned a cloth empire was hit by an earthquake, demolishing his factories (although they would be wise enough to have an insurance, but claiming that money takes time especially in a developing country like India that suffers from "red tape" syndrome). The loss of factories and an inability to complete the orders overseas .. ruined their family business empire. Now their family back home survives on the income the Indian couple makes. Or maybe the hubby is there looking for new contacts and new orders and this rich white guy owns a company that can help this Indian fellow not only re-establish his lost empire but expand it more than it ever was .. and he is willing to do so .. but everything comes at a price! Will this Indian hubby let his wife "work" for the very new position created by this white guy at his home or will he stick with his pride and see his family empire falling part by part or will he let his wife be "pleasure doll" of this white guy for sometime till everything gets back on the right track. Anyway, he's away from his mainland and if he and his wife keeps mum about it, who will ever know ?


according to this plot, you don't need to go to Saudi or Australia .. hope this saves your traveling costs for 3 characters and the living expenses as well ..


Just my two cents ....

~Kimmy!

Not a bad idea either, they all work, but the reason for working overseas was an additional element of helplesness that the OP was looking for from my standpoint of the story. The only reason I brought up SA, is that I lived there for numerous years and felt the situation fit the story line.

As for traveling expense, that is payed by the company, hence another form of control, and living expense is actually cheaper. If I remember correctly even the working class were given trailers to live in.
A person, especially lower income, can't just up and leave when they like. There is a distinct hierarchy and social class division in a country like that.

 

[Kim_vegas]

Not a bad idea either, they all work, but the reason for working overseas was an additional element of helplesness that the OP was looking for from my standpoint of the story. The only reason I brought up SA, is that I lived there for numerous years and felt the situation fit the story line.

As for traveling expense, that is payed by the company, hence another form of control, and living expense is actually cheaper. If I remember correctly even the working class were given trailers to live in.
A person, especially lower income, can't just up and leave when they like. There is a distinct hierarchy and social class division in a country like that.

The last line I wrote was a joke that just meant that you dont need to take your characters to other countries but the plot can be setup right in your native country!

 

[tapeworm]

Kinky thoughts...

I like it more when boss and wife fall into an affair and husband is helpless.
Doesn't needs to be an affair. But yes she enjoys to be the sex slave of husband's boss, which happened slolwy.

Yep, that will definitely be an element of blackmail. But as you siad, the Indian wife ultimately enjoys being the sex slave of both hubby's boss and his son.

 

[tapeworm]

First of all, this story involves a wealthy and powerful character who is the resident of a developed country and an Indian couple who, either one or both, work for him. IMO, to blackmail that Indian husband, the plot requires the blackmailer to be in a situation where he can control something the Indian couple cannot afford to lose. Say, the Indian hubby's business failed or was stolen by his devilish uncle or maybe the area where once his family reigned a cloth empire was hit by an earthquake, demolishing his factories (although they would be wise enough to have an insurance, but claiming that money takes time especially in a developing country like India that suffers from "red tape" syndrome). The loss of factories and an inability to complete the orders overseas .. ruined their family business empire. Now their family back home survives on the income the Indian couple makes. Or maybe the hubby is there looking for new contacts and new orders and this rich white guy owns a company that can help this Indian fellow not only re-establish his lost empire but expand it more than it ever was .. and he is willing to do so .. but everything comes at a price! Will this Indian hubby let his wife "work" for the very new position created by this white guy at his home or will he stick with his pride and see his family empire falling part by part or will he let his wife be "pleasure doll" of this white guy for sometime till everything gets back on the right track. Anyway, he's away from his mainland and if he and his wife keeps mum about it, who will ever know ?


according to this plot, you don't need to go to Saudi or Australia .. hope this saves your traveling costs for 3 characters and the living expenses as well ..


Just my two cents ....

~Kimmy!

I actually like your idea a lot. This way, the Indian husband's humiliation would be even greater because a man who was once a powerful business magnate in his own right, is now living in the States as the helpless dependent of an arrogant American tycoon. And as you said, their shameful secret would be known only to them. But on the other hand, I do like the fact that if they were to live in S.A as the hired menials of a white expat family, their state of subjugation would be more complete. Maybe I can fuse the two ideas together..

 

[Grimfalcon]

I actually like your idea a lot. This way, the Indian husband's humiliation would be even greater because a man who was once a powerful business magnate in his own right, is now living in the States as the helpless dependent of an arrogant American tycoon. And as you said, their shameful secret would be known only to them. But on the other hand, I do like the fact that if they were to live in S.A as the hired menials of a white expat family, their state of subjugation would be more complete. Maybe I can fuse the two ideas together..

Living in the States as a helpless dependent of a wealthy white guy, is kind of an oxymoron in this day and age if writing this as a true blackmail/ coercion story. I like to write with a ‘realistic’ view of fantasy when I can, and look for all the loopholes in a plot when possible. With the way our society is today, all it would take is one nosy do-gooder seeing what’s going on or even hearing about it, and the cops, INS and the entire world be called in to bust up this rich guy’s happy fantasy, even if the husband and wife willingly went along with it at some point. (I’m trying to play the devil’s advocate here and look for reasons it wouldn’t work, so bear with me.)
He just spent a fortune flying this couple over, paying for their work or visitor’s visa, and would risk his livelihood and fortune over a piece of ass? The whole ‘Indecent proposal’ scenario would work better in a situation like that IMO, not blackmail. He would literally have to keep them as chained slaves in the middle of nowhere, isolated from everyone for it to work the way I see it. Even then, they’re not forgotten; INS would eventually follow up after their Visas ran out and his name is on the paperwork.
From a realistic standpoint (There I go using that nasty word again) doing this in a country where they have no family or friends, (Such as their home country) and no rights to speak of, (such as S.A.) would make things much more believable. It would give our guy complete and total control; they would be helpless to obey and humiliated in whatever way you want. If it’s a simple blackmail scenario, letting his kid use the wife, whoring her out to friends or whatever, chances are he could get away with it much easier and could talk his way out of any problems if he has the contacts to do it.

There has been a lot of good ideas thrown out there, but I guess it’s really up to you at this point to decide if you want to make this a hardcore blackmail/ capture story, or a simply cuck theme based on reluctance at first, that both the wife and husband get off on at some point.

 

[indianman75]

I actually like your idea a lot. This way, the Indian husband's humiliation would be even greater because a man who was once a powerful business magnate in his own right, is now living in the States as the helpless dependent of an arrogant American tycoon. And as you said, their shameful secret would be known only to them. But on the other hand, I do like the fact that if they were to live in S.A as the hired menials of a white expat family, their state of subjugation would be more complete. Maybe I can fuse the two ideas together..

Yep agree. Lovely idea. Would be eager to follow your fusing of these ideas.

 

[tapeworm]

Living in the States as a helpless dependent of a wealthy white guy, is kind of an oxymoron in this day and age if writing this as a true blackmail/ coercion story. I like to write with a ‘realistic’ view of fantasy when I can, and look for all the loopholes in a plot when possible. With the way our society is today, all it would take is one nosy do-gooder seeing what’s going on or even hearing about it, and the cops, INS and the entire world be called in to bust up this rich guy’s happy fantasy, even if the husband and wife willingly went along with it at some point. (I’m trying to play the devil’s advocate here and look for reasons it wouldn’t work, so bear with me.)
He just spent a fortune flying this couple over, paying for their work or visitor’s visa, and would risk his livelihood and fortune over a piece of ass? The whole ‘Indecent proposal’ scenario would work better in a situation like that IMO, not blackmail. He would literally have to keep them as chained slaves in the middle of nowhere, isolated from everyone for it to work the way I see it. Even then, they’re not forgotten; INS would eventually follow up after their Visas ran out and his name is on the paperwork.
From a realistic standpoint (There I go using that nasty word again) doing this in a country where they have no family or friends, (Such as their home country) and no rights to speak of, (such as S.A.) would make things much more believable. It would give our guy complete and total control; they would be helpless to obey and humiliated in whatever way you want. If it’s a simple blackmail scenario, letting his kid use the wife, whoring her out to friends or whatever, chances are he could get away with it much easier and could talk his way out of any problems if he has the contacts to do it.

There has been a lot of good ideas thrown out there, but I guess it’s really up to you at this point to decide if you want to make this a hardcore blackmail/ capture story, or a simply cuck theme based on reluctance at first, that both the wife and husband get off on at some point.

Grimfalcon, what you say makes a lot of sense. I think I'll just stick to the original idea and have the Indian couple be a pair of hired menials recruited by a wealthy expat family in S.A.