I wonder how many talented Black singers

[WriterDom]

were lost in the last generation to this rap crap. I mean seriously, how many Bill Withers, or Otis Reddings, or Lionel Richies, or Ray Charles were pushed aside in the name of the Almighty God - Money, in favor of some deviant shouting rhymes and spinning records backwards.

 

[Guest]

Not all rap is bad...

 

[OUTSIDER]

Not all rap is bad...

No but the vast majority is

 

[Guest]

No but the vast majority is

'Tis your opinion. There are many rap songs out there I like.

 

[OUTSIDER]

I have to say that there are a few rap song's I like but they are rare indeed and I've found most rap song's deal only with issuses like "look at all that pussy" or "look at all the money I have" or "I'm gonna kill you", for the most part rap is music without a soul just as burger's are food without a soul, to rap stars it's just about the money.

 

[Guest]

...to rap stars it's just about the money.

To many people out there in ALL walks of it, "it is just about the money".

 

[TigerClaw]

.....

 

[Mischka]

were lost in the last generation to this rap crap. I mean seriously, how many Bill Withers, or Otis Reddings, or Lionel Richies, or Ray Charles were pushed aside in the name of the Almighty God - Money, in favor of some deviant shouting rhymes and spinning records backwards.

I'm not a fan of rap, but this same sentiment was voiced when rock n' roll displaced big bands, etc. Rap is already starting to diversify, and I expect in another decade we will be left with only the best examples from that genre as we move on to the next form of musical expression.

 

[Ambrosious]

Next Form Of Musical Expression

Latino rap?

Kill Gringo!

Puta!

Dinero!

 

[Laurel]

There's nothing more entertaining than a thread full of people talking about something they know nothing about.

"Yeah, I hear there's rap songs about the ritual sacrifice of children. And all they talk about is drugs and shooting. And raping women."

lol

"THE BEATLES, for example, need only mass hypnotize thousands of American youth, condition their emotions through the beat of this 'music' and then have someone give the word for riot and revolt...If the following scientific program is not exposed, degenerated Americans will indeed raise the Communist flag over their own nation".

- David Noebel, 1967

 

[Renegade]

Re: Next Form Of Musical Expression

Latino rap?

Kill Gringo!

Puta!

Dinero!

Damn. Now that I've read those lyrics, I want to.... like, go out and kill white people. Damn music has warped my innocent little mind!

 

[OUTSIDER]

There's nothing more entertaining than a thread full of people talking about something they know nothing about.

"Yeah, I hear there's rap songs about the ritual sacrifice of children. And all they talk about is drugs and shooting. And raping women."

lol

I based my answer's on personal observation's and not on what other's have said, this how I feel about rap music and just cause I don't like it doesn't mean I want it banned I just feel it's a shame that this is what passes for music to some people.

 

[TigerClaw]

.....

 

[WriterDom]

country rap

the next form of musical expression.

country rap.

It's the pits
eaten cold grits
dripping tears
into my beers

My baby took my dog
left me in a fog
everbody say "Hooooowwwwwdy"

damn red clay
in my jeans to stay
Dishes piling
IRS is filing

My baby took my dog
left me in a fog
everbody say "Hooooowwwwwdy"

My truck don't run
liberals want my gun
little brother in jail
ain't got no bail

My baby took my dog
left me in a fog
everbody say "Hooooowwwwwdy"

 

[Andra_Jenny]

I spent yesterday listening to

Billie Holiday, someone who has stood the test of time.

How badly and with how much alarm was Buffalo Springfield, Led Zepplin, not to mention Hendricks viewed by the middle-class. And it is the same with Rap. It is supposed to offend me and it does. Hell I knew I was over the hill when I did not "get" Nirvana.

Having said that, will Will Smith, Tone Loc (sp?), and a few others, like maybe Hammer, I do not know, hell I think the Chili Peppers are rap and I love them, but will some of them too stand the test of time? I mean look at these words now, think of the emotion that we all feel now as part of the middle class,

"There's something happening here,
what it is ain't exactly clear,
there's a man with a gun over there,
A tellin' me, I've got to beware..."

 

[Blackbich]

Re: Re: Next Form Of Musical Expression

Damn. Now that I've read those lyrics, I want to.... like, go out and kill white people. Damn music has warped my innocent little mind!

Originally posted by WriterDom

country rap.

It's the pits
eaten cold grits
dripping tears
into my beers

My baby took my dog
left me in a fog
everbody say "Hooooowwwwwdy"

damn red clay
in my jeans to stay
Dishes piling
IRS is filing

My baby took my dog
left me in a fog
everbody say "Hooooowwwwwdy"

My truck don't run
liberals want my gun
little brother in jail
ain't got no bail

My baby took my dog
left me in a fog
everbody say "Hooooowwwwwdy"

LMFAO!!!


I have to agree with Tiggs and Laurel on this one. Yes, there's a lot of 'bad' rap out there but there's 'good' rap out there as well. There's rock songs out there that's depicting the same messages as 'bad' rap. Free speech covers those idiots who have decided this allows them to say whatever they want. On the other hand, to condemn an entire genre of music because of the 'bad' elements would be assinine. If you don't want to hear it, don't buy it.

 

[Andra_Jenny]

I can't believe I am doing this...

but I just had to turn on the computer because some of this thread will not leave my mind until I have exorsized the deamons and answered the fawking question, but still may not,

Who can drown out Whitney Houston?

How many important things were going on in Redding's time, but still, when I had the TV on and the show was about the greatest rock'n'roll artists of all time and he gets his due,

I think the statement is more important than the individual, my words are failing me, but truly great artists, oh, yeah I meanrt to talk about Prince, one of my idols, but, my wiskey calls, so no great voices are getting drowned out by the great message. Is that it any way coherent?

Bye now! Loved the thread, oh yeah and country blended with rap only gives crap!

 

[Weird Harold]

Reminds me of an old echo heard in a cave...

...in favor of some deviant shouting rhymes ...

OG: Damn cubs are ruining music.

UG: Too right mate, they're actually putting words to the old chant rythms and singing

OG: It's hopeless, music is dead.

UG: Right-o, then. Let's go invent fire to console ourselves.

(or something like that. )

 

[Ambrosious]

There's nothing more entertaining than a thread full of people talking about something they know nothing about.


lol

The thing I find hard to believe is that a woman who respects the language and tries to ensure that what she writes and reads is coherent, thoughtful, and grammatically correct can defend the ONE class of society bound and determined to ruin the English language.

Does ANYONE understand ebonics?

Except dirk183 of course.

 

[Laurel]

Hey, hey! Rap is not all "ebonics", nor is it all gangstas, guns, & drugs. Ever heard of Will Smith? Will Smith is about as gangsta as I am, and that's not much...Like I said, buncha old white dudes mouthin' off about stuff they saw on TV...

"Rock and roll is a part of this plan (Satan's) to achieve a world-wide moral decay"
- Bob Larson, "THE DEVIL'S DIVERSION

"Things they do look awful c-c-cold
I hope I die before I get old"
- The Who

Ambro, gimme a call on our hotline. I miss the crank calls that only you can give me...

 

[Desert Amazon]

 

[Thomas Paine]

The same thing can be said of almost any genre of popular music. County music, for example, is now the province of telegenic non-entities in big hats and tight jeans, while Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard can't get on the radio. Rock music, too. How many Bruce Springsteens or Bob Dylans aren't getting record deals because all that sells is Britney Spears and N'Sync? So, it ain't just rap and black artists.

BTW, Desert Amazon, last I looked, Dr. John wasn't black. *g*

 

[TigerClaw]

.....

 

[Desert Amazon]

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Words don't kill people...

You gotta know what the enemy thinks.

If Rob Zombie had been around for disco, he'd still be king, rock & roll would be dead, rap would be nada, but once again

I was in the right place,
but it must have been da wrong time...