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sirsemega

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Posted this in story feedback but I think this is a better place:

---edited this thanks to meg1-----
Beginning of my story:

That moment when I saw her changed all our lives forever. It had taken me a few days to piece together little snippets of talk that Andrew, my son had said over the dinner table as we ate our meals before the confused and troubled boy ran next door to continue “playing” with his best friend Jake.

The questions a twelve year old boy asked while we ate our meals where on subjects that no child should be asking.
“What is a clitoris?”
“How can pain be enjoyable?”
“Why are all girls whores?”
Ginny, my wife’s face dropped each time he asked a question. I asked him where he heard these things and he just muttered, “Around.”
After he would be excused, Ginny and I would talk about the disturbing turn in topics that our son was interested in. A few times I wondered if his friend next door, Jake was filling his head with these things.

Jake was the same age as Andrew, and as far as we could tell, he was a good innocent boy just like Andrew. That summer, the two of them had been inseparable, riding their bikes together, going to the park and fishing at the pond together, and just hanging our together.

Jakes family seemed to be okay as well. Ginny was friendly with Gertrude, Jakes mother and I waved to Fred each time I saw him outside. Jake had an older brother named Jeff, who I suspected was the one who was putting these thoughts into Andrew’s head, but wasn’t sure how to address the issue, short of banning Andrew from seeing his best friend all summer long.

Gertrude’s niece was staying with them. Her name was Melanie. Her parents had died in an accident a few months ago and Melanie came to live with Gertrude and her family. Melanie was a small blonde haired girl. She was (maybe eighteen?) and she always seemed sad. She had become friendly with Andrew and Jake, and had avoided Jeff as far as I could see.

As I pondered over the last meal, before Andrew had left to go over to the house next door, I wondered what his last cryptic words to me meant.
“Dad, if you had a secret and knew that it was wrong, would it be okay to break the secret, even if you got into trouble yourself?”

These words gave me pause. I kept my face straight and looked at him. He couldn’t meet my eyes.
“I think it would be your duty to break that secret if it was wrong.” I said.
I paused to let him talk. He was not forthcoming. I prodded him.
“Is there some secret you need to tell me?” I asked.

His face flushed and he shook his head no.
He quickly excused himself and asked to go next door.

Ginny and I were upset. Something was wrong.
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I'm working on a story and I'm worried. I'm thirteen pages in and am just getting to the start of the story. The first thirteen pages set up the story and background and relationships and I feel that it's important to have that backstory, actually integral, but I'm doing a hell of a lot of telling instead of showing and am afraid that people will not read that far to get to the meat of the story.

Anyone want to do a read through and give me their opinions?

The story is basically a romance as a man tries to heal a broken woman. There is some brutality in it so it is not for the faint of heart, but there is healing and love here.

P.S. I'm not sure if terms and conditions will allow me to post that the trauma happens when she was seventeen...
 
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Flashback/forward

My suggestion would be to spice it up by using flashbacks/flashforwards. Also, maybe start from the middle of the story, from a more exciting point, and tell the previous stuff through implication, flashback, dialogue, offhanded comments, vague references, memories, etc.

Basically... remember that just because events happen linearly, doesn't mean stories must or should be told that way. Keep your story exactly the way it is, but verbs have tenses (past, past perfect) that let you present things out of order.

Also remember that you don't have to come out and say exactly everything. Some things are better left just implied, and left to the reader's imagination.

Lastly... prune it. There must be a lot of fluff in there that isn't really relevant to the core of the story. Just because you can write it, doesn't mean the words should stay there. Cut, cut, cut. Identify the core of your story, and stay true to it. Extraneous thoughts and images should add depth and flesh it out, not drag it down.

It's hard work, but it's rewarding. It's real writing.

If you want to PM the story to me, I'll be happy to glance at it and make suggestions, but I don't have much free time right now.
 
Thanks, I'll respect the fact that you don't have time, perhaps someone out here does?

I have thought about doing flashbacks, but the nature of the story is rather a tough subject. I admit that this is a first draft so unlike many of my other stories I think this one will need extensive revision.

I'm just torn, a part of my wants to cut cut cut, but I feel that I am being too brief with the back story as it is and I hesitate just telling everything rather than showing...

Anyone else willing to take a look?
 
sirsemega,

I'm not sure if you know, but it takes approximately 3,000 words to make one literotica page. So rather than look at how many pages you are into it, check your word count. Thirteen pages should really be something close to two literotica pages, and that really isn't all that much.

There are many people here who use at least that much space for background and build up. I don't think you are in as much trouble as you think you are.

The question shouldn't be, "Does it have enough sex fast enough?" The question should be, "Do these first 6,000 words catch the readers' attention?"

Also, there are some editor's here who are very particular about what kind of stories they take. So if you would add which category you want to submit the story, you are more likely to catch someone's eye.

Just to help you be less frustrated. There are people here who will take an excerpt and edit that for you and either pm it to you or post it here, so that you can see the kind of work they do. That way you can have an idea of who is offering to work with you.

I suggest posting the first few paragraphs because that way in addition to getting editorial help, people will tell you whether you caught their interest to read the rest of your story.

I hope this helps you. Good luck.
meg
 
... The questions a twelve year old boy asked while we ate our meals where on subjects that no child should be asking.
“What is a clitoris?”
“How can pain be enjoyable?” ...
I suspect that the Literotica censors will take one look at a 12-y-o using the word "clitoris" and reject it out of hand for underage.

... it takes approximately 3,000 words to make one literotica page ...
According to Weird Harold (who knows everything) the average is about 3,750.
 
I suspect that the Literotica censors will take one look at a 12-y-o using the word "clitoris" and reject it out of hand for underage.

I have to agree with snooper here. It's hard to get anything underaged through the censors. In addition, my thoughts on it are, Literotica has very few rules, and they really fight for their members' right to freedom of speech. They are bound by those rules through the laws of several countries. The least we can do it follow the few rules to have set up.

According to Weird Harold (who knows everything) the average is about 3,750.

I think he knows everything as well. Very intelligent man. I never paid attention that closely, I just knew it was somewhere around there.
 
Consenting Adults Swingers Only, for edit PM me

I agree with Meg. If you want to write about underage take it to Nifty. If you have good group sex TABOO with over 21 in laws and swapping partners, I'll edit. turnaround usually 1 day.

Extra good stories, I will send the author a plane ticket to come edit with me in the nude.
We'll take it from there...............
-Betterwood on Lit
 
Well there are no scenes with underage childen having sex. It is aluded to as that is traumatic event that's central to the story.
The story is what happens after an event like this takes place.
 
i'm not saying it CAN'T be accepted, i just think you will have a problem with that.

i have a writer that wrote a story where a girl was mistaken for being a teenager, but then it was found out that she was an adult of like 21 yrs of age. the censors shot that story back and he's resubmitted it, pointing out exactly where her age was clarified. i don't know yet whether the story will make it this time.

most writers (especially long time writers) will tell you that "alluding" do underage events is no better than writing about them. the fact of the matter is, literotica can be sued and/or shut down if they bend the rules they have. these are not grey areas, they are black and white. no: under aged sex, no: beastiality

the only grey area here is rape. they do not have an actual "rape" category nor do they have a "rape" tag. they have non-consent and reluctance where the woman may not be eager, but finally starts to enjoy it type of thing. it really depends on the category it goes in and how the scene is written as to how much violence and force are accepted.

no one is telling you not to write the story. only the literotica editors/censors can reject a story. none of us are lit censors. we are just trying to guide you so that your story has the best chance of being accepted on the first try, so it's less frustrating for you.

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This is copied from the sticky at the top of the editor's forum by KillerMuffin "Rejected, what now?"

Was there an underage (under 18 years old) sexual relationship in my story?

This is non-negotiable and has more to do with persons like John Ashcroft than an unrealistic view that teenagers don't have sex. A character can refer sex at an early age (eg I lost my cherry at 14), but cannot describe it.

If your story comes across as pedophilia, it will probably be rejected.

Make sure that your characters are over 18 or at least a senior in high school to fix the problem.
 
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