I must confess...

elsol

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I'm prejudiced... it's taken many years to see this but tonight I came face to face with my prejudice.

I hate, unreasonably and irrationally, incompetent people.

I have always believed that being competent was a curse, but I admit that was just the first sign of my bigotry. The truth is that I want all incompetent people lined up outside so I can do a drive-by with a 50 caliber mounted to my Volkswagen Bug.

*sigh*

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
I share your bigotry, then.

And so do my children. Witness my 1st grade son, fuming because some ignorant fool was obstructing our progress (and that of many others) in traffic a couple of days ago.

My son called him a pinhead, bless his little heart.

:cool:
 
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LOL, bless your son!

I think you're justified in this bigotry - not just because I share it. :)

It's quickly becoming clear to me that common sense is really rare and incompetence really is rampant.
 
jacuzzigal said:
It's quickly becoming clear to me that common sense is really rare and incompetence really is rampant.

That's the biggest problem I'm having... the lack of common sense.

The thing that brought it this issue to the front was that I needed to do an upgrade on a set of machines of a specific OS... in my request email, I said I need to replace the daemon on all machines of this OS for example X's and Y's.

A fucking admin (and I use the term loosely) has an entire group of machines that use the OS... but he only gave me access to X's and Y's.

I had to send him an email listing out EVERY machine he's responsible for that he needed to give me access to... I've been asking for access for two weeks.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
elsol said:
I had to send him an email listing out EVERY machine he's responsible for that he needed to give me access to... I've been asking for access for two weeks.

Count your blessings. Or rather: just wait, the day will come when you will wish that all you had to do was detail out a request.

I had a situation where I needed to run a data repair script (fully tested, self backing up, restartable...). I go to the sysadmin to either run it or give me the sys permissions to, and he says, "I'm not running that, I don't know what it's going to do." So I offer go over it with him or run it myself if he gives me access. His response, "I don't care what it does, and I'm not giving you access."

So I go back to his & my manager: It's all set, ready to go, just need Joblo to run it. His reply: "Tell Joblo that I said to run it."

I go & take this message back to Joblosysadmin, he says, "I'm not running it..."

This ping pong match goes back and forth 3 times in one week. Manager never goes over to whack Joblo over the head. I quit & move on. (Bing! problem solved.)

Similar scenarios have happened at three different clients of mine over the years. (More than three times--it's always the big companies.)

It's amazing how many problems are solved by just leaving, and leaving the idiots alone to rule their little domains.
 
Op_Cit said:
I go & take this message back to Joblosysadmin, he says, "I'm not running it..."

This ping pong match goes back and forth 3 times in one week. Manager never goes over to whack Joblo over the head. I quit & move on. (Bing! problem solved.)

There's a novel solution for that in my company... send the email in the 'clear'. Our CEO does a weekly driveby and he opens a can of whup-ass on someone based on some piece-of-shit problem he finds. There is absolutely nothing like the fear of the Hand-of-Ceo coming down wrathfully to make people do their jobs.

I've had a few people say "Don't send this in public..." and my reply, supported by my boss has been, "If you're going to prevent me from doing my job, then I want it in writing."

Reply: 'You're just trying to cover your ass.'

My reply: 'No, I'm trying to make your ass more tempting than mine! There's a difference.'


Sincerely,
ElSol
 
elsol said:
I'm prejudiced... it's taken many years to see this but tonight I came face to face with my prejudice.

I hate, unreasonably and irrationally, incompetent people.

I have always believed that being competent was a curse, but I admit that was just the first sign of my bigotry. The truth is that I want all incompetent people lined up outside so I can do a drive-by with a 50 caliber mounted to my Volkswagen Bug.

*sigh*

Sincerely,
ElSol
So, would the second sign of incompetence be those who don't know the differerence between .50 caliber and fifty caliber? Because that's a factor of a hundred or so ... otherwise, you're shooting shells that are the size of Campbell's soup cans (caliber = the diameter of a bore of a gun usually expressed in hundredths or thousandths of an inch and typically written as a decimal fraction).

Yeah, I hate incompetent stupidity too.
 
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Seattle Zack said:
So, would the second sign of incompetence be those who don't know the differerence between .50 caliber and fifty caliber? Because that's a factor of a hundred or so ... otherwise, you're shooting shells that are the size of Campbell's soup cans (caliber = the diameter of a bore of a gun usually expressed in hundredths or thousandths of an inch and typically written as a decimal fraction).

Yeah, I hate incompetent stupidity too.

I know the difference, at least I think the three years spent in olive drab as a grunt were good for something other than to pay for my college education, even if at the time getting to blow shit up seemed like a reward all in itself.

But if we're going to be picky... then my first choice would be a nuke since it always gets the job done and has the added benefit of getting rid of any other unsavory types that happen to be in the neighborhood.


Sincerely,
ElSol
 
Incompetency, like all things, is simply a matter of perspective.

To the admin, you're the incompetent one for not following proper protocol. You said machines of types X and Y and now you're over stepping your bounds by including all machines with that OS.

Protocol, as we know, is the only thing standing between us and utter chaos! :p

Shrugs. I try not to get upset about other people's shortcomings. I did once and my inability to do anything about it drove me insane. I was such a typical Westerner, believing that nothing was beyond my power.

Now I know better. Incompetency is like weather. Always there, can't be changed, and I just have to live with it.
 
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all in all, I'm just going to go ahead and call you as an incompetent Americanised moron.

yes, I know, yes, I do- this whole time you thought it of everyone else and now someone is calling you incompetent.

see, I prejudged you- and in comparrison to myself- you have a fucked up mind. wanting to hurt those who need help the most... :rolleyes: hello, you can't even accurately prejudge...

some serious incompetence to relative thinkers.
 
rgraham666 said:
Incompetency, like all things, is simply a matter of perspective.

To the admin, you're the incompetent one for not following proper protocol. You said machines of types X and Y and now you're over stepping your bounds by including all machines with that OS.

Ah, if it were only that simple... I could sit back and lament at the problems of corporate america while collecting my paycheck.

Out 5 admins only this one did the wrong thing, and it wouldn't actually be a problem since I'm suppossed to have access to ALL production machines but said admin built the machines without following 'proper protocol'.

So for the last two weeks, I've been trying to get him to do the work he was suppossed to have done when he built the machines in the first place.

And sadly enough... he once did my job so he knows we're suppossed to have access for the very reason that I'm asking him to give me access for.

I wonder if its a requirement of corporate america to forget the job you used to do when you get a promotion.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
Brinnie said:
wanna know a secret?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Britney_Spears/exciting.png

the mind it a logical tool that proccesses relative information to determine your choices. (better your survival.) All it does is prejudge. prejudge, prejudge, prejudge.

Amazing how people are 'waking up' to discover this 'new information'- after all, it was only written 100 years ago by one: Albert Einsteinhttp://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Albert-Einstein-Theory-Relativity.htm :rolleyes:

I'm guessing that you don't actually want to get into a discussion on relativism from as pure example of a relativist as you're going to find outside of the white tower.

But as a relativist, I have to consider that when a preponderance of available positions at work make me look like an idiot... relative to my boss's position, I might be more useful to the company unemployed.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
jeanne_d_artois said:
I'm still praying for Brinnie.

Is it working?

Rev. jeanne_d_artois

Dunno if prayer is working, but having her on 'ignore' is awesome. :p

VA
 
elsol said:
I'm guessing that you don't actually want to get into a discussion on relativism from as pure example of a relativist as you're going to find outside of the white tower.

But as a relativist, I have to consider that when a preponderance of available positions at work make me look like an idiot... relative to my boss's position, I might be more useful to the company unemployed.

Sincerely,
ElSol


Sincerely,
ElSol :rolleyes:
 
SweetVA said:
Dunno if prayer is working, but having her on 'ignore' is awesome. :p

VA

Oh come on Sweet VA! She's far too entertaining to be put on ignore. I haven't laughed this much at logical manglings and self-contradiction since Amicus tried to debate the value of the NHS.

The Earl
 
TheEarl said:
Oh come on Sweet VA! She's far too entertaining to be put on ignore. I haven't laughed this much at logical manglings and self-contradiction since Amicus tried to debate the value of the NHS.

The Earl

Take any philosophy class in a predominantly liberal college, take enough of them and the words "But in the Star Wars universe..." will bring a spark of joy to your day.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
TheEarl said:
Oh come on Sweet VA! She's far too entertaining to be put on ignore. I haven't laughed this much at logical manglings and self-contradiction since Amicus tried to debate the value of the NHS.

The Earl


Laughing -
 
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