I know I will regret this..................

[@}-}rebecca----]

I know I will regret this but ..................

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/Insannnnnnnnnnnne.jpg

Okay now I am aware there is a goal to be trying to be seen to do the the PC thing . Accept/respect each others Kink etc. Though when I see pictures like these above I just have to laugh......Not just a twitter I am talking SPEW ALERT ........new phrase I learnt since visiting the Forum.... Firstly my apologies in advance if its your deepest desire is to be your SO's 'Chevy trailer' on the weekends or from a Dom/Tops point of view your one as 'Sprinkler Girl' brings you all over in goose bumps. I don't know........I also wonder at times if we all aren't a little bit victims of rather clever commercial marketing and or fall pray to our own 'BDSM urban legends' . I am not saying they exist , I genuinely do not know, what I would however is to know what others think about these things.

Kind regards

@}-}rebecca----

Yes some of this post contains humor, yes some of this post is quite serious/sincere . Impossible for me to 'divorce' the two, thats just me sometimes....​

 

[RJMasters]

Ok from the humor side of things:

I think the sprinkler thing takes water sports to a new level I did not think possible till I saw this pic.

And the two kneeling and tied to the bumper reminds me of them trucks that advertise BBQs tailgate parties on the weekends.

From the serious side of things...I would say that if those who are involved in doing this find satisfaction through it, then I can smile and say kink on.

Riding on the back of a bumper even if tied could be a bit dangerious. And a few key roll bars should be added to the trailer or tractor pull thing to ensure if a turn is taken to quickly and it flips, there will be some protect by the roll bars instead of having their head mashed into the ground and dragged along.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Those pics have been on the net for at least the last couple of years, along with many other ideas. Isn't at the top of my list of things I must do, but also doesn't space me out either as I think I can get the mindset behind them and why they appeal, very much so on an objectification and/or service level...and of course there is the fetish aspect. Safety is not that great in some, but then I also imagine these pics in particular are more for the gratification of the subscribers to porn sites more so than an actual popular practice in everyday lives, and that they don't give the impression of driving at high speed. Not to say some people wouldn't try it, and I have seen pics of some who have, but then many of the things we do stray from the promoted safety boundaries. The suspension pic is really not that out there or unusual either....you will even find subs who serve as art pieces, ashtrays, furniture etc., in real life.

Catalina

 

[alice_underneath]

what I would however is to know what others think about these things.

To be honest, I find these photos disturbing. They do not arouse or make me laugh; just the opposite is true.

Obviously, that reaction stems more from a personal aversion to humiliation and objectification than anything else.

I would add, however, that the photographs reflect a trend in American culture in general that I find unfortunate. Specifically, a tendency to eschew subtlety and finesse in favor of the obvious, the outrageous, and the extreme.

Alice

 

[catalina_francisco]

To be honest, I find these photos disturbing. They do not arouse or make me laugh; just the opposite is true.

Obviously, that reaction stems more from a personal aversion to humiliation and objectification than anything else.

I would add, however, that the photographs reflect a trend in American culture in general that I find unfortunate. Specifically, a tendency to eschew subtlety and finesse in favor of the obvious, the outrageous, and the extreme.

Alice

It's simply subjective to taste....some people think using a bullwhip is over the top, or drawing blood through whipping or flogging (or other activities), while to someone like us it is not over the top, it is what we love to do in private. Guess for me it equates to my mother's view of my art.....she loves it, she thinks I am extremely talented and wasting my life not doing more artistically, but she can never resist saying 'but if you just put clothes on them I think it would be just as nice'.....hmmm, no, it would be a totally different picture and a totally different mindset and mood.

Catalina

 

[Evil_Geoff]

I'm with RJ on this one...

Kink on!
*LOL*

Thanks for the chuckles rebecca.

Now if I could ony afford a big-ass SUV or lawn tractor....

 

[alice_underneath]

It's simply subjective to taste....

Of course!

Stand in any gallery in the world, and you'll hear different people (viewing the exact same painting) saying things like:

"How trite."

"How exquisite!"

"I could gaze at this all day."

"When's lunch?"

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

From the serious side of things...I would say that if those who are involved in doing this find satisfaction through it, then I can smile and say kink on.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/Kinkon.jpg
​

Riding on the back of a bumper even if tied could be a bit dangerious. And a few key roll bars should be added to the trailer or tractor pull thing to ensure if a turn is taken to quickly and it flips, there will be some protect by the roll bars instead of having their head mashed into the ground and dragged along.

Thank You Mr RJMasters for pointing out these valid safety issues. I myself from a fashion aspect alone would have prefered to have seen sunglasses on all these girls however, now you have drawn my attention to the abovementioned I think kink occupational health & safety eyewear would be most appropriate.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

I also imagine these pics in particular are more for the gratification of the subscribers to porn sites more so than an actual popular practice in everyday lives

Frankly I couldn't agree more catalina though I abhore the use of the word 'porn' I always refer to such perusings as 'research'.

The suspension pic is really not that out there or unusual either

Yes once again totally agree however the addition of the lamp shade and electricity etc would have to make the rigging somewhat more intricate one would imagine. One thing I would really like to know and have not been able to ascertain from even Nawashi sites is what would be considered an average safe time frame for suspension ? Even with variables of height , weight etc .............

....you will even find subs who serve as art pieces, ashtrays, furniture etc., in real life.
Catalina

Been there, done that and bought the Tshirt .

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

To be honest, I find these photos disturbing. They do not arouse or make me laugh; just the opposite is true.

Hiya Miss Alice, I can certainly see your point as well. Arousal was never a contention for me personally when I posted these pictures. I can also certainly have empathy why anyone might find them disturbing. To me they represent a surreal application of some BDSM pursuits by a Company endeavouring to market off the back of genuine by some within the BDSM Community. The point that amuses me so is that they don't seem to get 'the point'. Which brings me to another comment by yourself

I would add, however, that the photographs reflect a trend in American culture in general that I find unfortunate. Specifically, a tendency to eschew subtlety and finesse in favor of the obvious, the outrageous, and the extreme.

Being Australian myself and having an ongoing passion for the USA as with many other wonderful Countries I have had the priviledge of exploring over the years ,yet not being a citizen I will agree with your comment Alice but in a more general Global Nature. Its a 'trend' I expect to see become more entrenched in society in general however.

Obviously, that reaction stems more from a personal aversion to humiliation and objectification than anything else.

Well Miss Alice ............even though you have no actual BDSM experience as you are apt to state being a woman certainly gives you pause to make that comment.........smiles

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

I'm with RJ on this one...

Kink on!
*LOL*

Thanks for the chuckles rebecca.

Now if I could ony afford a big-ass SUV or lawn tractor....

Ohh hello Evil Geoff Sir.........now if you were to partake in any of these pursuits
I think I would seriously have to pull up a lawn chair, grab a 'coldy', flip on the shades and smile...................

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

"When's lunch?"

craving sushi here currently how about you ?

 

[alice_underneath]

I myself from a fashion aspect alone would have prefered to have seen sunglasses on all these girls

OK, now THAT needed a spew alert, Miss Rebecca!

Obviously, that reaction stems more from a personal aversion to humiliation and objectification than anything else.

Well Miss Alice ............even though you have no actual BDSM experience as you are apt to state being a woman certainly gives you pause to make that comment.........smiles

Actually, there has been quite a bit of BDSM going on in my head lately. (Well, it's more like the subset: D/s.) And for some strange reason, none of it involves humiliation or objectification of any kind. Go figure!

Yes, yes, I know, folks. What goes on in my head isn't real. But the good news for me is that there's nobody in my head inconsiderate enough to point that out! So it really doesn't matter, if you think about it!

By the way, Miss Rebecca, it occurs to me that a person's reaction to art can be quite revealing. Consider the comments on this thread.....

The response from Mr. Masters contains humor, an appreciation for kink, and a strong urge to protect all involved.

Catalina's response is: Ho, hum. Yeah, yeah. I've seen this type of stuff before.

My response may perhaps be described best as polite vanilla shock.

Mr. Geoff's reaction displays an exuberant zest for kink.

But is any of this really surprising? And.... oh, btw..... is anyone else expecting Fury to show up and describe what she wants to do with a strapon and that girl on the sprinkler???

Alice

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Ohh hello Evil Geoff Sir.........now if you were to partake in any of these pursuits
I think I would seriously have to pull up a lawn chair, grab a 'coldy', flip on the shades and smile...................

Now what makes you think that if you were close enough to observe... that you would be far enough away to _just_ observe, hmmm?

*evil grin*

 

[FurryFury]

<snip>But is any of this really surprising? And.... oh, btw..... is anyone else expecting Fury to show up and describe what she wants to do with a strapon and that girl on the sprinkler???

Alice

I'm sorry to disappoint but I'm not the slightest bit turned on by any of the ladies in those pictures. They look like strange objects and not like people at all. They don't resemble warm flesh and blood. Therefore they do nothing for me.

I might possibly be turned on being one of them but I can't say without a closer personal experience.

As for a strap on and that girl, the angle really has to be right for that. One would have to experiment. Also if the sprinkler were actually sprinkling, (and one wonders just what it might sprinkle btw, *c*) one would need a platform that remained either behind or in front of her and moved when the sprinkler did. I would certainly become motion sick from such a thing. There was a time in my youth when motion sickness was not a problem, sadly, it is a concern now.

So, sorry to not live up to my rep or someone's vision of me, then again, it's best not to be too predictable perhaps?

Fury

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Now what makes you think that if you were close enough to observe... that you would be far enough away to _just_ observe, hmmm?

*evil grin*

Oh my !!!!!! You just gotta an Evil Dom Sir
laughing my... my...... my....... well I am just laughing okay​

 

[Purple Sage]

I can't see the pics for some reason, but I'm pretty sure from the descriptions that I've seen them around. Part of it's about objectification, which isn't everyone's kink, certainly, but part of it's about helplessness and submission, which seems to me to be fairly core elements of BDSM. It doesn't have to be sexy per se- the key aspect is that the girls are doing whatever dumbass thing their Top has in his twisted little mind. In my experience, making a sub do something completely arbitrary and meaningless can be quite hot, even when the thing itself isn't.

 

[DVS]

...Been there, done that and bought the Tshirt .

Don't you think they should at least GIVE you the Tshirt? It's yet another humiliation that you are forced to purchase it.

 

[alice_underneath]

I'm sorry to disappoint but I'm not the slightest bit turned on by any of the ladies in those pictures.

Hi, Fury.

My comment was an attempt at humor - affectionate teasing, if you will. I sincerely hope I did not offend you. As far as I can tell, most people here delight in your creativity, your imagination, and your penchant for sharing. I know I certainly do.

They look like strange objects and not like people at all. They don't resemble warm flesh and blood.

I agree completely, which is why I considered the photos to be not just disturbing, but "extreme" as well.

Alice

 

[brioche]

Hi, Fury.

My comment was an attempt at humor - affectionate teasing, if you will. I sincerely hope I did not offend you. As far as I can tell, most people here delight in your creativity, your imagination, and your penchant for sharing. I know I certainly do.

I agree completely, which is why I considered the photos to be not just disturbing, but "extreme" as well.

Alice

I think the trailer one's kind of stupid. All it takes is one pebble kicked up into her face and she loses an eye.

 

[alice_underneath]

I think the trailer one's kind of stupid. All it takes is one pebble kicked up into her face and she loses an eye.

Good point! I find myself hoping that Catalina was right, that these photos were just staged "for the gratification of the subscribers to porn sites".

Btw, thank you for you kind comment to me several days ago on another thread. I appreciated it very much.

Alice

 

[brioche]

Good point! I find myself hoping that Catalina was right, that these photos were just staged "for the gratification of the subscribers to porn sites".

Btw, thank you for you kind comment to me several days ago on another thread. I appreciated it very much.

Alice

I certainly hope so.

You are most certainly welcome.

 

[alice_underneath]

I can't see the pics for some reason, but I'm pretty sure from the descriptions that I've seen them around.

Near the top left of your screen, you should see a link to "User CP". Once there, click on "Edit Options". Then scroll down to "Thread Display Options", one of which is "Visible Post Elements". Is "Show Images" checked? If not, that could be your problem.

Part of it's about objectification, which isn't everyone's kink, certainly, but part of it's about helplessness and submission, which seems to me to be fairly core elements of BDSM. It doesn't have to be sexy per se- the key aspect is that the girls are doing whatever dumbass thing their Top has in his twisted little mind. In my experience, making a sub do something completely arbitrary and meaningless can be quite hot, even when the thing itself isn't.

While I, personally, consider objectification to be disturbing, I find the concepts of "helplessness and submission" to be quite erotic. I also understand the sense of fulfillment that comes from pleasing your mate. So your comments give me a lot to contemplate regarding what's really going on in the assignment of "arbitrary and meaningless" things to do.

I have a few questions for the PYLs here. What makes the assignment of a seemingly arbitrary task hot for you, as the PYL? Would it be enough if the sub, herself, had never performed this particular type of act? Or, would you need to concoct a scenario that was new & unusual for you?

In contemplating arbitrary things to tell your sub to do, are you challenging her, or are you challenging your own creativity?

Or are you just in the mood to do something goofy, and expecting her to play along?

 

[Purple Sage]

Near the top left of your screen, you should see a link to "User CP". Once there, click on "Edit Options". Then scroll down to "Thread Display Options", one of which is "Visible Post Elements". Is "Show Images" checked? If not, that could be your problem.

While I, personally, consider objectification to be disturbing, I find the concepts of "helplessness and submission" to be quite erotic. I also understand the sense of fulfillment that comes from pleasing your mate. So your comments give me a lot to contemplate regarding what's really going on in the assignment of "arbitrary and meaningless" things to do.

I have a few questions for the PYLs here. What makes the assignment of a seemingly arbitrary task hot for you, as the PYL? Would it be enough if the sub, herself, had never performed this particular type of act? Or, would you need to concoct a scenario that was new & unusual for you?

In contemplating arbitrary things to tell your sub to do, are you challenging her, or are you challenging your own creativity?

Or are you just in the mood to do something goofy, and expecting her to play along?

Thanks for the tech advise, unfortunately that isn't the problem. I think I need to reinstall my browser.

I think that assigning arbitrary and meaningless tasks has several aspects. One is that it gives an opportunity for submission per se- if the task had value in itself, the sub may do it just because it makes sense. If it has no intrinsic value, then it's a clear cut act of submission to do it- there's no other motivation. Another is that it has training value- doing this regularly reinforces a mind set of obedience. From the dominant POV both these things are hot, IMO.

For myself, it's not important that the sub has never performed the required act before- though that can be hot in itself. The significance I've mentioned above remains even when the same meaningless activities become ritualized.

I do find that 'challenging' the sub can be exciting, but there can be too much of a good thing here. Everybody needs to have some relatively comfortable places to be from time to time, and ritualized meaningless tasks can provide this while still reinforcing the whole submissive context. As for creativity- well, that's always a plus. The compulsion to do something completely novel all the time, however, is a trap.

Just being in the mood to do something goofy in no way interferes with the rest of what I've been saying.

 

[rosco rathbone]

It reminds me of various scenes from The Road Warrior.